HT1752 Power Mac G4

I have aa G4 bought in 1999 that has been sitting for 6 years. The operating system tanked and lost the dock. Not wanting to lose the data and software loaded I left it and it has set unused. Now I a retired and want to get it running again.
What is the most advanced operating system can I load?
What problems am I getting into?

Leopard requirements/10.5.x...
    * Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor
minimum system requirements
    * 512MB of memory (I say 1.5GB for PPC at least, 2-3GB minimum for IntelMacs)
    * DVD drive for installation
    * 9GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)
Trouble is Apple no longer sells it, check eBay & such for the Retail version, not the Gray Discs...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+leopard+retail+10.5
You have to call Apple & likely ask for a Product Specialist to get it, if they still have it! Helps to tell them you have an iPad/iPhone & you can't run 10.6.
There are workarounds if the 867MHz CPU is the only hangup, (not Bus Speed)…
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/
http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html

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I have a Power Mac G4 Mac 0SX version 10.4.11
Recently, when turning on, the keyboard and mouse don't work.
Is there any way to fix this or will I have to put my Mac to rest?
Thank you.

Have you tried just unplugging and plugging them in, again?
Tried using different USB ports?
Have you tried a PRAM reset?
Shut down your Mac.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command (⌘), Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
Turn on the computer.
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Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
Release the keys.

HT2848 is it true Mac is going to retire 2005 version of the Power Mac G5 support?

How can one with a Power Mac G5 get updates when Mac expires support to this system?

Obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago. Apple has discontinued all hardware service for obsolete products with no exceptions. Service providers cannot order parts for obsolete products. These include ALL G4 models. On November 23, 2011 all G5 models were declared as 'vintage'. Obsolescence cannot be far behind.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1752?viewlocale=en_US

Power Mac G5 Dual 2.5 freezes up, Power Mac G5 Dual 2.5 freezes up

Hello
I inherited a Dual 2.5 PPC Power Mac G5 from my sister. She was having problems with it suddenly freezing up. She replaced the hard drive but that didn't fix it, and sicne she had a newer Macbook Pro she gave up on it. When I got it I replaced the video card on it with an ATI Radeon, and it seemed to run fine for a while, and then the problem returned. It seemed to have returned after I did all the Apple software upgrades on it (It's running Leopard), but that might be a coincidence. I noticed under Diagnostics on the power up test that some RAM had failed. I also noticed that it was running on 1 gb of RAM even though 2 gb were installed. I removed the faulty Ram (4 256 mb dimms) and hoped that that was the problem. Unfortunately it wasn't. I also installed a temperture reading program. It showed that CPU A is running around 80 C at times and is usually about 10C hotter than CPU B. I'm not sure though if 80C is normal for a G5 or not. I noticed that when it was unplugged that it wouldn't retain the time and date, and took a look at the battery, and sure enough it was starting to leak (but hadn't leaked on to any components). I've ordered a new bttery for it.
I ran a check with Disk Utility and found the HD was ok, but permissions were a bit messed up. Disk Utility wasn't able to fix some of the permissions, but i don't think this is the underlying problem.
I've also opened it and gave everything a thourough vacuuming and cleaning and reseated any removable parts. I took the cover off the liquid cooling unit and vacuumed out the dust. There didn;t seem to be any coolant leaks I could see.
Any suggestions on where I should go from here? I unfortuantely don't have any of the disks for it, so I can't run the AHT until I find one for it (the one for my Macbook Pro wouldn't work).
Sometimes it just freezes. Other times it freezes and the computer fans go on high. It will finally get to a point where it shows the grey multi-language restart screen (where it says to hold down the button to shut it off and the restart).
It was frustrating because on my workbench it was running fine after I switched the video card, and it didn't freeze at all. When I moved it to our computer desk though, the problems returned. Tonight it was to the point where it didn't last 5 minutes.
My thoughts are:
1. Maybe All the RAM is bad
2. Maybe the dead battery is messing it up?
3. When it is heating up with use, something is expanding and not connecting any longer.
What are your thoughts?

