HT204048 Installing Windows 7 without Boot Camp?

So I have decided to install Windows 7 on one of my 2 MiniMac Server's 1 Tb HD's, without using BootCamp on that same drive.
Ho do I go about installing the needed drivers, without having installed Bootcamp?

You can run Windows in a virtual machine, which saves having to reboot to Boot Camp. This allows you to access Mac OS and Windows from one boot.
Parallels
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Can I install Windows 7 without Boot Camp?

If I put in my Mac OS X restore disk and booted from that, then erased my hard drive and partitioned it so there were two partitions, could I install OS X on one partition then insert my Windows 7 disk and boot from that disk and install it on the other partition? Then use the Mac OS X restore disk to install the Boot Camp drivers?

If you do a google search there are some that have installed Windows on a Mac without boot camp. But all of them have had problems getting all the hardware to work.
What is your problem using Boot Camp? All that it does is partition the drive and set it SO Windows will install on it.

Installing Windows XP without Boot Camp

Ok, so i started with a small Windows XP partition, and i wanted to resize it so i could install Call of Duty 4, well i deleted the partition, then tried to make a new larger partition, well it wouldn't work i kept getting an error in Boot Camp Assistant, i tried defragging it, still didn't work. My question is can i partition using Disk Utility and then install Windows on the new partition, without going through the boot camp program?
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No you cannot, as the manually created partition won't have an emulated BIOS or MBR partition map.
To fix the Boot Camp issue, what you can do is make a backup of your system with Time Machine, then boot into your Mac OS X Installation CD and restore from the backup. This will cause all your data to be rewritten to the beginning of the drive, and will allow Boot Camp to partition properly.

Installing Windows 7 with boot camp as whole partition on 2nd internal hard drive

Hi all,
I am unsure what is the recent changes with Apple boot camp. But when I used boot camp utilitiy on my Mac Pro (Mid 2010) to install windows 7 64 bits. It would not install and created a whole lot of problems.
After I initialise the process to install windows 7 using boot camp utilities, I chose the option to create a single partition to installl windows 7 on my secondary internal hard drive (1TB). After I restarted my Mac Pro and started the Windows 7 installation process, I was unable to install Windows 7 on the BOOTCAMP partition created by the boot camp utilitiy. I got an error something about Windows cannot be installed on the selected forum because the driver contained GPT details.
I tried to format the BOOTCAMP partition, but it ended up with errors. I tried to delete and recreate the BOOTCAMP partition in Windows setup, but failed with errors again. As I could not go any further with the Windows 7 installation, I had to hard reset my Mac Pro and tried to reboot back into Mac OS X Lion and that's when the nightmare begin.
Not only I could not boot into OS X, I could not use any of the startup key combinations (i.e. Hold option key to select start up disk, option + R to boot the lion recovery drive, not boot from any external firewire drive installed with OS X Lion). Basically none of the key combinations worked except for the holdingi F12 and mouse key to eject CD.
The only thing I could boot the Mac Pro with is the windows installation CD and Linux Ubuntu Raring Distro. I can install the ubuntu distro without any issue. However, I could not boot my mac pro back into OS X as Linux does not support bootcamp. The only way I could use Mac OS X Lion again is to delete the partition OS X Lion was installed on, and then I was be able to install Windows 7 without any issue.
After installing windows 7 I would have to download boot camp and then use the boot camp control panel to restart in the Mac Pro installation DVD and I will have to reinstall OS X again. After installing OS X, I went to System Preference and tried to select Windows 7 as startup disc. But I failed to as it says "Windows 7" Was installed via another utility. I would have to erase the partition and reinstall Windows 7 again using bootcamp utility. If I try to install windows 7 again, the horror I described above repeats again.
From my understanding, the Boot camp utility creates a new EFI bootrom with Master Boot Record (MBR) in FAT32 format. Therefore I could not boot back into Mac OS X without using boot camp in windows 7 as none of the boot combinations key worked.
I want to ask if anyone is experiencing the same issue as i do, and if there are any solutions to the problem I am experiencing. I never had such issue before. I was able to install Windows 7 on my 2ndary internal hard drive without issue using boot camp. I don't what has changed. I have googled for solution, I only found something related to XOM but nothing else.
If anyone can provide me with any help in regards to installing Windows 7 as a whole partition on a secondary internal hard drive. It'd be grealy appreciated. Thank you in advance.

