HT201317 Differences of Camera Roll, Photo Stream and Photo Library on iPhone?

I use my iPhoto exclusively as my camera at hand and that means I have tons of photos. What is the difference between Cameroll, Photo Stream and Photo Library? It seems that my Photo Stream has images that can be deleted ( a trash bucket icon) whereas the tech support and my local Mac store said the Photo Stream images are the ones that will be sent to iCloud and should not have the bucket. Whereas my Photo Library is not deletable? Whats is this all about and how can I make it right so I may manage my images correctly?

Camera Roll, all the picture you have taken with your iPhone. They are include in the iPhone Backup but should be transfered to your iPhoto Library on the computer for a better back up. Just like in the old days with a film camera, the is like you iPhones roll of film.
Photo Stream is iCloud's way of sharing your photos between your devices. It is not permanent storage for photo's limited to 1000 photos and can be deleted automatically in 30 days. It is a handy way to veiw photos on an Apple TV and other iOS devices or a quick and simple way to transfer them into iPhoto on your computer with out having to connect your iPhone to the computer. These photos are not backed up other than being visible on all your devices.
The Photo Library contains all the photos you synced from your computer. They are not in any part a part of iCloud or it's back ups. Since these photos come from your computer they should be backed up using it's backup routine. These photos should be managed using iTunes to add and remove them.
Take a picture with your iPhone, the new photo will end up in Camera Roll and Photo Stream. Copy that photo to your iPhoto Library on the Mac either by connecting your iPhone or select the photo in Photo Stream in iPhoto and it will get copied back to your iPhone in it's Photo Library. Once in the Library and a more stable backup routine you are able to detele it from the Camera Roll to clean it up. The Photo Stream copy could be deleted or leave it there for viewing on other devices that may not have access to your iPhoto Library. I suspect we may be able to share Photostream.

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I have just installed iPhoto 11 and all of photos on my iphone have now all disappeared and ended up in my photo stream and the library in iphoto does not display all my pictures?? Can anyone help?

I have just installed iPhoto 11 and all of photos on my iphone have now all disappeared and ended up in my photo stream and the library in iphoto does not display all my pictures?? Can anyone help?

And I cant work out why all of my pictures are not diplaying in iphoto?
Is this iPhoto on your Mac? Are you referring to the photos that were in your iPhoto LIbrary prior to the upgrade to iPhoto 11? If so then apply the two fixes below in order as needed:
Fix #1
1 - launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
2 - run Option #4 to rebuild the database.
Fix #2
Using iPhoto Library Manager to Rebuild Your iPhoto Library
1 - download iPhoto Library Manager and launch.
2 - click on the Add Library button and select the library you want to add in the selection window..
3 - Now that the library is listed in the left hand pane of iPLM, click on your library and go to the Library ➙ Rebuild Library menu option.
4 - In the next window name the new library and select the location you want it to be placed.
5 - Click on the Create button.
Note: This creates a new library based on the LIbraryData.xml file in the library and will recover Events, Albums, keywords, titles and comments. However, books, calendars, cards and slideshows will be lost. The original library will be left untouched for further attempts at fixing the problem or in case the rebuilt library is not satisfactory.
If that's not what you're referring to then you should describe what is happening in more detail. Remember we can't see your Mac or your iPhone so need detailed and accurate descriptions of what you're experiencing.
Also we need infomartion like do you have an iCloud account and are you logged into it on all of your devices, iPhoto and Mac? do you have Photo Stream enabled on both.
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Understanding photo stream and Photos

I have installed Photos and migrated my Aperture library.
iCloud Photo Library is turned OFF
My Photo Stream is turned ON
iCloud Photo Sharing is turned ON
I have photos on my iPad and iPhone. These and my desktop machine are all logged into the same iCloud account.
There are several recent photos on my iPhone which are not showing up in Photos "My Photo Stream." Some older ones do.
The "missing" photos show up on my iPhone (device used to take photo) and have automatically transferred to the photo stream on my iPad. They simply don't show up on the desktop in "photos."
Any ideas why or how to correct this?
On a related topic, how does Photo Stream actually work...
If I delete a photo on one device, is it deleted on all devices?
If I "import" photos to my Photos library (connect phone to computer and import) do these photos exist in both the stream and on my computer? In other words, after import, am I able to delete these items from the photo stream while retaining the imported version on my computer?