Hi Curtis,
I'm not sure though if 80C is normal for a G5 or not. I noticed that when it was unplugged that it wouldn't retain the time
Nope, not normal, way too hot, above 70°C... If you have any temps in the 70°C/160°F range, that's likely it.
Have you blown the dust out of everything with high pressure air?\
1. Maybe All the RAM is bad
The Memory test can really only be trusted if it finds a problem, not if it doesn't find a problem.
Memtest OS X...
http://www.memtestosx.org/joomla/index.php
Rember is a freeware GUI for the memtest ...
http://tech.kateva.org/2005/10/rember-freeware-memory-test-utility.html
If you're sure the RAM is good, try the Hair Dryer trick...
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=13240047#13240047
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15223603#15223603
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15499912#15499912
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15613068#15613068
It can show on any G5, and even many other computers & electronic devices of the period.
http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/pmg5.html
http://lowendmac.com/ppc/power-macintosh-g5.html
2. Maybe the dead battery is messing it up?
Might be time to replace the PRAM Battery, 4 years is close to their lifespan, far less if ever without AC power, & can cause strange startup problems, thoigh not once vooted as a rule...
See which one your G5 has...
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/CR2032/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/BAA36VPRAM/
3. When it is heating up with use, something is expanding and not connecting any longer.
Could be the lead free solder issue with the RAM slot, and/or the thermal paste between CPUs & heatsinks need replacing...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16223700#16223700

Power Mac 10.5.8 Cannot Eject Drives or Send Files to Trash

Hello,
I'm posting to the forum for a friend. He is using a Power Mac OSX 10.5.8 with Dual 2 GHz Power PC G5 processor. The past two months he has been having issues deleting files and ejecting drives (flash drives and external hard drives). He will move files to the trash and the animation (poof of dust) and sound will occur but the actual file is not deleted. Also, when he tries to eject any drives, an error message appears stating the drive is in use by other applications. However, no other applications besides finder are open, and when I check the task manager, none are running in the background. This error has caused one of his external hard drives to become corrupted. We recently updated the computer and after the update the permissions were messed up and we couldn't even create a new folder due to insufficient permisions. We're currently running all available first-aid commands from disk utility. If anyone knows what the issue might be, please respond.
Much appreciated, blessings.
Isabel

Hello,
Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.

Power Mac G5: A common dilemma: to upgrade or buy new

I know there are a lot of discussions on this topic going around, but everyone's needs and uses are different, so I'd appreciate any input on my situation.
I own a Dual 1.8 GHz Power Mac G5 with only 1GB RAM and a failing 160GB hard drive.
At this point, I basically only use this machine for web browsing, iTunes, and Garageband, and am running Tiger.
I had been having some major hard drive problems so I wiped my system and re-installed Tiger , importing everything from my iBookG4 (which, I recently dropped and the screen connection has failed and is unusable except for as an external hard drive in target disk mode. it is probably too expensive to fix for what its worth so I will probably try to sell it for scrap).
Anyway, everything was ok for about a week until I opened firefox and noticed all my settings and bookmarks were gone. When I restarted my computer, my music, pictures, documents, and movies folders were all unable to be located (although my applications were fine and my hard drive still showed that the space was the same). I'm not sure if I imported some problem from my iBook or if my hard drive was just messing up again, but I've decided that I either need to upgrade or get a new computer.
Basically, I am thinking about upgrading my memory, getting a new hard drive, and upgrading to leopard (mostly for time machine). Or, possibly getting a new iMac or waiting a bit and then getting a new iMac or even (gasp) a PC (highly unlikely).
I was going to get the memory from ramjet and I was thinking of only adding 1GB to make 2GB but could be persuaded of getting more but 400Mhz DDR memory is a bit more expensive than other types. As for the hard drive, I was thinking about getting a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s 320-GB Hard Drive with a 16 MB cache. I could pay $15 more for a 500GB with 32 MB cache but i really don't need the space and am unsure whether the cache will really help much. Seagates used to have a pretty good rep I thought, but now they seem to be getting mixed reviews, so I don't know.
Obviously, I am no computer expert, so any help would be great. Would it be worth it to spend between $250 and $325 to get the memory, drive, and leapord when I could maybe sell my G5 and my 23" apple cinema display (the old clear kind) and get an iMac? I could maybe get about $700 - $800 for the G5 and around $300 - $350 for the display. Will an iMac be faster than my G5 with the upgrades? I don't think I need a mac pro for my current uses.
Thanks for your help. Feel free to offer advice on what to do with my iBook too.
-rhineth