If you have driver issue, just pre-download the boot camp drivers and save them on an external drive or burn them onto a cd, you will be able to load drivers via the advanced installation option during windows setup, that is if your osx partition isn't actively preventing you from installing win7 on the BOOTCAMP Partition created by boot camp assistant, I find this rather ironic, took me 3 days to figure out this issue, I was stuck without being able to boot into anything beside the windows cd, which wasn't even helpful as I could not install windows as I did not want to delete my osx partition. I lost all my data becsuse of it, as I had no idea what was going on. I tried to recover the partition using testdisk, hfsprogs and gparted in ubuntu life cd but they dont support HFS+. As I could not access osx terminal (couldn't even boot into osx installation dvd with that dreaded MBR created by boot csmp). I could not use pdisk in terminal to restore the osx partition map. Though luck for me. Called applecare and they had no idea what the problem was, and as usual they orgsnised for hard drive replacement. But it was clearly a software issue.
They will have to fix bay2 for me as I can no longer detect any hard disk connected to that bay.

Am I able to install Windows 7 in Boot Camp with this HDD partition setup?

I recently upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion, and my Boot Camp partition was obliterated beyond recognition. Fortunately I have backups, but I'm having issues re-installing Windows 7. This is what my disk looks like:
Mac OSX - Current Lion partition
Untitled - Where Boot Camp / Windows 7 used to live...
Shared - 1TB of shared data... Media/Documents/etc
This is the error I get when trying to install Windows 7 with Boot Camp Assistant...
From what I can tell, this means I won't be able to do it without wiping the Shared partition? Or is there a workaround I can use? I'd really hate to have to move all of it over to an external hard drive, since I don't have one with 750GB of free space handy...
And would this probably happen again once Mountain Lion comes out? I'll be getting that pretty much on launch, so should I hold off on messing around with this if I'll likely have to do it all again in a few weeks?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
- Mark

Why don't you invest in a 1.5TB drive and case? And add to that a TimeMachine drive (and a small 40GB or even less "Emergency OS X" partition on it... a must - could even have clone of Lion and Lion Recovery on it, AND TimeMachine partition.
If you don't have a backup, it almost always will "rain" on the parade.
If you try booting from Windows 7 DVD and aim it at the parittion, what happens? tried?
To use BCA yes it is one partition and one way only.
You could remove " - " the UNTITLED volume and then expand Mac OS volume to fill that area, or plan for and setup Lion Recovery space too.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
People have managed. Usually planning ahead up front for a setup like this.
CLONE OS X and ~ or install Lion on an external drive and create a Lion Recovery partition.
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone-backup.html
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone.html

Installed Windows XP, No Boot Camp in Program Files

i installed windows XP through boot camp this morning, but i wasn't able to install the drivers because i didn't have my OS X CD with me. i want to boot from OS X for now until i can get the CD, but under C:\Program Files there's no Boot Camp directory.
does anybody know how to fix this without the CD, and will having the OS X CD install boot camp so i can boot from OS X again?

Hi
Restart and hold down the alt key. Click on the Macintosh partition.
Tony

Stuck during Installing windows 7 using boot camp

Hi,
Anybody please help. I tried to install Windows 7 using boot camp, but always stuck halfway...please see the attached image for my failed attempt step by step. Please correct me, if i miss anything
1)
2) Then when click continue, this error came out,
I did watch in youtube how to install windows using bootcamp, there is no this type of notification supposed to come out.
3) Then , I continued, created the window installer using bootable pen drive and download the windows support.
4) But the, It just END here without proceeding to install window.
WHY IT JUST STOP HERE???PLEASE, SOMEONE TRY TO EXPLAIN AND GUIDE ME...AND WONDER IF U SEE THE NEXT IMAGE, I NEVER CAN JUMP STRIGHT TO THIRD STEP (INSTALLED OR REMOVE WINDOW), SINCE I DO HAVE THE BOOTABLE WINDOWS INSTALLER AND UPADATED SUPPORT SOFTWARE. I cant select the third option, it just greyed...
I would be great if somebody can help me out...I did try to install the windows almost 10 times already, never success...
I am using Macbook Pro Retina 13in (late 2013), Maverick 10.9.2, 2.8 Ghz Intel core i7, 8GB 1600 Mhz DDR3

Turbostar,
Yes, i do have more than one partion on my mac hard disk, so u meant, boot camp cant work with multiple partions?
If i need to format hdisk, this will be the second time, with my 3month old macbook..

Error 0x80070017 when installing Windows 7 via Boot Camp...

