HR BW Data Model - Design & Delta Possibility

Dear All,
In our SAP BW HR Implementation - we have to do a full load everyday for PA, OM, TA, PY streams. and it is very time consuming.
fyi - we are using generic extractors.
Questions -
1. We would like to know if it is possible to swtich to DELTA. If yes, how!
2. Also any idea on the data modelling part - Like best practice for HR Data Modelling- (we are following LSA).
Crux - is to get the data loaded in time frame from 6-8Hrs from 20+Hrs it is taking currently.
Regards,
Vinay

Hi Vinay,
Have u implemented Deltas to generic extractors ? if yes, can you please share your in puts.
As of now we would like to go for delta, but here are the challenges:
1) How to capture deletion records in ECC and update them to BI?
2) if you are extracting multiple times in day then how would you populate the TIMESTAMP in ECC as none of the info types have TIMESTAMP field

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