HT203477 How Use Proxy Media ?

I chose when importing create proxy media
How Use Proxy Media ?

It's been moved to the Video Display Options – the disclosure triangle in the upper right of the Viewer.
Russ

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How can I set which projects use Proxy Media and not just change every project?

Hi there
I can see how to change ALL projects to use Proxy Media or Original/Optimised Media
in
Preferences>Playback
But I'm switching between projects a lot and I only want to use Proxy Media on one project, so how can I tell FCPX to only use Proxy Media on that ONE project?
Thanks

Perhaps if apple didn't take back prores LT this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Pores LT was a great compromise between file size and quality. It produced a fine image for most peoples needs and was 30% smaller.
Hopefully it will be returned soon. I can't imagine why it's not already there. Unless they want to charge for it, ... again..
Have you tried capturing as full res, then change prefs back to proxy, open a new project and import the full res files?
In FCP7 the render pref was separate from the capture pref. is that gone too?
If my idea doesn't work, Surely someone will chime in with a creative work around to this.
And hopefully it'll get fixed soon in an update.
Best,
g

Why can't I use proxy media?

I've got media from 3 cameras - all are 720x480. Two were imported from camcorrders, one was miniDV and one was JVC hard drive (SD). When importing I did not have the option to create proxy media, and still do not have that option available (it is grayed out). The third was imported from an avi file uncompressed; it created proxy media when importing. I am trying to use them in a multi-cam clip. If I use proxy media, the two clips from the cameras show the red/yellow "Missing proxy" screen but the avi file shows fine. If I select "use original or optimized media" the clip from avi drops frames, either with "better performance" or "high quality" settings. I know I've had it playing back OK before, but don't know what I have changed such that I can't get a good playback in the multicam multi-angle viewer. It seems if the camera video is already coded so it doesn't need proxy media, it should use that format when proxy is selected (I'll make that suggestion on the feedback from). Any help would be appreciated.

The problem is AVI is not a native format to FCPX while DV is. And FCP X will not make DV into Proxy for this reason. So if you want to mix AVI with DV you need to do it in 'original' mode. For better performance what you'd want to do is convert all of the AVI to a better format- like ProRes for example then import that as your new originals for mixing with the DV footage.

I'm using proxy media for a video I'm editing but now that i switch back to the original media some of my effects are missing can anyone help me.

I'm using proxy media for a video I'm editing but now that i switch back to the original media some of my effects are missing can anyone help me.

Shouldn't happen.Only thing I can think of suggesting is to delete render files and try again. Trashing preferences is a long shot, but no harm in trying. Use the Digital Rebellion Preference Manager, a free download.
Assume you have a reason for using such an outdated version of FCP X. That may be contributing to your problem.
Russ

Making sure FCPx uses proxy media during editing

I read the manual on this and it is vague, so . . .
The proxy media has been created (I've checked that the files actually exist.) How do I ensure that these files are being used when I setup my multicam clip?
How do I ensure that they are being used while editing?
Anything special to do while exporting the final product to ensure best quality?
I've gone through the project properties and nothing jumps out at me as requiring a change except perhaps the render format.

Rusty Rat wrote:
That was one of my concerns - how to ensure I didn't produce the final product from proxy media. I suppose though that the proxy makes a good choice for producing a 'draft' version.
Yes, you can export in proxy as a draft version.
Render Format is in the Project Properties > Audio and Render Properties > Render Format.
Thanks. I had never noticed that. ProRes 422 seems to be adequate in most cases. Not sure about speed. In fact, in most cases you may not need to render at all. I always keep "background rendering" turned off and only render a section of the video if playback is not smooth.

Color Correction Using Proxy Media

If you color correct using the Proxy Media settings, are the changes you've made still going to be applied to the video when you switch back over to "Original Media?"

Yes.

Bad audio when using proxy media

I'm using FCPX on my MBP 15" late 2008. To get some reasonable speed I transcode all the clips to proxy media.
Doing this degrades audio quality to a point where the audio makes a clicking noise all the time.
Also when I add a sound effect and edit it in surround with keyframe animation the sound makes clicking noise all the time.
This noise is present when I export the movie.
What to do?

Trying that now
The odd thing is that the audio is fine when I play using optimized/original media. The audio gets crappy when I switch to proxy media.
I also get sort of the same problem when I'm using sound effects and choose "Create Space" or "Circle" under Audio inspector. These sound effects should be in the correct format since they came with FCPX.