I've been trying hard to research this issue and haven't come across anything that has worked for me.
At work, we have an iMac (Early-2009) that we wish to install Windows 7 on. Previous user has left, so I reinstalled Snow Leopard (10.6) and used Disk Utility from the disc to reformat complete to GUID single partition Mac OS Extended (Journaled), which is pretty standard for Macs. Mac OS X installed and booted just fine. I updated completely to 10.6.8 and all other updates. Only installed Microsoft Office 2011 and Firefox.
So Boot Camp begins...
Found that the early-2009 model doesn't "support" Windows 7 64-bit, so we are fine going with 32-bit. The 32-bit Windows 7 disc has been used to install Windows 7 using Boot Camp on 2 Mac Mini's (one Intel Core Duo, the other one Intel Core 2 Duo) just a few days ago.
Opened Boot Camp Assistant, partitioned the 1TB drive equally, inserted the Windows 7 disc, and clicked Restart.
It boots from the Windows 7 disc, I go through the options, choose the BOOTCAMP partition and format it (I assume Windows 7 is choosing NTFS for me). Click next.
It copies the files instantly, but then "begins" to Expand the files. It remains at 0% for 5-10 minutes (I can hear the Windows 7 DVD spin down and spin up, but mostly spin down). That's when the error hits:
"Windows cannot copy files required for installation. The files may be corrupt or missing. Make sure all files required for installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x80070017"
I click Ok and cancel the install. Restart and boot back into Mac OS X. And here I am.
Important Notes:
I've tried multiple times with a 64-bit disc as well. I will likely go check out another 32-bit disc from our software department, but I know this disc works on other Macs.
This issue occurred a month back as well when we attempted to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp (so before the hard drive and OS were reformatted and reinstalled). I was hoping reformatting and reinstalling the Mac OS X would solve the issue.
The Superdrive appears to be working just fine.
I read somewhere that I need to use repair disk to fix it. Does anyone know if I can repair disk a NTFS partition? Or am I suppose to repair disk the parent drive itself? The place I read it wasn't specific AT ALL and the forum was closed and I couldn't find a way to get a hold of the person. It just said "Repair disk did the trick". People, if you find a solution to your own problem, POST the solution!
Thanks in advance!

Yea, I saw that kb article. I verified we have the early 2009 iMac. It's an iMac 9,1 (3.06 24-inch, A1225).
As far as different hardware, I really don't think so, but I'll have to double check with my fellow employees. The specs all match up, but I'll see if anyone remembers having to replace hardware or send it into Apple.
I did think of trying an external DVD drive too, I'll see if I can scrounge one up. I'll post if it works or not.
The employee using the machine knows Windows, but is willing to learn the Mac OS X. Diversify your experiences I always say!
An added note to the Repair Disk "solution". Turns out you can't run Repair Disk on NTFS partitions or the parent hard drive that contains that partition, which makes since. I can only run Repair Disk on the HFS+ partition which did no good. (This is, of course, from booting up using a Mac OS X Install DVD).
Mac_Win, thanks for the suggestions!

Installing Windows 7 in Boot Camp with iso

I have downloaded an .iso file with Windows 7 on but I can't install it in Boot Camp. I've tried several things with no luck.
1. For the first, when I start up Boot Camp assistant I can't choose to "Create a Windows 7 install disk". I only have the two bottom options, the one for downloading support software and the one for installing windows 7. So I can't use my .iso file there.
2. I tried to burn a bootable dvd with the .iso file. I burned it on a Windows PC since my superdrive won't burn on the discs I've got (DVD+R). The disc works properly on the Windows PC but when i mount it in my Macbook I only get a popup that says I've put in a blank disc and some options of what I wan't to do next.
3. I tried to make a bootable flash drive and that pops up in finder, but the Boot Camp assistant won't recognize it and says I have to put in a Windows 7 install disc.
4. I also tried to open the image file in disc utility, but the result is the same as if I'm trying with a flash drive.
I'm out of ideas now so it would be nice if someone else knew any other possibilites to install Windows 7 in Boot Camp.
Or maybe there is an solution for the things I've alleready tried?
I'm using a MacBook Pro late 2008

Does it boot off the internal?
Is the external a full copy of your working system?> whew! then you can always wipe it clean and start over.
As long as the partition was created properly.... though 50GB can work it can also be slim fit in the end.
Under the worst condition - and the Mini is one of the worst, too - two minutes maybe to restart.
External because there never was an internal DVD player?
zap pram.
did you buy DVD or burn DVD? if burned, then that is likely cultprit Redo at slowest burn speed (2x) with verify.
Heck, even Windows 7 SP1 has been implicated on some were pre-SP1 worked.
For a test, there is Windows 8 RP for free. And Parallels 7 will set up a VM for you with the whole download and inistall. Not everyone needs to run natively.