Memory: $60 for 2 x 1GB, I'd call that very affordable.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/3200DDR2GBP/
Disk drives: 2 x $69 for pair of WD Caviar 640GB
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD6400AAKS/
It is not about capacity as much as speed and quiet, cool, and how well it handles OS X. I use half the drive, other half is unformatted free space. I'd skip the Seagates. 7200.11 is current.
I expect new iMacs in '09 as they are overdue.
Hard drives you keep or put in FW case.
Current Leopard is 10.5.4 DVD but would be nice to see another DVD now with 10.5.6, $109 (Amazon, maybe less Newegg?).
iMac vs others:
http://www.macworld.com/article/133467/2008/05/imaccomparison.html
http://www.barefeats.com/harper7.html
http://www.barefeats.com/imp02.html
Sounds like three things you may not be doing or have:
SuperDuper for backups. You don't need Leopard.
Disk Warrior. Everyone, or I should say "HFS+" needs #1 disk repair utility.
Backup drives. Two backup sets you switch between, and a small "emergency" partition on one for running Disk Warrior and such.
I replace or move older drives to backup use and put new boot drive in on a yearly basis. Some new drives and memory should be all you need. A couple people even stress their system with graphics and video, and upgrading to 3 or 4 new drives revived their system so that they could hold on and wait another year.

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If you just want to share files, that can be done with Mac OS X File Sharing. It is already available in "regular" Mac OS X, and all you have to do is turn it on.
For best performance, you can attain "near Hard_Drive" speeds using Gigabit Ethernet cabling and Gigabit Ethernet Switches. Wireless in quite a bit slower.
This article discusses wiring it up:
Creating a small Ethernet network
and this article discusses configuring File Sharing:
http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/os9xnet_nfilesharing.html

I want to run hardware test on my Power Mac G5 but it isn't working.

What I tried:
I have the original install disc 1 which came with the machine in the optical drive (which is the usual one). I printed the hardware test guide which is on the disc, disconnected everything but mouse, keyboard and monitor. I tried to boot, pressing the Alt/Option key, but the "system picker" or boot menu won't show up. What happens is what somebody described as for "old world" macs: my system boots with no finder window open and without the white screen and apple logo (which usually shows up during startup).
I also tried something I found in a user manual pdf for Power Mac G5 on the apple archives: Booting and press-holding C (btw it's strange that this manual says something different than the manual on the original disc). What happens here is that my machine is booting from the original disc but it boots in Installation mode. I looked at every drop-down-menu I could find there for several times but there is definitely no hardware test, since this is thought to install Mac OS 10.4.
I also tried the Intel-way and holding D during boot, but no surprise, it only booted the first drive (like it should on a pre-Intel).
But something about this all is very strange. Yesterday night I tried all these steps above and when I was close to fall asleep in front of my monitor it suddenly worked and I made it finally into the hardware test. If I remember correctly, I was holding down the C key, but as I said a was pretty dizzy and can be mistaken. I ran hardware test once enhanced and it stopped during ram, giving me an error code I wrote down. But since I made it into the test and was so tired, I thought "lets continue tomorrow" which was my epic fail for this year, I guess. Today I repeated every step, every way I tried but it just doesn't work; and I read sooo many forums and Q&A's.
By the way here is my error code which appeared after 49 minutes (to proof I didn't dream this):
"2MEM/1/4: DIMM3/J14"
Why do I want to do this?
Around the 1st of September this year my Power Mac G5 didn't boot anymore (the fan speeding issue). After reading a little online I came to the point that its either my Ram memory or its my graphics card or its Pram or NVram. I resetted Pram and NVram, I also replaced battery and then it booted again for one day but on the following day it didn't. I repeated every step but the battery replacement since it was a brand new one. It can only be Ram memory or my Graphics card (which is the standard one for this machine).
Since then my Power Mac was rarely in use, only two or three times in Firewire Target Mode to access some of the data. Yesterday I wanted to do this again; booting it in FT mode but I must have connected my keyboard too late during booting and my machine surprisingly booted just fine! I was so stoked about this! Then I wanted to find out why it didn't work for a while and started several steps. Ran maintanance scripts, repaired the system volume, checked for enough free space, checked my Ram and then I stumbled on the interwebs over the hardware test which is delivered on the original install disc 1 and I never heard about this before (strange enough). What followed is written above.
What do I have?
I have this:
Modellname:
Power Mac G5
Modell-Identifizierung:
PowerMac7,3
Prozessortyp:
PowerPC G5 (3.0)
Prozessorgeschwindigkeit:
2 GHz
Anzahl der CPUs:
2
L2-Cache (pro CPU):
512 KB
Speicher:
4 GB
Busgeschwindigkeit:
1 GHz
Boot-ROM-Version:
5.2.4f1
Seriennummer (System):
CK52107BRTY
Hardware-UUID:
00000000-0000-1000-8000-000D93640EEE
Sorry for the German but I think you still get it. The PPC was delivered with 10.4 and I bought it used from a friend with his original Update disc to 10.5 and I updated to the max, 10.5.8. I have 2x 1TB drive (similar ones) together as a Raid0 and three partitions on it. (I know now that it doesnt make that much of a sense).
Yeah so I really want to find out why my machine didn't work for three months but since it is so old and I'm a student, it doesn't make any sense to me to go to an Apple store or similar to have it expensively serviced since there is no guarantee that these guys really help you (heard some stories about the local stores here).
Is there a way to re-access the hardware test and run it to the end?
As you might have noticed, I'm pretty desperate. I would soooooooo appreciate it!!
Best,
Erik

