HPE-112Y UPGRADE HELP..PLEASE
VT637AA-ABA-HPE-112Y amd phenom II X4 925 processor, 920gb, 8gb ram, ati radeon 4350 (512mb dedicated), bluray drive and recordable dvd/cd drive..
I am trying to speed up my desktop for surfing the web and running CyberLink PowerDirector 13. Powerdirector (10, 11, or 12) never seemed to work well with this desktop for some reason and after running the program the pc seemed much slower until reboot. Ive heard on cyberlink forum the radeon 4350 can have issues w/program compatibility and was instructed by cyberlink to rollback driver last year (if that matters?). even though I've tried saving memory via external hd, defragmenting, etc. The PC now is running extremely slow changing pages on the Internet as well. Its not the net, my laptop works great. I have windows 7 premium and run 2 28"Asus HD monitors (only one hdmi port on pc, the other through hdmi adaptor) and am getting ready to do a destructive reload to just to clear everything before possibly upgrading. I was thinking of upgrading either the RAM and or the video graphics card to give it the best performance. These seem to be the lowest scores on the windows performance tool (if it helps scores were 7.2, 7.5, 4., 5.9, 5.9)...processor Ram graphics gaming graphics and primary hard disk (534gb avail out of 920gb).
Ive never gamed and use it primarily for business and family video editing occasionally.
that's about all I can think of to say I tried to be as detailed as possible. feel free to give me recommendations on what video card to upgrade to, if I should upgrade from 8 gb ram to 16 gb ram (which is possible for the system and windows 7 premium), and/or do nothing if these upgrades wont affect performance noticeably. I think i read the ram is currently 2gbx4slots..so id probably have to replace all of it i think???
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Skip the ram upgrade as your W7 performance numbers are plenty good. Hold off on the video card upgrade until you can ascertain where the issue resides.
Your problems could be any one or more of the following:
Hardware issues --- run some diagnostics - reseat the ram and video card
ISP issues -- have the ISP conduct a loop test and then run your own download/upload performance test
Software issues -- reload the system
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My migration from System 9 to to 10 on my iMac was a total disaster, even as I had compltely mapped out the change. I don't want this to happen again. I have read many useful helps in these forums and are now trying to put together, hopefully, a good plan of implementation.
At this time, I have repaire permissions using Cocktail, updated all other items using Mac Janitor and am in the process of saving certain folders & files to a DVD.
I am most concerned about, after the upgrade:
1. If my Airport connection will still operate or do I need to save additional settings.
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I've been a Mac user for years, it just seems that as more is added to these software update, you have to increase your learning curve by quite a bit.
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I have a few questions about upgrading the G3 if anyone would be willing to help.
First of all, I must tell you that I am new to the apple world, having been for most of my life a PC/windows user.
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I was given a beige G3 desktop by a friend who had upgraded to the G5. I decided to use the G3 as a web browser and general 'lifestyle' computer as I use my PC for business.
However the G3 was a little old and outdated as it was for my needs.
G3 266MHz
256MB RAM
6 MB VRAM
6GB HDD
Mac OS 8.6
I couldn't even get it online as the modem cable had been lost long ago (it had been connected to my friends office network)
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I did a bit of research and found out that OSX can connect to a windows network so I set about getting a copy of jaguar.
Once I got hold of a copy of jaguar (from applerescue £28 inc delivery)
I installed it without a problem and connected to my windows network allowing me to utilise my existing broadband connection.
Excellent, thought I, but why stop there.
I have built and upgraded many pc's in my time and I had a few components hanging around. Will they work in the G3?
One way to find out.
The first problem I encountered was one of cables and space. As you all probably know the beige G3 does not have much room inside for extras.
I also found that the desktop case was not suited to the environment. It took up way too much space on my desk. I couldn't put the monitor on top of it as it is a big heavy 20inch crt (my friend is a graphic designer) and there is a shelf over my desk that prevents it. However there was a space under my desk which the case would fit in perfectly, if only it was on its side.
Merely putting the case on its side didn't help. The design of the case meant that the thing kept falling over. The cds would fall out too and I had no idea what damage it would do in the long term.
So, junior hacksaw and drill in hand, I set about a major conversion.
A day later I had sucessfully ripped all the components from the G3 case and fitted them in a standard ATX PC case. Now it fits under my desk perfectly.
I fitted the original apple PSU inside the case and fitted the ATX PSU on top.
I spent a little money online and got a 1GHz G3 upgrade from OWC.
