HREAP AP SSID Broadcast when ethernet down

Hi,
I've got a series of HREAP Configured AP's that are stationed on mobile carts. The AP's are powered by bricks located on the carts themselves. What I am seeing is that in cases where the cart is powered but there is no ethernet connection to the AP, the AP is still broadcasting the SSID and accepting clients -- this is obiously bad. Is there an easy way to make sure if the ethernet interface is down that we don't broadcast and accept clients?
Thanks!
Tim

I'm assuming when your ethernet port goes down that the AP's ethernet link still shows as up? When I tested this in my lab if the AP's ethernet port went down/down the SSID was not being broadcast. If the AP's ethernet port showed up the SSID was broadcast, even if there wasn't really a network connection.

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Id like to add.
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I used to be able to connect with the router just fine, 801.11g, WEP security. Recently wireless connectivity stopped working (wired ports are working just fine, with both internal network and Internet access [external]). I just got around to trying again tonight...
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Please don't take this as an arguement, but I don't understand the logic of your troubleshooting steps.
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Okay, I just have a quick question.
I have my router all set up; it's sa WRT54GS v7. Everything works, but there's one problem. I want to distinguish it from the million other 'linksys' routers, but there's a problem. I go to Wireless on the 192.168.1.1 page. When I change the SSID name, and click save changes, it doesn't give me a "Changes successful" message, and my router stops working, so I have to reset.
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Are you trying to do this SSID change wirelessly? If so, then you are probably successfully changing your SSID, then, the router is kicking you off because its new SSID does not match the "linksys" SSID that your wireless adapter is setup to use.
When making changes to your router, you should always used a computer that is wired to your router.
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The router's "web pages" are built into the router, so you do not need an Internet connection to see them.
Use Internet Explorer, it usually works.
JavaScript must be enabled.
Use a computer that is wired to the router.
In the non-working computer, temporarily turn off your software firewall.
Point your browser to 192.168.1.1 , then login to your router. Your user name should be left blank. Your password is "admin" (with no quotes), unless you changed it.
If you are using Zone Alarm, right click on the ZA icon in the system tray (lower right corner of screen) and then click "Shutdown ZoneAlarm", and see if this fixes your problem. If this does not work, try the following with Zone Alarm: Open the ZAISS control center, go to Privacy, then temporarily turn off Ad Blocking and Cookie Control, and see if that fixes your problem.
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Message Edited by toomanydonuts on 05-08-2009 04:35 AM

SSID Broadcast question

Ok, so today I thought that I would tighten my security up a little, so I turned off SSID broadcast. So everything was fine, I shut down, when I booted back up, and it would not find or connect to the network. I had to turn broadcasting back on in order to connect, how to I get this to work?
Windows Vista
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I used to recommend that "SSID Broadcast" be set to "disabled" for security reasons. However, newer cracking methods have made this old trick practically worthless. Currently, I recommend leaving "SSID Broadcast" set to "enabled". This will help your computer find and lock on to your router's signal.
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Trying to disable ssid broadcast

im trying to disable the ssid broadcast using the web page but it still keeps announcing itself. Any idea of what is wrong? i have a WRT54G2 v1 router.

How do you know that it is still announcing itself?
Many wireless adapters will continue to list (for several days) a wireless network that was previously found, but is now turned off. So just because your wireless adapter lists your SSID, does not mean that your router is still broadcasting its SSID.
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Disabling SSID broadcast sets NAT to strict for XBOX 360, even if wired to WRT160N

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Message Edited by daveyhatton on 01-26-2010 01:42 PM

You are wasting more "cycles" if you disable the broadcast because your wireless devices have to actively search your network instead of simply listening to the list of broadcast SSIDs and connect to the correct one.
If "normal folk" want to crack your network they will quickly give up if they do it manually (assuming you have a strong WPA2 passphrase set on your router). Those few attempts won't cause you problems. Your router and wireless network will far more affected by other wireless networks and interference then some failing connection attempts.
Of course, I assume here that you have changed the SSID from "linksys" to something unique. If you still use "linksys" you will probably see quite a few failing connection attempts, not intentionally but because some people had their computer configured to connect to "linksys" before and still use it or did not remove it from their list of preferred networks. And if it is still "linksys" hiding the SSID won't make a change here, too...
They provide the option because that's what people want to see and buy. It does not matter whether it is really useful or not. Marketing says you can "hide" your router and people believe it. If you take the first computer at hand and look for networks the normal way it won't list it. Great, people believe it's "invisible". Sells good. Just like people need firewalls to "stealth" their computers in the internet which neither hides their computer not makes it any more secure...
As long as marketing does not mention that a simple network sniffer will immediately show the existence of the router and very soon will also reveal the SSID... It wouldn't sell so good anymore...
Of course, the setting should not affect port forwarding and your "NAT" level. Could be a firmware bug in the WRT160N.
Message Edited by gv on 01-27-2010 07:40 PM