"2MEM/1/4: DIMM3/J14"
Replace the memory in the DIMM 3 slot.
If you are running Mac OS X 10.5 you can use this program to test your G5's memory:
http://www.kelleycomputing.net/Rember/
It will subject your RAM to a more thorough test than Apple Hardware Test.

2Gb Memory Modules - Power Mac G5?

New here, but a returning Mac user.... at last....
Just got hold of an older (early 2005) G5 Power Mac (Dual 2.7Ghz). Can anyone tell me if it's OK to upgrade the memory using 2Gb memory modules (assuming of course I have matching pairs, and don't exceed the max memory - 8Gb I think)?
Sorry, I'm only able to find that 2 x 1Gb modules is OK, but so far nothing on 2 x 2Gb modules...
Thanks.
~Mark~

2 x 2Gb modules will not work.
Apple specs here: PMG5 RAM Requirements

Power Mac G5 (late 2005) memory showing two different speeds

Alright, here's the situation. I have a late 2005, Dual 2,0Ghz, water cooled, model, G5 Power Mac tower. These have 8 memory slots, (1 upper bank of 4 slots and one lower bank of 4 slots located directly above and below each other on the motherboard). The two inside slots (the two slots that are closest together - one from each bank) are labeled slot 1. Then the next two slots (moving outward from the middle) are slots 2, then slots 3, then slots 4. Anyway,according to the Apple specs, the memory should be set up in matching pairs of like modules: i.e. slots one = 2 X 1GB sticks of matching PC4200, slots 2 = 2 matching sticks of PC4200, etc., etc, up to a total of 8 GBs of compatible memory.
I have 8 X 1GB sticks of "matching" Kingston PC4200 memory installed, and it even shows up on the "About This Mac" page as 8 GB. However, if you take this one step further and proceed to the "More Info" page, under the "Hardware" tab, the "memory" info it shows up as 4 sticks of DDR2-PC4200, and 4 sticks of DDR2-PC3200. Ironically, slots 0,1,2,3 indicate as PC-4200 (533Mhz), and slots 4,5,6, & 7 indicate as PC-3200 (400Mhz). Can anyone give me some insight as to why this would be happening? I've also re-arrainged the memory modules, but the memory speed discrepancy stays the same.
Any help would be appreciated!

It's likely no problem if everything is running fine, some SPIDIF chip anomoly I think.
I've read several problems with Kingston RAM in Macs.
Here's my Quad G5's RAM...
DIMM0/J6700:
Size:    1 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM1/J6800:
Size:    1 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM2/J6900:
Size:    2 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM3/J7000:
Size:    2 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM4/J7100:
Size:    2 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM5/J7200:
Size:    2 GB
Type:    DDR2 SDRAM
Speed:    PC2-4200U-444
Status:    OK
Manufacturer:    Unknown
Part Number:    Unknown
Serial Number:    Unknown
DIMM6/J7300:
Size:    Empty
Type:    Empty
Speed:    Empty
Status:    Empty
Manufacturer:    Empty
Part Number:    Empty
Serial Number:    Empty
DIMM7/J7400:
Size:    Empty
Type:    Empty
Speed:    Empty
Status:    Empty
Manufacturer:    Empty
Part Number:    Empty
Serial Number:    Empty

