HT204487 iPhoto Event Driven Smart Folders Destroyed in Photos

I have 10 smart albums based on named events in iPhoto that don't even show up in Photos. I have 20 more smart albums that came across but not one folder have the correct pictures. I know that I can use iPhoto but the last update of that app no longer puts the photos in the correct order so that's broken also! Is there any way to reconstruct event driven smart folders in Photos? This is a two year project with hundreds of photos that for the most part is ruined.

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so it seems like that is no way to sync albums between 2 imacs....
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Can I move an iPhoto event from Mac to Mac?

My wife and I both have MacBooks with our own iPhoto libraries. Although we each have our own photos in our libraries, there are times when we both want the same photos in our library. Sometimes we simply each download the photos from the camera and do our own thing in our separate libraries. But there are times when we are traveling with the camera and just one MacBook and we'll download photos into events and edit them. When we get home, we often want to move these photos (usually edited and nicely organized into events) to the other MacBook. I've been exporting the photos to a temporary folder, transferring them to the other MacBook over our network or using Firewire, and then importing them into iPhoto on the other MacBook.
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I am converting over from Picasa on windows to iPhoto on a new iMac I recently bought. And I have to say, the conversion has not been as smooth as I thought it would be. Any help will be appreciated highly
1. In Picasa, I was able to see my underlying folder structure. At the same time I was able to arrange pictures from multiple folders into albums which became the metadata container.
Question: Is there a way to easily see the folder structure of the underlying file system rather than have the iPhoto library which seems to show simply in terms of years.
2. From other posts on the discussion board it seems like I can simply drag the folder from Finder to the source section of iPhoto to somewhat mimic what I described in #1 above. If that is the only option, I have the next question, and that is -
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TD,
Thanks for the excellent explanation of the application and how it differs from what I have been used to doing. Without going into too much details, I would like to say that Picasa may be a file organizer, but it does allow me a concept of "albums" which is virtual and when I choose to put the same picture in multiple albums, it does not make a new copy each time.
But I am not here to compare Picasa with iPhoto, only here to see how to do things in iPhoto the same or better way.
Rolls, on the other hand) in the iPhoto Window (View
-> Film Rolls) correspond exactly with the Roll
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Folder. You can move photos between Rolls, you can
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do it via the iPhoto Window. Check out the Info Pane
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So, rolls are in fact "real" and not virtual concepts right? I would actually be moving the files from one roll to another underneath when I move a picture in iPhoto from one roll to another. Is that the correct understanding I have?
And, then FYI: A Note about the iPhoto Library
Folder:
In this folder there are various files, which are the
Library itself and some ancillary files. Then you
have three folders
Originals are the photos as they were
downloaded from your camera or scanner.
(ii) Modified contains edited pics, shots that
you have cropped, rotated or changed in any way.
This allows the Photos -> Revert to Original command
- very useful if you don't like the changes you've
made.
(iii) Data holds the thumbnails the the app
needs to show you the photos in the iPhoto Window.
Very cool. That makes sense, and I did read about this folder structure in some other posts which is very helpful to get started.
If I drag and drop a folder from Finder to the
source section of iPhoto why does iPhoto not bring
everything in as "Originals". I see that some of my
pictures go into the corresponding "Modified" folder.
It seems like there is an internal "modification"
that is done at the time of import which I am unable
to check on/off.
Your camera has an Auto Rotate feature, right? What
happens there is that your camera doesn't rotate the
pics, it simply puts a flag on them "Display Me This
Way". Part of the core philosophy of iPhoto is to
leave your original file untouched, so it creates a
modified version, showing the rotation. How to stop
it? Turn off auto-rotate or rotate the pics before
they come into iPhoto.
Excellent point. I will change that setting on the camera. Of course for all the pictures I have downloaded already, I suppose there is no way to change the rotation settings, right?
Also, in the same method, I see that the picture
got duplicated on the file system - once appearing in
the original folder which I dragged from the Finder,
and the second time showing up under Originals or
Modified folders within the iPhoto library folder
under Pictures.
How do I elimiate this duplication? Can I eliminate
it and keep the "file system folder structure"
available?
Trash your Original file structure. Let iPhoto do the
file management. Freaky, right? Well don't do it
right away, leave it until you feel confident in
iPhoto, until you feel that you can trust the
application.
The other alternative is to not copy the files into
the iPhoto Library Folder (You can change this at
iPhoto -> Preferences -> Advanced). The down side is
that iPhoto will still create the modified and data
folders, when you delete from iPhoto you'll need to
track down the individual pic yourself to delete it
from the HD and things like migrating the library to
an external HD or a new machine can be trickier.
Ok, now that I understand the application a little better, I see that the original files and folder structure is not useful at all.
But unfortunately, I would like to keep the folder structure on my external hard drive so that if I log into windows on bootcamp, I could use Picasa to access the same set of pictures. I currently have an automator action (backup folder/sync folder) which takes all the contents of Pictures folder and replicates it to the external drive. Then when I log in from Picasa, I have set the option to only scan the external drive.
If I trash the original structure and simply sync the iPhoto Library folder, and then access it through Picasa, will there be any problems if Picasa drops some of its "database type" files (I know for sure it drops a Picasa.ini)?
If I do not move any files from one folder to another, is it ok to let Picasa access the iPhoto Library folder?
Most people who want to keep their own structure do
so because they're afraid they won't be able to find
the picture files: There are three ways (at least) to
get files from the iPhoto Window.
1. Drag and Drop: Drag a photo from the iPhoto
Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a
full-sized copy of the pic.
2. File -> Export: Select the files in the
iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue
will give you various options, including altering the
format, naming the files and changing the size.
Again, producing a copy.
3. Show File: Right- (or Control-) Click on a
pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'.
A Finder window will pop open with the file already
selected.
Thanks very much again for the detailed explanation. I really appreciate it.
And, as I said above, Rolls have a direct
correspondence with the iPhoto Library Folder.
And I suppose if rolls are "real" then the virtual equivalents would be things like smart folders?
-rpmm

