HReap and Mesh

We have many sites using HReap successfully and I am now setting up a site that needs Mesh for extra distance. The Mesh works fine and if i plug a device into the child it gets a dhcp and works no problem, but laptop devices cannot get a dhcp address from the APs via wireless. Im guessing this is because the wireless isnt HReap. Can you Mesh and connect wireless clients to the APs on remote sites.

Typically when using mesh, you will have a RAP that is wired into the network and a MAP that connects to the RAP. Now the newer code allows you to have a mesh ap in H-REAP mode but it does require an Ethernet connection. A MAP needs to connect back to a RAP though. This is how mesh is designed.
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if you are user FlexConnect, and are on 7.2 or better code on the WLC.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.2/configuration/guide/cg_flexconnect.html#wp1247954
If you are not using FlexConnect, which you said you weren't, the traffic doesn't get locally switched. it all is handeld at the WLC.
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Mobility between HREAP and NON HREAP does not work..

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Hi All
Just a quick rundown of what I am trying to achieve.
We have a Cisco 5508 WLC (running AIR-CT5500-K9-7-0-116-0.aes). At the moment the WLC is controlling only 1 AP (Cisco 1142N LWAP). I want this AP to be placed at a remote site, and users that authenticate via the RADIUS (MS Windows 2008 NPS) server must be assigned their respective VLANs based on the Active Directory groups they belong to (staff, student, or guest).
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Do you perhaps know if there are plans for this limitation being addressed in the near future?
We are looking to deploy wireless from end-to-end in all 6 of our sites, and you biggest competitor was penalized because they do not support this feature. It seems we're going to have to apply the same penalty in this respect to Cisco as well.
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I have seen and done installs like this. The advantage is that you don't have to worry about the backhaul dropping. So it's like any LAP but big chunky outdoor AP. If the RAP looses Ethernet connectivity... Well it changes to a MAP. So you can look at
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2106 1131AP and mesh mode

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Unfortunately, the only access point that can handle Mesh is the 1500-series. Mesh isn't meant for indoor applications like the 1131AG is meant for. Mesh is meant for city-wide deployments and wireless coverage.
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Typically when using mesh, you will have a RAP that is wired into the network and a MAP that connects to the RAP. Now the newer code allows you to have a mesh ap in H-REAP mode but it does require an Ethernet connection. A MAP needs to connect back to a RAP though. This is how mesh is designed.
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HREAP and DHCP

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Dear Forum Members I have found the below link which is great, but I was wondering if you can provide some additional info.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/ps6087/products_tech_note09186a0080736123.shtml
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Take a look at this document in order to understand what h-reap mode are you going to implement.
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for voice over wifi, here it is the guide, there are a lot of details...
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Mobility/vowlan/41dg/vowlan41dg-book.html
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