IPod Touch - WiFi - SSID Broadcast Works/SSID No Broadcast Doesn't Work

This is maddening in so many different ways:
I have two (2) 2nd Generation iPod Touch 8Gb products. Both are nearly identical in every way -- how they connect, OS, Library, similar Apps (but not the same all the time), etc.
iPod Touch "A" works flawlessly. No issues, no problems, no complaints
iPod Touch "B" started behaving badly by first loosing my WPA security but recognizing my home network. Strong password creation was a hassle but I got cleaver. Over time, it got worse to the point that it would not even recognize the existence of my 802.11g home network.
CAVEATS 1) We live in a rural area and on my property, not another network can be found. 2) Plenty of 2.4 Ghz stuff around including other wireless computers but... 3) This is my profession and I am flummoxed but have ideas....
FINDINGS: 1) iPod "B" works fine in the public space. All wireless networks work just fine and dandy. 2) I turn on my home network SSID BROADCAST and this iPod works fine (after being set up again). 3) Turn off SSID Broadcast and once this iPod sleeps or is turned off/on, no more network but go to any place that has a public broadcast SSID and no security and it's fine again... 4) No matter what I have and what I do, iPOD "A" works flawlessly.
WHAT I HAVE DONE: 1) made sure that I have plenty of DHCP scope -- yup. 2) Checked my leases - when connected I see perfectly valid MACs and leases without incident. 3) Check for overlapping or conflicts in IP Address allocation and MAC addresses (you never know...) - no problems there. 4) Quadruple checked "A" vs. "B" settings -- identical. 5) Dumped the entire flash and OS and started with a clean slate -- same issues with no apps, music, photos, movies -- nada... just a raw iPod like it came out of the box... same problem 6) Asked Apple to replace it as it's under warranty -- done. 7) Started testing again as a clean slate and found that it worked... replacing the iPod did the trick...
So, I "RESTORE" the iPOD to garner all the hard work that was put into it -- contacts, settings, etc. I "SYNCH" the iPOD to recover my angel's precious photos, apps, movies, music.... I return it back to it's originally desired state EXCEPT that one must completely reconfigure things like networking by hand -- OK.
It's back to normal, as desired, in the configuration we want and it WORKS!!!! Albeit... only for a day... and now we are back to where we started -- again...
iPod "A" works flawlessly and the new "B" is back to it's same old tricks --
OK - What does a restore do anyway? Is there some small pile of firmware that writes over the fresh load from OS? In order to preserve my contacts and other things a restore supports, did I uncover the super secret bug that Apple will refuse to acknowledge? Can I still say that I hate iTunes without being flamed a thousand deaths? Is there a diagnostic easter egg I can try?
And before I started this soliloquy -- I watched my functioning iPod "B" go to sleep with a working home network... only to wake her from her slumber... tuned out - with Not Connected living in her Wi-Fi field.... <sigh - simply maddening>
The only thing that sets these two apart are the nuances associated with configs that are part of the user's own personal interface desires and resident app input (contacts, calendar, etc...).
AGE

First off -- thank you all for replying and providing your insight, stories, and findings with your own iPod Touch, MAC, and iPhone WiFi fun...
You are all wonderful contributors.
Just to be clear, as others have mentioned -- this is not a feature and we should not have to tolerate it. This iPod, like the other one and yours too, once worked flawlessly and then continued to degrade to a point of not functioning according the 802.11g ieee standard. Something that has been in development for over 10 years and has been an adopted standard in consumer electronics for more than 7 years -- an eternity in this industry.
To be clear, I performed TWO ultimate resets -- completely wiping the firmware and OS of the original hardware and tested a completely wiped iPod Touch to no avail and the second "reset" was a brand new replacement -- right out of the box -- under warranty. No network resets necessary. The new iPod worked as expected without any original data loaded. Once a backup was "restored," and the iPod was synch'd with the library of choice, then the troubles started again. The networking does not restore -- you have to build a secure network from scratch. And again, the "A" iPod exhibits none of this odd behavior.
It is a testament that Apple has a problem in code when other iPods running similar OS behave the same. The reason that I mention the geeky standard above is because we should not have to broadcast our SSID for this to work -- it's an open standard, not something proprietary. We should not have to conform to "work around" solutions. And, yes, NOT broadcasting SSID is part of the entire package of sound security. I have to strongly disagree with all the nay-sayers. You don't go walking around the streets with money hanging out of your pockets or your wallet sticking out of your shirt pocket for a reason -- but I bet that you have cash on you and I can find it pretty quickly. It's why purse snatching is a crime of violence and rampant in larger cities and pick-pockets use finesse. One is easy pickings for anyone to try and the other requires tools and skills. If you don't flaunt it, the low level threat is removed.
As for strong security, the option for WEP is not an option. I use multiple levels of acceptable stronger encryption, logging, limited DHCP scopes, MAC controls at times, stateful firewall controls, and other radio tricks of the trade. My only failings is having to pander to the lowest common denominator within my home network.
Anyway, I spent a bit more time surfing and find this problem ubiquitous in 2.2.1 and forward. Something is amiss at Apple. All my Window based products work just fine (as does my Wii).
Keep those cards and letters coming folks.
AGE

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The user guide is located here:
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/consumer/bin/pdf/ActiontecMI1424WRUserManual.pdf
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In addition, where can I find a link to download the user guide that matches this router?
I wanted to email Verizon tech support to ask them this but they do not accept email questions concerning Wireless issues. They should accept email questions about any issues concerning their equipment. I tried thrie chat support a few times but it keeps saying it is unavailable even during the listed hours of operation.
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The new upgrade now turns your phone into a WIFI/MYFI hotspot and broadcasts your phones SSID to the world.
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