Creating/Using Proxy media files

Hello everyone. Apologies if this is painfully obvious - but just made the transition to FCPX and trying to wrap my head around some things-
I've imported video to a number of Libraries. (I really have to fight hard not to call them Projects)
As I didn't completely understanding all of the import settings, I made Optimized video along with the Original media. Ok, no big deal. The files take up a bit of space, and because of the nature of the project (lots of talking head interviews) not sure I really need Optimized video, but wasn't too concerned. I'll know for next time that I don't want to check that box, unless I really need the Optimized video.
My question is -
If I wanted to make a copy of my media files to a portable HD, work with these files off site with the same Library that is on my Macbook Pro, make logging notes, selects, maybe even creating a Project or two, and then return to my office where I would re-connect the original media files located on the office-bound hard drives, what do I need to do to ensure that this will work properly?
Secondarily, would it now make sense to create the Proxy files to use for this purpose? Is this not what these files are normally used for? Smaller, and more easily taken on the road and edited, and then the Library will re-connect everything to the original files once re-connected to the drives that contain the original media?
I am sure there must be a best practices, or right way to do this…I just don't know it.
As always, thanks for everyone's collective wisdom. (and for not shaming the dumb guy)

Before you import files change the media location to place outside library. (Select library go to inspector press modify settings, change media location)
Or, if files imported, consolidate files outside library. (Select library go to inspector, select outside location and press consolidate. All you media files move to selected folder.)
After this, change media location to inside library and generate proxy files.
Now you have original media outside library and proxy inside. Copy library to any location, edit in proxy.
And send project/library/event by XML (select target file->export XML, and file->import->XML)
also, you can delete generated files: select you library file->delete generated library files

Proxy media created after the fact

In another thread I was trying to find out why my multicam clips were frozen in place in the angles viewer while I edited them in the timeline. One reader's suggestion was to convert the clips making up the multiclips into proxy media. I did so; right-click on clips and select "Transcode media..." then "Create Proxy Media." That all worked as it should (though it did not remedy the angles viewer problem) however what I'm wondering now is just what did I do to my project? I just blindly transcoded to proxy but what does that mean to the edit I'm doing? How does this affect eventual output? Could someone please explain the ramifications of this action?
alan b

Just creating proxy media does nothing to your project.
I suppose you also changed the preferences to use proxy media (Preferences->Playback, "Use proxy media"), otherwise you'd still be using the original or optimized media all the same.
All the edits you make are preserved, whether you work in proxy or not.
The usual workflow when you need proxy is simple:
1) create proxy media if you haven't already (as you did)
2) switch to proxy media in preferences (as I suppose you also did)
3) when finished, switch the preferences again ("Use origina/optimized media") so that the final export is done in full quality. (In the meantime you can of course export "draft" versions in proxy mode)
Note: if you switch proxy *before* creating proxy media for all the clips, you'll get the "offending" clips appearing in red with a yellow warning; if that happens, just create the proxy media after the fact and everything will be fine.

I accidentally Imported the Proxy Media!

Hello, I'm working on a music video and this was my first time using proxy media. I accidentally imported the proxy files, rather than going to preferences and changing it there... So it thinks that the proxy files are the actual files. I've spent many hours editing this video and i was wondering if there's any way to trick FCP X into thinking that when I drag in the actual video files to my project, and try to replace them with the proxies, that it thinks its the same file? If anyone knows a way around this, please let me know! I'm hoping I didn't waste 8+ hours editing this video -_-
Thanks!
-Jordan

Well yes. A duplicate name will have fcp1(and so forth) appended to the name. But I still don't don't know what which one is the low res file and which is the real original.
I'm also not sure how you ended up here. When I tried a test project and event, I wound up with aliases to my proxy files in my Original Media folder. But I suppose how this happened is beside the point.
If you try to relink, FCP will look only for the fcp1 files – whether you relink from the project or event. So I think your best bet is to get rid of those proxy files and rename each of the original files appending the fcp1.
Since there are more than a few unknowns here, I think what I'd do is close FCP. Then In the Finder, create a new folder outside the event called hidden proxy or something. Move those proxies yo that new folder. Next, as a test rename one of the files in the Original Media folder. Launch FCP, and try relinking that single file from the event. If it works, open your project and see whether it sees the renamed file in your event.
Russ

Where is the proxy media

When I import my footage a choose to create proxy media. However when I create a munticam project and change preferences to use proxy media it says its missing. I've got to be doing something wrong!!