(A brief word about OWC. Ordered Sunday evening, package delivered with no VAT or customs charges on Wednesday! Better delivery than a UK vendor and loads cheaper too!)
I used some PC100 RAM I had lying around from a previous PC build.
Standard crucial 184pin SDRAM. Worked no problem. I ordered an extra stick of RAM along with the CPU upgrade.
So I now have a G3 in a ATX tower case.
1GHz G3 CPU
768 MB RAM
Original 6 GB hard drive
Extra 17GB hard drive
Mac OS X
Loads of extra room inside for extras.
I run the hard drives and the motherboard plus a heatsink/fan on the CPU from the apple PSU and the optical drives and a few extra fans from the second PSU.
Sorry that was a long read but I tend to get carried away when I am talking about computers.
Here are some problems I am having which I hope you kind, clever people can help me with.
1. I have a missing hard drive.
I have two ATA hard drives on the internal IDE channel 0 which work fine-ish (see question 2)
I have the original apple CDROM as master on internal IDE 1 and a small 1GB hard drive as slave on internal IDE 1. The small hard drive doesn't show up on the desktop. I can see the drive in disk utility but I can't do anything with it. It is not greyed out but any erasing or partioning gets so far then just stops. However, opening disk utility during installation doesn't have the same problems. I can erase and partition the drive and it shows up with the second listing under the name of the disk. Once OS X is installed it shows up on the desktop perfectly functioning. Once I have restarted it is gone again.
I read somwhere that having a hard drive and CDROM on the same IDE channel can cause problems, is this what is happening here?
I have a yamaha CDRW on the internal SCSI bus, if I use that as my CD drive and remove the CDROM from the IDE channel will that help (I'll try that anyway)
2. The original apple hard drive works so much better than the extra drive I fitted. I installed a 17GB drive as master and have installed OS X on it but it is so slow. I know the drive is 4600rpm but I can't believe how much faster the apple hard drive is. I have installed OS X on both drives and the difference is stunning. With OSX installed on my 17GB drive it takes just over 14 minutes to boot up, with OSX installed on the apple 6GB drive it is more like 2 minutes. I know that the 17GB drive is old and slow but that is a big difference. Could it be a driver problem?
I have looked around online for drivers for the hard drive but, as I said before, being new to the apple side of computers I don't really know where to start looking.
3. I have installed an unsupported USB card. It seems to work fine. Everytime I boot up I get a message saying:
'over current warning - the usb device installed is drawing too much power, the hub it is attached to will be disabled.'
I click okay but the thing still works!
I have a wireless mouse plugged into it and it works fine even though it has been disabled.
Is this going to explode?
The words 'over current' sound scary.
4. Harking back to question 1. If I disconnect the CDROM on the internal channel to enable me to use my third hard drive, will I be able to boot from the SCSI CDRW?
5. Can anyone suggest a good system monitoring program? As mentioned I bought a CPU upgrade and I am a little suspicious about it. I want to know what speed it is running at. The docs that came with it say the the apple system profiler will not give the correct reading of CPU speed and I should use CPU director instead.
Call me cynical but is it possible that the CPU I bought is not what it says on the tin.
ASP says it is 333MHz and it should be 1GHz. CPU director does indeed say it is running at 1GHz but can I believe that? It is, in my opinion, possible to write a piece of software to give the wrong CPU speed thereby allowing someone to sell a 333MHz chip as a 1GHz chip and saying 'only our software can give correct readings'
I had the same thing with a broadband supplier recently. My connection was really slow for days. I ran several online speed checks to ascertain the speed. Out of the six speed checks only the suppliers own one said I was getting the connection speed I should have been, all the others gave really low speeds which reflected in the fact that it took an age for a web page to download, not something you should be getting on a 2Mbit connection.
On the phone to the suppliers customer services and they refused to take any speed check but theirs as true. I ran theirs and it always came up with the same number. 'Then your connection is working perfectly' they said. The five other speed checks and my own eyes told a different story but they wouldn't have any of it, instead telling me my PC was to blame, even going on to tell me to disable firewall and antivirus and run my PC in safe mode with no startup programs!! ********. Anyway, I want a third opinion about processor speeds so if anyone could tell me the name of a good program to do this (preferably free) I would be grateful.
Thanks for any help any of you can give me. I am learning more and more about apple hardware by the day and I am fast becoming one of the converted.
broddrHey guys,
thanks for answering so soon.
To answer the questions asked:
The motherboard is either a rev b or c. I remember checking this when I first had the idea of upgrading the cpu. I am not sure if it is a b or c but it is definately not rev a.
I think the cpu upgrade is working fine.