Upgrading 1.8 MHz Power Mac G5 (memory and OS)

I recently purchased an iMac loaded with Leopard. I would like to use the install disk to upgrade my older Power Mac G5. My machine is running 10.3.9 currently.
I know I need to increase memory, but by how much? A salesman sold me additional memory some time ago, but it caused a lot of problems and I removed it. Now I'm leery of what to buy. Will the following memory description be appropriate, both in type and quantity to run Leopard?
1GB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Module For PowerMac G5 Models(requires pairs!), iMac G5, Mac mini 1.25GHz/1.42GHz Models. TRUE PC3200 CAS 3.0(or Faster) Non-Stacked 64x8 device Low-Noise PCB Solution! New, Lifetime Advance Replacement Warranty. (OWC3200DDR1024)
My Power Mac's memory currently consists of 2-128MB DDR SDRAM PC3200U-30330.
I'm application-oriented and not too technically savvy.

The G5s came stock with 256MB 6 yrs ago but even then it was sub-standard amount and 1.2 - 1.5GB RAM was much better for even basic light use.
2GB should be a good improvement, you have 4 DIMM slots likely. But it depends on what you plan to do or use it for. Buy from vendors that sell and cater to Mac hardware.
OEM DVDs like from an iMac can't be used, they don't load sometimes, and you really do need retail discs. Good luck finding 10.5.x DVD retail.
New drives can also do a lot to improve performance.
Realize though, other than running older PowerPC applications, the iMac should be able to do most things very well.

How can i use my smart TV as a second monitor for my Power mac (2010) via HDMI cable? i've made the connection but no options show in system prefs display.

How can i use my smart TV as a second monitor for my Power mac (2010) via HDMI cable? i've made the connection but no options show in system prefs display.
the computer:Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.9.5), 2 x 2.66 Ghz 6-Core intel Xeon
the TV: LG Smart tv

The Mac uses a highly-parameterized universal Driver for every display. The parameters are set at certain times when a query is sent to your display. The display MUST answer with its name and capabilities, or the screen stays dark. A TV set that is off or "not paying attention" because it is set to a different port when the query occurs will rarely answer, and so will often remain dark.
You can use tools in the System Report to see whether your display has been detected at all. If it has, the report will look something like this, but its name will appear:
The times when the query is sent are:
• at Startup
• at wake from sleep
• when the Mac-end of the cable is inserted
• when using the Option ( Detect Displays ) button in displays preferences

DVI to s-video adpater for Power Mac G4?

I'm attempting to view digitial photos on my Power Mac G4 on an HDTV with an s-video connection. I've tried Apple's "DVI to video adapter" for the Power Mac G5, but it doesn't work, even after clicking "Detect Displays".
Is there a DVI to s-video adapater from Apple or anybody else that will work with the Power Mac G4? If not, are there any other options?

The Apple DVI to Video converter only works with certain graphics cards. The card has to be able to generate interlaced video at the correct scan rate, and modulate the color onto a carrier signal. For other card you would need a scan converter like:
<http://www.audiovisualdevices.com.au/viewprod.php?catid=&productid=CPT380>
This device has a VGA input, so you might need a DVI to VGA adapter. There may be other devices available with DVI input.

Seeking new display for B/W Power Mac

I have an older 20 inch Sony CRT connected to my B/W Power Mac. The CRT has finally met its day and I am seeking a replacement. I am looking at a flat panel, 19 or 20 inch where I can connect it to my existing graphics card. Any recommendations?

I hate to rain on your parade, but that adapter is for extracting VGA from a computer that produces DVI AND uses the bar and the four pins around it at the end of the connector. It works because the bar and the four pins, if provided and connected internally, provide EXACTLY VGA when combined with one other pin used in both DVI and VGA.
The stock card on the Blue & White G3 provides a "standard" three row 15-pin VGA, and that is what you should search for in an inexpensive display solution. If you are willing to spend an additional US$100 or more, you can get a PCI-slot display card with a DVI connector on it.
Cards that feature an ADC port to run some of the fancy Apple displays also require a computer that provide the required 28 Volt power in the Accelerated Graphics Port AGP slot. Your Blue & White does not have such a slot and cannot provide that power.

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