If the old ID is your ID, and if your new ID was created by editing the details of this old ID (rather than being an entirely new ID), go to https://appleid.apple.com, click Manage my Apple ID and sign in with your current iCloud ID. Click edit next to the primary email account, change it back to your old email address and save the change. Then edit the name of the account to change it back to your old email address. You can now use your current password to turn off Find My iPhone on your device, even though it prompts you for the password for your old account ID. Then save any photo stream photos that you wish to keep to your camera roll. Then go to Settings>iCloud, tap Delete Account and choose Delete from My iDevice when prompted (your iCloud data will still be in iCloud). Next, go back to https://appleid.apple.com and change your primary email address and iCloud ID name back to the way it was. Now you can go to Settings>iCloud and sign in with your current iCloud ID and password.

HT201317 do i need photos in photo stream and the camera roll?

I want to know what is the difference between camera roll and photo stream. Do I need both? Are they taking up memory space on my phone? Thank you for any help. I have an Iphone 5, 16 GB

The camera roll contains the original photos that were added to photo stream. They may be slightly higher resolution than the photo stream photos as photo stream photos are "device optimized". Once camera roll photos are in your photo stream, if you want to save space you can import them to your computer and delete them from your phone, as explained here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4083.
It's important to import your camera roll photos to your computer for safekeeping and not rely on photo stream to back them up. The reason for this is because photo stream photos are only kept in iCloud for 30 days, even though a rolling collection of up to 1000 photos will remain on your phone until deleted. If, however, you ever turn off photo stream, restore your phone or replace your phone for any reason, when you reconnect to photo stream you will only get back photos from the last 30 days (as older photos are no longer there).

Before 8.3 update when I saved photos they were added to my camera roll. Then I could access the photo I wanted from any app. Now when I SAVE a photo it is not added to the camera roll at all. iCloud photo is on. AND my Photo Stream is GONE entirely.

Hi all. Since updating my iphone 6 a couple days ago, I have discovered awful glitches in photos. When I save photos they do not get added to my camera roll. My Camera Roll and Photo Stream used to match. I would take a photo on the camera and I would see it on my photo stream. Yesterday, I added an edited photo to my camera roll by saving it (I thought). But it was not there. In the past, if I wanted a photo to post in any app, from Twitter to Facebook to Yelp, in order to retrieve it easily (if I had a lot of photos on my phone) I would sometimes text it to myself and then save it. It would be added to my camera roll. Then, when any app asked me to upload a photo, I could find it right at the beginning of my camera roll photos. Now, when I save a photo it does not appear on my camera roll. I discovered this yesterday when posting a Yelp review. I found the photo I wanted to use on my camera roll and it was way back at the beginning of the camera roll. I edited the photo. I saved it. It did not get added to my camera roll. So then I looked for the photo on the camera roll where I had originally found it way back at the beginning. The edited version of the photo was gone. Could not find my photo to upload to Yelp. Then I discovered it was the same with every other app on the phone.
PHOTO STREAM DISAPPEARED! This was my main problem and primary question until I tried to resolve the issue. I saw a message on my phone that said (I thought) that I needed to connect my phone to my laptop to restore icloud backups. So I manually connected my phone to my Mac Pro Laptop (2011) and backed up my photos. I made sure iCloud was turned on for photos. I have it set to Download and Keep Originals. It is also set to Upload to My Photo Stream. And iCloud sharing is turned on.
WHEN I connected my phone to my computer I got a message on my phone about setting it up for personal hotspot and it would not complete the update unless I replied. At first i did set it up, but it seemed to be an issue, so I simply let my phone and computer use my home wifi network. I don't need the personal hotspot, but it seemed to affect the photo issue further.
Now where I used to see Photo Stream and Camera Roll, it simply says All Photos. I am extremely confused. This is a mess. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

I restored it twice, once from icloud backup and then from my computer back up. I just restored again and set it up as a new iphone and now my photos are saving again. I was then able to sync apps and music from my itunes to my phone... So happy you wouldn't believe!!