As Frank mentioned, it seems most of the cpu speed utilities use ASP for their information and give exactly the same speed reading.
I went a little more basic.
I ran CPU director and put the cpu speed at 333MHz and timed how long it took a few apps to open, then used CPU director to put the speed up to 1000MHz and timed the same programs again.
The speed difference was more than noticeable so from this I can only assume the CPU is running at 1GHz.
I have installed 9.2 on a seperate partition but it seems to be a weird version.
It came with a freinds G5 software for his iMac and is labelled 'additional software'
I installed it on a whim (because I am like that) and it gave me 'classic support'
I can now run classic apps in OSX and I have, on occasion, been able to boot into the 9.2 system. Only occasionally though.
Once booted into the 9.2 system there is no optical drive support and hardly any of the options I remember from OS8.6.
From this I am assuming that it is a cut down version of 9.2 bundled with new iMacs to enable users to use classic apps.
That doesn't explain why sometimes I can boot into it though.
Any of you heard of something like that.
I am planning to purchase a full copy of 9.2 when funds allow.
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The SCSI yamaha CDRW is bootable but that makes little difference as disconnecting my IDE CDROM makes no difference on whether or not I can see the third hard drive.
I do know about the 8GB partition and OSX is sitting on the first partition which is 7.95GB.
I tried using xpostfacto to get around this which kind of worked. It did allow me to put OSX on a larger partition but caused no end of problems at boot so I cleared NVRAM and erased all the hard disks and started afesh.
The 17GB hard drive is in fact 15.91 GB, sorry about that. It came in a PC I bought which was (incorrectly) labelled as having a 17GB hard drive and since then I have just called it the '17GB hard drive'.
Since I last wrote I have done a little more research on the hard drives and found that the 6GB original apple drive and the 15GB drive are both 5400rpm so that cannot be the problem.
Here is some more accurate information on the drives:
IDE 0-
Master - 15.91GB Fujitsu MPE3170AT - seems to work fine apart from the aforementioned slowness - first partition is 7.95GB with OSX installed.
Slave - 6GB Maxtor 90651U2 - works fine
IDE 1-
Master - Matshita CR57 CDROM - works fine and is bootable.
Slave - 1.19GB WDC AC21200H - this is the one I just cannot use or see.
SCSI internal - Yamaha CDRW - works fine and is bootable.
Could the problem be that I have overloaded the internal bus by having four devices on the IDE and a SCSI device?
I have since used a program called disk warrior which states that the 1GB WDC disk is of an unrecognisable format.
I have sucessfully used disk utility to zero it out but it makes no difference.
I think it may just be trashed.
The USB card is still a puzzle.
I am, right now, using a mouse plugged into the USB card which is, according to OSX, disabled.
Scratching of head.
Maybe it is still functioning because the apple PSU has lots spare to give because I have a second PSU taking a lot of the strain? I just don't know.
This whole boot time thing is puzzling to the extreme.
As I said before. I have installed OSX on the 6GB Maxtor drive and the machine starts up in under 2 minutes so I can only assume that there is no hardware problem elsewhere.
When I use the Fujitsu drive its 10 - 14 minutes. So from that it is logical to assume it is the hard drive. Maybe it has a really small cache or something. Or maybe the apple just doesn't like it much.
Once the machine is up and running it runs just fine. A few programs like entourage are a little slow to boot.
I don't know what the benchmark is as I have never used an Apple except this one.
For instance safari takes around 2 seconds for the icon to stop bouncing and about 5 seconds in total to be up and have loaded the home page. Is that about normal?
Another question I have to ask you fine fellows.
Can you move some of OSX's built in applications and utilities to a seperate partition and still have them function properly?
I would like to use the apple hard drive as the OSX installation disk but at 6GB, once I have installed the OS there ain't much room left for anything else.
I have already installed MS office and Appleworks and a few other apps to a separate partition and they work fine.
I suppose though that if I did that and the problem is slow access to the fujitsu disk, once I installed OSX to the apple disk and installed apps to the fujitsu disk I would still have problems accessing those apps.
i don't know really. I think I am going to have to take the machine apart again and experiment until I can find the problem.
Another quick question.
Could it be RAM? Surely either RAM works or it doesn't right?
My system is correctly identifying the 768megs of RAM, if there was a problem with the 512MB of PC100 RAM I installed it just wouldn't show up.
Anyway, thanks for all your help so far,
I think I am going to save some cash and buy a new Apple machine - any suggestions which?
Broddr.
Beige G3 Desktop Mac OS X (10.2.x)
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