HT4259 Why won't AirPort Utility let me extend my network with AirPort Express?

I have 2 1st Gen AirPort Express stations. I have my original AirPort wired into my modem with an ethernet cable and it works fine. I have my new AirPort plugged, well within range of the network but it doesn't show up in AirPort Utility making it impossible for me to extend the network.
All of the previous forums I've seen say to reset both routers and "set up manually" and select the box that says "allow this network to be extended". When I go to setup there is no option for either of these.
Am I missing something? What am I doing wrong?

All of the previous forums I've seen say to reset both routers and "set up manually" and select the box that says "allow this network to be extended". When I go to setup there is no option for either of these.
You are looking at instructions that apply to Snow Leopard and earlier operating sysems. You are using Lion or Mountain Lion.
Hold in the reset button on the Express that you want to use to extend for 9-10 seconds and release.
Close AirPort Utility if if it open.
As edex67 notes above, click the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen and look for a listing of New AirPort Base Station. Just below that, click directly on AirPort Express.
AirPort Setup will open automatically and take a minute to analyze the network, then tell you that the Express will be configured to "extend" the network.
Enter a device name that you want to use for the Express and click Next
AirPort Setup will take a minute to configure things. When you see the message of Setup Complete, click Done.
You are done, other than locating the Express approximately half way between your "main" Express and the area that needs more wireless coverage.

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So here's the weird part. When I finally tried 'continue' (vice manual), I would get 4 options. One would be 'ethernet' extended. So I would select it, it gave me green lights, all looked good, and still the same problem. This is when I got frustrated. I thought I had exhausted all possible combinations.
But somehow when trying continue again after another restore, I only got 3 options. One was the same ethernet extended option (can't remember what the missing 4th one was). And this time it worked - it gave me the big green circle with the checkmark saying it was successful. I don't know what I did different, but I know now that it won't work if 4 options come up to choose from. It will work if only 3 options come up. And success if only verified by the big checkmark. Had anyone anywhere said the checkmark declaring success is validation, then maybe I wouldn't have gone down so many rabbit holes thinking it should have been successful.
As for which Airport Utility I prefer, 6.2 looks nice, but it would just ignore the Express and would want me to 'forget' it and would not let me edit it. Airport Utility 5.6.1 was the one that I ended up using the most and finally had success with. It still strikes me as odd that there is no manually way to pick ethernet, it can only be choosen following a 'restore defaults', and only from the 3-option list (the 4-option list had the same ethernet choice, but it no worky).
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- configured while connect directly to the Extreme, but now on a switch (16-port hub)
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1) Restore Defaults from Base Station menu
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- if 4 options are present, may not work
4) Wait for the green circle with the big white checkmark.
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