HT204264 iCloud photo library

Only a portion of my iPhoto library transferred to Photos. The entire library is about 85GB and my iCloud storage states I have over 135 GB remaining. I have selected optimize space on each device and within Photo (I did not select optimize space in Photo until after the initial transfer.). How do I move the entire library to Photo?

There is definitely more than simply slow upload speeds here. At the very least there is a bug in the progress indicator that appears in the iCloud settings pane in the photos app. I have had a similar problem, with the message claiming it has 17029 photos still to upload, after several days of running, that is what it said at the very beginning and it never went lower than that, and the blue bar remains entirely empty.
However if I look at network usage in the activity monitor, I see cloudd uploading at a rate of between 130-150kb/s (about 1Mbps). If I 'pause uploading for 1 day' then I see that traffic cease, and resuming starts it up again. After watching it for a couple of minutes, cloudd had uploaded more than 20MB of data, which has got to be at least 10 or 20 photos, but the progress indicator still hasn't changed!
I hope that it is simply the progress indicator. But I don't see any of the photos appearing in the web version of iCloud that weren't there before I started syncing. I worry that it is in fact using up all my bandwidth uploading my photos to nowhere!!!

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HT204264 iDevice Sync Query - IOS Photos & iCloud Photo Library over filling ipad iphone storage - what happens next?

Device Sync Query - IOS Photos & iCloud Photo Library fills ipad iphone storage - what happens next?
Quick question, when you select IOS Photo / IiCloud storage (photos are optimised etc) what happens when ipad / iphone storage is full and you now need to add new apps, photos etc? In my case I have 3 * 64gb ipads & 2 * 128 gb iphone but these are all filling up with photos since enabling IOS Photo & iCloud Photo Library (as all of my photos on each device are now copbined on every device as well as the cloud). This has become a problem as when I try to sync my idevice I get the device full warning (and I am assuming I now need to delete apps / videos if I want to sync or make more space for new photos etc). As far as I can tell once you enable IOS Photos and iCloud all photos will upload at original resolution and download at idevice resolution and there is no way to select / control the photos you want to keep on phone (eg if you delete photo on phone it will now delete the original on cloud).
Couple of questions / Suggestions:
- Will IOS Photos on IOS device automatically lower resolution of pics or use thumbnails for old photos that are already in icloud to ensure that there is space on device for new photos, apps videos music etc. Eg will old photos that have already been uploaded in icloud be replaced by new apps videos music etc (not sure that the IOS Sync or iCloud currently does this)
- Is there away to limit control or limit the number of IOS photos that sync to each idevice (eg by starring photos)? I had a look and can not see away to select photos you want to keep or remove (without deleting them on cloud). As per above I am hoping that the IOS sync and icloud systems are smart enough to replace Photos that have already upgraded to cloud with a lower quality / thumbnail to make more more room for new photos and apps (but not clear if this occurs)
- If this is a problem now what happens once the new PHOTOS launches for OS Desktop eg will it add in all our photos from iphoto to the icloud then to the idevice as part of the OS PHOTOS UPGRADE. I have 15-30 gb of photos in IPHOTO that are now backing up to icloud, there needs to be away to only select starred photos or albums or every photo try to download to my iphone (which will kill my storage). There also needs to be away to keep photos on idevice (for those times when you do not have internet and can not download from iCloud to iDevice
Apologies if I have missed something obvious and welcome any thoughts & answers.
If there is no solution then Apple needs to look at this and highlight it as a risk to customers who switch as this is being sold as a way to minimise your device storage but can lead to to customers using up more storage for photos on ipad iphone as a result of switch to IOS PHOTOS &
iCloud Photo Library

Things are not as dire as they might seem at first glance. My 66GB iPhoto Library became a 40GB iCloud Photo Library (~11K photos, ~300 videos) and only uses 2.2GB on my iPad and 2.4GB on my iPhone. Scaling that experience, a 64GB/128GB iOS device should be able to easily handle a 300GB iPhoto library. My iPad and iPhone are 32GB devices and I expect them to be livable through at least 30-40K of photos.
16GB devices have always been problematic for space even before iCloud Photo Library so I'd expect anybody with a 16GB device and more than a few thousand photos is not going to be able to use iCloud Photo Library with it. They will have to use iCloud Photo Streaming to get photos to iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Sharing or iTunes syncing to get a subset of photos back to the device. Not a great solution but workable. However, it wrecks one of the best features for me which is using my iPad to edit the photos I take on my iPhone.
The part that worries me is the automatic space management routine. The problem it creates is that I might want to add a movie, but there won't be enough space, and my only option will be to reset iCloud Photo Library on the device to get back to all thumbnails on it to see if that gets me the space I need. I've already had to do it a couple of times with iTunes Match and it's not fun. It all depends on how aggressive Photo Library will be in trimming off full-size photos/videos and Apple appears to be leaving it a black box at this point. It would at least be nice to know an estimate of the minimum size so I know how much space I can recapture.