IOS 8: my photo stream and camera roll got messed up

I installed IOS 8 this morning and have not been able to see my photos as they were in IOS 7 since. Currently I can see 128 photos in my "collections" tab for the year 2014 dating back to August 31st. These same photos appear in my "recently added" section though they aren't in any order they're jumbled around!
What I've tried/things to know
Taking the advice from another thread I restarted my iPhone 5s while my photo stream in iCloud settings on and off again.
Before restarting I had 0 photos in my photos app. After following the advice I watched as 128 photos appeared in the recently added and collections tab.
While I had IOS 7 I was able to see many "years" in the photos not just 2014. I also had 1000 photos in my photo stream and stuff in the camera roll
I called Apple's help line and customer service said to see the rest of my photos I would have to download them off my computer where I have them backed up
I'm wondering:
How can I see more than 128 photos (from the past) on my iPhone? It seems like a regression in technology if I used to be able to see 1000.
Are my photos in the "recently added" section supposed to be in a random order? It's hard to view them this way.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer!

Currently I can see 128 photos in my "collections" tab for the year 2014 dating back to August 31st.
This are probably the photos from My Photo Stream ,that are currently stored in iCloud. iCloud will keep the the photos added during the last month, and then they may be removed to make space for newer photos. Your iPhone may be storing up to 1000 photos, but when you reset the Photo Stream, these will be deleted. When you activate Photo Stream again, you will now see what is currently in iCloud, and that will be now the photos from September, see: iCloud: My Photo Stream troubleshooting
How can I see more than 128 photos (from the past) on my iPhone? It seems like a regression in technology if I used to be able to see 1000.
Have these 1000 photos been taken on your iPhone or synced from your Mac, or transferred by Photo Stream? If they have been synced, you need to sync again with your Mac, and if it has been the Photo Stream, upload them again, because they are no longer in iCloud.
Did you by any chance enable the iCloud PhotoLibrary in the Photos&Camera settings, if it is available on your device? If yes, that would explain why your synced photos have been removed. If not, don't enable t, or you will no longer be able to sync the photos with iTunes.

HT4847 Photo stream and Camera Roll

Is there a way to delete photos from the photo stream without deleting all the photos OR is there a way to send photos from photo stream to my camera roll?

Deleting a photo from your photo stream album will delete it from your photo stream and all devices connected to your photo stream. However, you can save photo stream photos to your camera roll first by opening your my photo stream album, tapping Edit, tapping the photos, tapping Share, then tapping Save to Camera Roll.

HT201317 Will photos deleted from camera roll be deleted in photo stream?

There is so many contradicting answers online! I just want to take more photos and keep the ones I have. So, if I delete my camera roll, with the photo stream "backed-up" w/ iCloud, will the photos in photo stream be untouched?

I found that in my iphone 5 recently upgrade to iOS 8.1, I found that the photo in camera roll deleted, the same photo in photo stream will delete along. How to only delete photo in either camera roll or photo stream without delete once for both camera roll or photo stream ?

TS1503 If I turn off photo stream on my I phone 5 will I loose the pictures in photo stream and camera roll?

I have duplicate pictures in my camera roll and photo stream. If I turn off photo stream will I loose pictures in both areas?

If you turn off Photo Stream, all photos in Photo Stream only, will be removed from your device.

How can I restore Camera Roll to my iphone 4s? I have Photo Stream and am backed up on iCloud

How can I restore Camera Roll to my iphone 4s? I have Photo Stream and am backed up on iCloud

Syncing notes with iCloud requires it have the correct email address linked, as notes get synced with an email address.
Now, assuming that you have successfully set that up, though most people don't first time around, then if you deleted the note from the phone, it will have deleted from iCloud as well.
Meaning, unless you have that note located in a backup in iTunes or iCloud you won't be able to get it back.
You can restore the iTunes backup simply by connecting to itunes and hitting restore backup. Only thing is, any info that changed since the backup was made will be lost. (i.e. if your backup is a month old, your phone will look like it did a month ago, and only have that info on it.)
Or, you can restore from iCloud, which requires erasing all content and settings, then selecting that backup. SO, you can see the predicament.