Design flaw in MAC OS X "smart folders" system resulting date lose

Hello there !
I would like your opinion on that issue.
This is how I discovered it : many, too many friends who switched to Mac reported me loss of iPhoto pictures with a question mark instead of the picture and "corrupted" iPhoto library. Is been more than 2 years and 15 persons in my entourage who reported that to me. This is big, too big in my opinion to not take in account those behaviors. I always thought they used iPhoto in a (very) bad way and I was wrong. They never recovered their picture.
After observing by chance how they manage their pictures, I observed, in my opinion, a big design flow in Mac OS X "smart folder" system that can too easily lead to (logically) data corruption in iPhoto.
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I posted you a screenshot to illustrate that :
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In my opinion this the most illogical design I saw in a long time !
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Message was edited by: Didsayan

Thank you all for your interesting feedback, really.
When I say 15 people, it is the truth because I love to help my entourage with Mac (since I often recommended them the Mac in the first place), and this is on a 2 years timeframe, so it is not that bad, but I is enough to me to consider their behaviors, especially since I would not have done it myself (I am a Mac-only user).
Most of them had a backup (thanks Time Machine), but unfortunately, when they do noticed the problem it was too late and Time Machine already erased the backup that had the original pictures in it, so they could not retrieve their pictures.
Of course, as you said, some of the pictures were not "lost", just removed in another location, but this led to iPhoto database corruption and this is a lot of trouble. Trying to find the original location of 100+ pictures in iPhoto database is a pretty hard job since the structure is complex and this is very time consuming, I gave up the idea of fixing those folder.
I totally agree on the fact that I is too easy to blame the system for user wrong manipulation.
In that very case, the standard features of the system are to me far too ambiguous :
- iPhoto library folder content is hidden to the user (UNLIKE iTunes library folder)
- but the standard "smart folder" "all image" search within this very "hidden content"
All that without letting the user know if he does not pay attention to the path.
Look at the screenshot I made and you will see the path is so long that it is hard to keep track were the file actually is.
I talked to user who made the mistake, and their belief, this "all image" folder is "like browsing in iPhoto" or like any "media inspector" window like in iMovie or Keynote. Which in fact, is not at all.
I suggested this discussion because in my opinion, this "all images" "smart folder" is too prone to incident, especially with unexperienced user. Thank you for the feedback.
As suggested by etresoft, I will let Apple know.

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Importing iPhoto Events as individual Projects

Hi,
I am attempting to import my iPhoto library into Aperture 3 a single event at a time, since I am unable to import my entire library without Aperture crashing. However, when I import the events, they come across as folders instead of Projects so that when I look at the Projects view, I only see 1 "event."
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If I import the entire iPhoto Library, I get a blue Folder titled "iPhoto Library", with a blue subfolder titled "Events" with contains all the iPhoto events with yellow things next to them that look like yellow crate boxes. This is good and is the format I would like to maintain.
However, when I drag an individual event, I get that yellow "box" with a title "Untitled Project" and a blue Album below it with the title of the event. This doesn't work because when I look at the Projects/Events view, all I see is the "Untitled Project" name. Also, it clutters up the left side with an "Untitled Project" title followed by the real Event name for every single event.
If I drag a group of events over, I still get only 1 Project with the title "Untitled Project" with all the iPhoto Events listed below it in blue Albums. This is the worse combination because in the Projects view I only see one Project/Event.
I hope I'm making sense, because after struggling with this for hours, my mind is starting to spin.
George

HT204487 iPhoto Event Driven Smart Folders Destroyed in Photos

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