HT204264 Will iCloud Photo Library allow family sharing?

I recently spend a lot of time and effort moving our family of 4 to a Family Sharing program. It works nicely for music and apps.
Now that there is this new option for iPhoto I am seriously considering using it to store all our photos (right now we are using a local NAS). Problem is, it appears, is that everyone now has their own account and therefore cannot point iPhoto to the same account for iPhoto.
I suppose to reasoning for this would be that if I'm going to spend $20/Month to get 1TB of storage, I'm not going to be doing it for every account - just the one main family account.
Thoughts?

Apologies - I need to update the footer. Forgot it was automatically attached.
1 - Newest OS, 10.10.2. Newest iPhoto, 9.6.
2 - Agreed and understood. I had the NAS failure the other day, swapped out a disk and am back in action. This was more of a future question. I don't feel like local RAID is appropriate anymore given the cloud options out there... and those to come.
3 - Again, I provided insufficient information. I have a NAS to which I have offline storage of iPhoto. I execute a weekly cron job which rsync's to the NAS - copying a bunch of data. iPhoto, iTunes music, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my clearly obtuse post.
Hopefully the new data is useful.
LarryHN wrote:
Thoughts? Yes!
1 - You state that you have OS X 10.6.8 - Is that correct? what version of iPhoto?
2 - iCloud Photo Library is not available on the Mac (it will be when Photos is released probably with OS X 10.10.3 later this year) Uitil it is released and available no one knows what exactly it will be
3 - You appear to be operating very dangerously as the iphoto library can not be on a NAS (It must be on a drive formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) ) and it can not be accessed via a network (you must access the iPhoto library using a hard wire connection like FireWire, USB or ThunderBolt)
(right now we are using a local NAS)
So you need to provide details
LN

Can I share an iCloud photo library between family members?

I am searching for a good photo and video backup solution for my entire family. Previously I was backing up photos to a Windows Home Server that did a weekly backup to Amazon's cloud storage; however, the system disk on the home server blew up, leaving me with the choice to rebuild the server or alternatively look for a more seamless, lightweight solution. I have large quantity of photos and video on a home server data drive, as well as a large number of photos that have been recently scanned to my MacBook pro. We have almost completely transitioned to Apple products and use Time Machine for Macbook backups, so that function of the Home Server is no longer useful.
I like the concept of Apple's iCloud Photo Library; however, I need a solution that allows photos from at least my wife's and my devices to be seamlessly backed up to the library. We use different iCloud IDs. The ideal use case would be that photos taken on any of our devices (across a set of iCloud IDs) would be shared within a single library.
Family Sharing allows you to share a number of things across family members, but currently the photo library doesn't appear to be one of them.
Any pointers on how to proceed? Will the OS X Photo app and the move to bring iCloud library to the Mac make any difference? Any alternative solutions?

Someone else can probably answer the family sharing question better than I can, but I wanted to respond with an alternate suggestion. I didn't find the features I wanted in family sharing, so I didn't give it much of a chance. It did seem like you'd have a separate album for each family member.
I just recently started using Flickr and it's great. I looked into it a few years ago and there were limitations on how many MB's you could upload per day and I don't remember being impressed by the amount of free storage. Now Flickr gives you 1000 GB for free and stores the image in the original quality and size. If you download the Flickr app on your phone, you can set it to automatically upload all of the new pictures on your iphone, ipad, etc. If you and a family member share a Flickr account, you can both auto sync your camera rolls into the same Flickr account.
Personally, I'm using Flickr as a way to automatically back up photos for free. I quickly ran out of free icloud storage and I haven't wanted to pay for more.In Flickr, the auto uploads from your phone are set to private by default, but you could use flickr to share albums with friends who don't own any apple products... unlike icloud photo sharing, that only allows your friends with an apple device to view shared albums.

How does a family share an iCloud Photo Library?

I have a wife and two kids, all with iDevices. We each have our own Apple ID, and we have a fifth Apple ID for the family. I'd like to have all four devices see and contribute to one iCloud Photo Library, preferably using that fifth Apple ID. Can I do this?
As a note, I do this with the iTunes Store, happily. Apple allows you to set the iTunes Apple ID as a different one than the Apple ID used for everything else. I don't see that functionality with the iCloud Photo Library.
We could, perhaps, cobble together some solution using sharing to the family library and whatnot, I guess. That may be the only way, but it seems clunky. I will figure it out if I have to.
Thanks!
Danny.