I tried installing Windows 7 using Boot Camp, but it didn't work, I don't know how to "unparticion" the memory I gave to Boot Camp, and Boot Camp "vanished", help...

I tried installing Windows 7 using Boot Camp, but it didn't work.
Although it didn't work, the memory is still divided. So I looked for Boot Camp in aplications, but it literally vanished...
So I tried downloading it again, but I only found EXE files... they don't work on my MacBook Pro...
It's very new... Bought it recently...
Please... I need help to unparticion memory back to original Mac HD and install Boot Camp...
Thanks...

Below is the paragraph from the instructions. Follow it exactly and then report what happens at each stage.
How you remove Windows from your computer depends on whether you installed
Windows on a second disk partition or on a single-volume disk.
If you installed Windows on a second disk partition: Using Boot Camp Assistant as
described below, remove Windows by deleting the Windows partition and restoring
the disk to a single-partition Mac OS X volume.
If your computer has multiple disks and you installed Windows on a disk that has only one
partition: Start up in Mac OS X and use Disk Utility, in the Utilities folder, to reformat it
as a Mac OS X volume.
To delete Windows and the Windows partition:
1 Start up in Mac OS X.
2 Quit all open applications and log out any other users on your computer.
3 Open Boot Camp Assistant.
4 Select “Remove Windows 7,” and then click Continue.
5 Do one of the following:
a If your computer has a single internal disk, click Restore.
b If your computer has multiple internal disks, select the disk with Windows on it,
and then select “Restore to a single Mac OS partition” and click Continue.

Installing Windows 7 With Boot Camp on Mac Pro 3.1 w/GTX285 Video card

I have an Early 2008 Mac Pro 3.1 running the latest version of OS 10.6 with all updates. I have an nVidia GTX285 card installed in the Mac Pro that has been working fine for at least six months under OS 10.6 with Mac drivers downloaded from the nVidia web site and installed under OS 10.6. I replaced the ATi 2600XT video card with the nVidia GTX285 in order to have CUDA support in Premier Pro CS 5 and it works beautifully.
I now wish to install Windows 7 Professional 64 bit on this Mac Pro. I have never had any version of Windows installed on this Mac Pro. I am using Boot Camp assistant and a new full version of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit.
My question is do I need to remove the GTX 285 graphics card and replace it with my AT 2600XT before installing Windows 7? This would be a real pain to do because the two connectors to the motherboard are hard to get to. However, since Apple never used the GTX285 in any of its computers, I am worried that I will not have any video display when I go to try and install Windows 7 with Boot Cam assistant.
Please advise me whether removing the graphics card is necessary before installing Windows 7 with Boot Camp.
Thank you in advance for responding.
Tom

NO.... he has a workstation, and not MBP, nor are "drivers already loaded."
How I would proceed -
Install Windows on its own drive.
Pull all the other drives.
Boot from Windows 7 Pro DVD
Forget Boot Camp Assistant, it doesn't do anything - unless you really want to install Windows on the SAME drive as Mac OS - not ideal and not what most of Mac Pro owners do.
Just insert your OS X DVD once Windows is up to date - helps to buy the SP1 OEM version $129.
Run Apple SETUP.exe (Boot Camp 3.0.x drivers) and update with ASU or manually to 3.2.
No you don't need to go back and use that ATI. And you dont' want to be in the situation of changing from ATI to Nvidia and all the hassle that adds. you are fine.
The Mac Pro is as close as anything to a standard Wintel workstation.
Add MS Security Essentials or KIS or whatever you favor. KIS2011 or NIS2011 are good, MSSE 2.0 is free and based on their enterprise product.
AV-Test.org Test Security-Software

Blank screen when installing Windows 7 with Boot Camp - Mac Mini 2011

I'm new to the Mac scene, having barely any knowledge on the OS.
I've been trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp on my new Mac Mini (Latest offering from Apple).
I have an External DVD Drive which I have been using, connected via two USB's to the back of the Mac Mini itself. It's fully functioning, with the Mac recognizing the Drive. I've used it for some CD's and DVD's so far.
I have a full, licensed copy of Windows 7 Home Premium, bought from the Microsoft Store on a DVD. There's both a 64bit and 32bit DVD, of which I have tried both to install Windows 7.
I've been through the Boot Camp Assistant software, un ticking both the "Create a Windows 7 install disk" and "Download the latest Windows support software from Apple" because I already have the Windows 7 install disk. I've had troubles downloading the Windows support software from Apple, as it just stops about 1/4 of the download for no apparent reason.
So once I've made the partition, I insert the Windows 7 DVD into the External Disk Drive, and it reboots. At first it looks like the Disk Drive is working, as you can hear the Disk movement and a blue light on the front of the Disk Drive... But then the screen goes blank, and the Disk stops spinning (from what I can tell). Nothing else happens from then on.
Is there any reason as to why this is happening?
Thanks, Dominic