AndyOllery,
You have a couple of choices concerning proxy media when you import your footage. Make sure you have actually created those files. See Transcode Media Files for detailed information.
To directly answer your question, your proxy files will live in ~/Movies/Final Cut Events/EVENT NAME/Transcoded Media/Proxy Media folder. (~/Movies assumes you are using your localstartup drive)
If you don't see the files in there, niether will FCPX. If you don't see them there, then use the steps in the above link to make them now.
Best of Luck!
MM

Proxy Media Issue

I originally imported my media as "optimized" and not proxy and then laid a bunch of clips onto the timeline. I then decided I should edit the project using proxy media and so selected all the clips in the Event and transcoded them to be Proxy.
After the transcoding was done I changed the preferences to use proxy media. When I did that everything on my timeline went red instead of switching over to the proxy media.
Any idea what I did wrong? Is there something I need to do with the timeline footage in order for it to switch over. I've gone too far into the project to lay it all out again so I'm hoping there's another solution.
Thanks,
Ray

Puzzling - but have you tried selecting the clips in the Timeline and transcoding them to ProRes?
(Just an idea - I'm away from FCP X at the moment, so I can't try it myself).
Andy

Proxy-media vs optimized media

Hi Folks,
Upon importing my media I'm able to choose between proxy and optimized media. The difference between and the sense of those is understood. But what I'm not understand - why I'm allowed to select proxy-media AND optimized media at the same time? In my opinion you need EITHER proxy (on a laptop) OR optimized media but never both of them together...
Because if you import as proxy AND optimized, FCPX will take the proxy for editing and the optimized files are useless, right?
So why is that, why can I choose both and not one of them?
Best regards
Jörg

You only need optimized media if your computer has problems working with the original media. Optimized media will transcode your original media to Prores 422, which is much easier CPU-wise to edit with as compared to H264. However, it takes up LOTS of space, so if you have no problems editing with your original media, you don't need to generate optimized.
Proxy media is a low-res version of your original media -- 1/4 resolution I believe, and it uses a reduced quality codec meant only for "offline" editing. e.g., using a laptop. However, like Tom says, if your machine is underpowered and you don't have the space for the optimized media, it's another alternative.
I would not recommend only using proxy media for editing since the resolution is much lower and you won't really be seeing a true representation of your content. I'd say though if your computer can handle editing in H264, there would be no reason for generating optimized media.

What are the downsides to working with Proxy Media?

My iMac is one of the more powerful ones: i7, 2 internal drives (the main one is a 256 GB flash drive), ATI Radeon HD 5750 w/1 GB VRAM, 16 GB RAM. But I notice that when I'm trying to apply multiple effects to a compound clip and then use crop to zoom on it, it starts dropping frames all over the place and barely plowing through.
I'm wondering if I should edit with proxy media. I know one disadvantage is the amount of space it takes to have both proxy and regular media, but I have plenty of disk space. I edit AVCHD footage that I optimize upon import.
I will also be doing a lot of multicam editing.
So I'm thinking proxy media is the way to go. But I have to wonder what the disadvantages to using proxy media are. For instance, since you're editing with a lower-quality version of the video, does that mean that when you do things like color correction you aren't getting a good a final result when you switch back to the regular media?
I'd appreciate any advice/tips.

JDLee wrote:
.... you aren't getting a good a final result when you switch back to the regular media?
no, the color correction is done with the 'HDef' material.
proxies is just a pre-view thing; esp. when doing multicam, the amount of data shoveling from/to harddrive is enormously ... theoretically, even a fw800 connected super-fast Raid can handle only a max. of 10 HDef streams ...
I'm on consumer/hobbyist level - handling here 4 streams from usb-drives - as proxies, no problem.
when editing is done, you switch back to original/optimized and export in shiny 100% ...

Use of proxy media in viewing, then exporting projects from FCPx

I am trying to get my head around the use of proxy media in FCPx and would appreciate feedback
Up till now, having used H.264 files from various cameras, I have not had the need to use proxy files. I get smooth playback etc, no issues. Now, however, using the Blackmagic Pocket CC, and find that when I am 'on the run' and using a USB external drive, or even a firewire 800 drive, it struggles to playback the very large Prores files.
I understand the use of proxy media files in playback, and to assist with smooth editing.
Where I am lost is in how to ensure that any exported files from FPCx, either directly (or if I send to Compressor) are using the high quality Prores files, and not exporting based on the proxy files
I see well, how to change the file for playback from prores to proxy and back, but how do I ensure the high quality file is used for export ?
Best Wishes
Paul

The playback switch berween proxy/originals also switches what is to be used when sharing.
When switching to originals and requesting to share the switch is locked until the sharing process completes (so you can continue editing, but using originals only).
Not sure if this affects Compressor. I believe not.

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