I do want my daughter to be able to download apps or updates to existing apps even when she is not with me, but that doesn't seem possible without sharing passwords.
That is indeed not possible. She'll either need to re-acquire all those apps through her own iTunes Store account, you'll have to give her the password to your account, or you'll have to do all the updating for her.
Regards.

How do I use the same iCloud Photo Library on multiple iPhones?

I want to be able to use iCloud photo library on all my i-Devices, with the same photo library. I can log in with the same iCloud account on all devices, but, then I can't get FindMyFriends to work, because each IOS device needs it's own iCloud account for FindMyFriends.
Suggestions?

it tells me it is already in use
You will need to contact the previous owner of the iPhone in order to change the Apple ID.

ICloud Photo Library: How to prevent some photos from being uploaded/synced?

When iCloud Photo Library is on, every photo will be auto-uploaded and synced to all linked devices/computers, is there any way to specify which ones not to be uploaded? I know I can 'hide' photos so they won't appear in 'All photos', but they are still accessable from Albums.

No you can't be selective with what gets uploaded to the cloud. You might consider having a second library for photos you don't want in the cloud.

I have the iCloud Photo Library (Beta) turned on. The photos from my iPhone do get uploaded to the iCloud. The photos are then downloaded to my wife's iPhone (we share the iCloud account). How do I keep the photos from downloading to my wife's iPhone

I do not want all the photos from my iPhone downloading to my wife's iPhone from iCloud? We share an iCloud account. How can I prevent the download to my wife's iPhone from iCloud. .The "Upload to My Photo Stream" is turned off on my iPhone. . I am running 8.1.3.
I have a related question. In order to same space on my iPhone is there a way to upload the photos to the iCloud and then delete them from my iPhone.

The way to keep the photos from downloading to your wife's phone would be for her to go to Settings > iCloud > Photos > and turn off iCloud Photo Library. If that isn't an option, the other option would be for her to have her own Apple ID ( and possibly explore the new family sharing options https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/ )
Regarding the "related question" see the quotes below from iCloud Photo Library beta FAQ - Apple Support
Deleting a photo or video from your Photos app will also remove the item from iCloud Photo Library and from your iCloud storage allocation. Photos and videos you remove can be recovered from the Recently Deleted album for 30 days. After 30 days, your content will be removed from the Recently Deleted album.
If you want to reduce the space used by photos on your phone, rather than deleting them see the following:
How does iCloud Photo Library save space on my device?
If you turn on Optimize [device] Storage, iCloud Photo Library will automatically manage the size of your library on your iOS device, so you can make the most of your device's storage and access more photos than ever. iCloud Photo Library stores the original, high-resolution photos and videos in iCloud and can keep lightweight, device-optimized versions on each of your devices. As long as you have enough storage, recent photos and videos that you access the most will stay on your device at full resolution.
You can turn on Optimize [device] Storage from Settings > iCloud > Photos or Settings > Photos & Camera > iCloud Photo Library on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. You need an Internet connection to access an original photo or video that’s stored only in iCloud.

ICloud Photo Library (Beta) - Can't view older photos from before 2014

Hi All,
I turned on iCloud Photo Library (Beta) on an iPhone 6 and an iPhone 5s. These two phones had different sets of photos at the time. After the synch process completed the two phones now show the same photos. However, only the photos from 2014 are visible on both phones.
Interestingly, if I go to iCloud -> Storage -> Manage Storage -> iCloud Photo Library -> I can see that more photos have been stored than are visible. Storage reports 2600 photos, but I can only view 1800 through the photos application.
I'm hoping this is simply a Beta bug and my photos have not been lost. With luck they will become visible after a future update.
I'm curious if anyone from Apple can confirm this is a known limitation of the Beta. Or if anyone from the community has seen this same behavior.
Thanks