Yes. Booting from a USB-DVD to install Windows
The MacBook Air has extra drivers. Some people have edited the script preference plist to add their model Not all USB DVD devices may or may not work.
Burning electronic versions like an ISO or in .exe format you will see threads where that is the issue.

A Few Questions Before Installing Windows 7 in Boot Camp...

1. New Mac Pro compatible with both 32 and 64 bit Windows 7?
2. What is the minimum safe amount of space needed on the boot camp drive partition to Windows 7 to operate with no issues?
3. If one no longer needs the boot camp partition nor windows can one reset things back to factory specs with only the Mac OS on the drive and recover the full drive space like new?
4. Any good video tutorials out their on installing Windows 7 with boot camp?
5. This is a big concern for me, lots of complaints the the nVidia drivers in windows are not up to date and this has caused a blank screen to come up. Has this video driver issue been resolved?

you say Mac Pro, well that means you can put Windows on its own drive, and that you will need to use ATI drivers directly.
not knowing what your needs are maybe a VM is enough.
too general to say how large and that can be based in part on amount of RAM installed, programs, data. And with 1TB costing $90 does 25GB vs 50GB vs something else? I mean $10 for 100GB is getting cheap.
If you intend to buy a Mac Pro then obviously you want 64-bit, and if it is single cpu you don't need Windows 7 Pro.

I install windows 8 via boot camp but its corrept so i recover this by the bootable usb which is helping me to install windows 8 but in recovery my osx is formatted automaticly now its become a pc how can i install my mac osx again?

i install windows 8 via boot camp but its corrupt so i recover this by the windows 8 by the help bootable usb which is helping me to install windows 8 but in recovery my osx is formatted automatically now its become a pc how can i install my mac osx again in my mac mini? please help me

If you have a Mid 2010 model: Computers that can be upgraded to use OS X Internet Recovery. If later then see below:
Install Mavericks, Lion/Mountain Lion Using Internet Recovery
Be sure you backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive because the following procedure will remove everything from the hard drive.
Boot to the Internet Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND-OPTION- R keys until a globe appears on the screen. Wait patiently - 15-20 minutes - until the Recovery main menu appears.
Partition and Format the hard drive:
Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
After DU loads select your newly installed hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed. Quit DU and return to the main menu.
Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion. Mavericks: Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks and click on the Install button. Be sure to select the correct drive to use if you have more than one.
Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because it is three times faster than wireless.
If you have an earlier model:
Clean Install of Snow Leopard
     1. Boot the computer using the Snow Leopard Installer Disc or the Disc 1 that came
         with your computer. Insert the disc into the optical drive and restart the computer.
         After the chime press and hold down the "C" key. Release the key when you see
         a small spinning gear appear below the dark gray Apple logo.
     2. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue
         button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
         After DU loads select the hard drive entry from the left side list (mfgr.'s ID and drive
         size.) Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window. Set the number of
         partitions to one (1) from the Partitions drop down menu, click on Options button
         and select GUID, click on OK, then set the format type to MacOS Extended
         (Journaled, if supported), then click on the Apply button.
     3. When the formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Proceed
         with the OS X installation and follow the directions included with the installer.
     4. When the installation has completed your computer will Restart into the Setup
         Assistant. Be sure you configure your initial admin account with the exact same
         username and password that you used on your old drive. After you finish Setup
         Assistant will complete the installation after which you will be running a fresh
         install of OS X. You can now begin the update process by opening Software
         Update and installing all recommended updates to bring your installation current.
Download and install Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1.

How do I install Windows XP with boot camp assistant, on my IMac?

How do I install Windows XP with boot camp assistant, on my IMac?

Lion cannot BootCamp XP.
You can install XP under virtual machine software (Parallels, VM Fusion, VirtualBox).
And Windows 7 Pro has XP mode. XP will requires probably days of pathing after install and will be completely unsupported by MS within 1 year, but Windows 7 Pro still has great support from MS.

HT204048 Installing Windows 7 without Boot Camp?

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