I have so many pictures on my photo stream and camera roll. I synced them to my computer, the ones on my photo stream. can I delete the pictures in my camera roll? and still have the pictures on my computer? or do i have to save them from icloud folder to

Hi, i am an idiot when it comes to this. I have so many pictures on my photo stream and camera roll. i cant even take anymore pictures or even update to ios7. I synced my pictures to my PC, i think. can i know delete my camera roll or will my pictures disappear from my computer? im so confused!!

If you delete photo stream photos from your phone they will be deleted from the my photo stream album on your PC. Before doing that, be sure to copy or move them to a different folder on your computer.
Deleting camera roll photos won't delete anything from your computer. If you import them to your computer using your usb cable as explained here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4083, you will get an option to delete them from your phone after they are imported.

When you back up your Iphone/Ipad it backs up for camera roll. but when you take pictures and it uses photo stream, does that mean there are two copy's of your photos on icloud one set for photo stream and one set for backups?

When you back up your Iphone/Ipad it backs up your camera roll. but when you take pictures and it uses photo stream, does that mean there are two copy's of your photos on icloud one set for photo stream and one set for backups?

What do you mean by storage quota, does that mean i could be photo streaming about 1gb of photos and it does not get taken away from my free 5bg.

I was organizing my photos into albums. then deleting them from my Camera roll. Then I went into MY Photo Stream and started deleting the pics I had moved to albums;Come to find out I deleted all pic from everywhere!! Would the iCloud still have them sav

I was organizing my photos into albums. then deleting them from my Camera roll. Then I went into MY Photo Stream and started deleting the pics I had moved to albums;Come to find out I deleted all pic from everywhere!! Would the iCloud still have them saved

First of all, you should always save you photos on computer like any other digital camera.
Backup on iCloud or iTunes only backup your Camera Roll. The other photos should be already on the computer.
Note: Photos are not saved in iTunes, it's only a conduit between your iPhone and your photo managing software on computer.
What computer do you have?

Photo stream and camera roll...HELP!!

I realise to many that I will seem very stupid but the whole concept of iCloud and photo pushing is confusing me. Please can someone confirm/correct/answer/help me...?
I have an iPhone 4s and a windows PC
1. After installing iCloud on my iPhone and PC, any pictures I now take on my phone will be on the camera roll as usual and on the photo stream for 30 days/max 1000 pics
2. I can't push my previous camera roll photos to my PC via iCloud
3.I wanted to put some recent holiday pics on to my iPhone in their own folder. Photos were copied and pasted into the PC upload folder and then into photostream which i then copied and placed into the newly created holiday folder. However, these uploaded PC pics are on my camera roll aswell- now I have 3 copies of each photo on my phone!! Will all my uploaded photos go to camera roll aswell as photo stream?!- Can I stop this from happening again? Where is best to delete them from?!- surely if I delete from the camera roll (my preference) they will automatically be deleted from the new created folder too?
4. Is there a way of turning off photo stream folder and just turning it on as and when i want to sync or will that create/confuse the problem?
5.Lots of people have been mentioning iPhoto- what is this? Is it for MAC users only?
Thanks :/

Read here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486
And here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2605
iPhoto is an application for Mac's only.

How do I delete a picture on both Photo Stream and Camera Roll?

I would like to keep my iPhone4 Photo Stream and Camera Roll Albums free of crappy photo's. I would also like to reduce my time managing these two albums. Is there a way to delete a photo on Camera Roll and have the same photo automatically deleted from my Photo Stream at the same time?
I use iPhone4 with iOS 5.1.1, OSX 10.6.8 and AppleTV software version 5.1

Copies of Photo Stream photos you have saved to your Camera Roll on an iOS device or imported into events in your iPhoto or Aperture library, and photos you have copied into a folder on your PC that's not part of My Photo Stream, will not be deleted when you delete photos from Photo Stream.

HT201317 Differences of Camera Roll, Photo Stream and Photo Library on iPhone?

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