I really wish I could like iPhoto, but I don't know what in the world it is doing, and by locking me out of the Finder access to the iPhoto folder and doing things like duplicating photos without my asking, I've lost trust in this piece of software.
First thing is: It's a Photo manager. That's the basic key thing you need to grasp. Your photo is not the same thing as the file that contans it. That's why Finder access is not relevant. Import the Photo, manipulate the photo - losslessly - and then if you want to use the Photo in a document, upload it, whatever, put it into a new file designed for that purpose.
The illustration I use is as follows: In my iTunes Library I have a file called 'Let_it_Be_The_Beatles.mp3'. So what is that, exactly? It's not the song. The Beatles never wrote an mp3. They wrote a tune and lyrics. They recorded it and a copy of that recording is stored in the mp3 file. So the file is just a container for the recording. That container is designed in a specific way attuned to the characteristics and requirements of the data. Hence, mp3.
Similarly, that Jpeg is not your photo, it's a container designed to hold that kind of data. iPhoto is all about the data and not about the container. So, regardless of where you choose to store the file, iPhoto will manage the photo, edit the photo, add metadata to the Photo but never touch the file. If you choose to export - unless you specifically choose to export the original - iPhoto will export the Photo into a new container - a new file containing the photo.
So as long as you're hanging on to the idea that Photo=Jpeg iPhoto is never going to work for you.
If you're willing to let go of that - as you do with Addresses, as you do in iMovie, Lightroom, Final Cut, APerture - then you can begin to make sense of iPhoto too.
Regards
TD

Can I organise photos into albums within iCloud Photo Library?

i Understand that edits / deletes etc in iCloud Photo Libary will be reflected on all my iOS devices but can I organise my photos into albums using iCloud photo library?
basically I want to take photos on my iPhone, review them on my iPad, delete the ones I don't want and keep the good ones in a relevant album (e.g. "Summer holiday 2014"). Then I want to be able to see identical albums on both my iPad and iPhone. From what I've seen so far, when I create an album and save a photo to it then that album is only local to that device?
please help.

Are you saying it showed 800 photos before turning off iCloud photo library or that the 800 photos disappeared after you enabled iCloud photo library for the first time, the distinction is quite important.

Share an album using iCloud Photo Library

Hello.
I'm currently using the iCloud Photo Library and it's great.
But, I want to share an album (or just a few photos). But iCloud Photo Library does still not allow to share an album.
So, I want to use a Shared PhotoStream Album. And it seems that the iPhone is uploading my files (photos and videos) to the Shared PhotoStream.
Tell me if it is right... In fact, why the phone is re-uploading the videos/photos if there are already uploaded to my iCloud Library ?
Best regards,
Alexis

If I want to share some pictures and videos, I have to specify which photos, album and person... Yes, of course. But when I want to validate the creation of the album, I'll have to wait a long time, in particular if my Wifi is slow. In fact, if the video is already uploaded in the iCloud Photo Library, Apple should simply copy/paste it in the Share Album...

ICloud Photo Library & Family Sharing

Hi there,
is there a way to share the "iCloud Photo Library" with Family Sharing ?
Since iOS 8 do not allow to use "Share my location" on multiple devices a.k.a. "Find my Friends" (Me & my wife use one iOs account) I have to use two accounts with Family Sharing. But now the "My Photostream" is gone on my wife's device as expected.... So can I have this with "iCloud Photo Library" ?
For me it makes no sense that I have all photos and my wife don't...
Sven

Each family member has their own Apple ID, but uses the main one for purchases. It seems to make sense that each AppleID could have its own Photos library, but I can't find anything in the support area that says this to be the case definitively. I want each family member to have their own Photos library that syncs between their iPhone and their ID. I hope that's how it works.

Can I use iCloud Photo Library on just one of my Devices

I have an iPhone and an iPod touch. Can I use iCloud photo library on my iPhone and not on my iPod touch? Could I see them on my iPod if I do so?
The reason I am asking is because I have like 600 photos on my iPod and only like 50 on my Phone so I would like to put the photos from my phone onto iCloud Photo Library.

Anyone?

Can multiple Apple IDs that are linked with Family Sharing all share one "family" iCloud photo library?

We have a family library of thousands of photos. Currently, we are using iPhoto to manage all of these photos, which We each have our own apple ID, and each take pictures on our own devices, and have just been manually importing them all into the same library. With the new iCloud photo library, will it be possible to set up family sharing and all share and contribute to a "family" photo library?

Create Apple IDs for everyone individually and use that in Settings > Facetime, Settings > Messages, Settings > Game Center but keep the Apple ID used for app and content purchases in Settings > iTunes and App Stores

I wan't to share iCloud Photo Library for all family

Hi
I have a family account with 3 mails for share localisation and payment
My macbook pro use photo with icloud photo library so i upload all my library 300go to icloud
But only one mail of family can access to icloud photo library the mail who is in the macbook pro...
It's family so i wan't to active share icloud photo library to all 3 mails of my family
How can i do
Thanks

It lets me do that but when I go there it says to turn on iCloud Photo Library on my iOS device, even though I have already done so. I can't do anything until it recognizes that I have a device with iCloud Photo Library.

HT204264 iCloud photo library

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