HT4260 Extended Network: Relay has ghosted "Connect Using:"

I have 2 Airport Extreme Base Stations on Firmware 7.6.1 (current as at June 22, 2012). I was using Airport Utility 6.1 for Lion, then downloaded the 5.6 Utility per another post that indicated I could then get parity with the instructions for "Extended Network" setup.
I'm following along, but as soon as I tell the relay to extend a wireless network, the option to "Connect Using" is grayed out. It is locked on "Wireless Network" even though I want to select "Ethernet", b/c the relay base station is fed (via its WAN port) from an ethernet connection via a LAN port on the source base station that is creating the wireless network.
What am I missing?
Is there some default IPv6 setting I need to turn off? Wireless restrictions to remove? I don't get why this isn't working.

If you have your two AirPort interconnected by Ethernet, then you do NOT want to configure it for an extended network. Instead, you want to configure them into a roaming network. An "extended" network configuration is only used when there is a wireless connection between base stations.

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Hey bobupton!
Try going into the printer's EWS and using Google's public DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). It sounds like you know what you're doing so I skipped a few steps on how to get there but if you need more help with it let me know!
If I have solved your issue, please feel free to provide kudos and make sure you mark this thread as solution provided!
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Airport express won't extend network via ethernet but shows GREEN (HELP!!)

I have the following routers setup up the same network and are working.
10.0.1.1 Airport Extreme (connected to hardline from IP)
10.0.1.2 Time Capsule 1 (extending network and providing internet connection to computer via ethernet)
10.0.1.3 Time Capsule 2 (extending network and providing internet connection to Xbox1)
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Not working correctly
10.0.1.43 Airport Express 2 (wanting to set this router up to extend network to plug into desktop)
The router seems to join the network fine and will show GREEN but doesn't show a similar IP address as the rest of the routers. It also doesn't provide any internet connection via ethernet to any computer, the network pref page says that it shows RED and that nothing is connected to the computer for internet but airport shows GREEN.
Reset the router multiple times, tried every which way of setting it up and no go. I also tried assigning it a IP and not using DHCP and gave it a 10.0.1.5 and still the same outcome.
Right now just at complete loss as to what to try next.

Sorry, the older version of the Express does not have the option to "extend a wireless network", which is the setting on the new Express that provides more wireless coverage and also enables the Ethernet port.
What you want to do can be done with a different setting..."participate in a WDS network" on both the Time Capsule and Express, but I am not recommending that you do this because WDS operates only in "g" wireless mode. Your Time Capsule would lose most of its performance in this setting and the network would slow down tremendously...defintely not what you want for gaming.
You'll have the best performance if you connect the PS3 directly to one of the Ethernet ports on the Time Capsule using an Ethernet cable. If it is not possible to run the cable, the next best performance option would be to use a pair of Ethernet powerline adapters to send the Ethernet signal over the existing AC wiring in your home.

I have an airport extreme and express, if I use the extreme as a base station connected to my old router can I use the express to extend the signal while also creating a new network that only I can use?

I have an airport extreme and express, if I use the extreme as a base station connected to my old router can I use the express to extend the signal while also creating a new network that only I can use? Essentially having two wifi connection off the same network? If so how do I set this up?

Extending using a wireless connection always results in a performance compromise.
If the Express is going to extend using a wireless connection, then the Express will need to be located about half way between the AirPort Extreme and the general area where you need more wireless coverage. The more that you have line-of-sight between the Extreme and Express, the better the network will operate.
Remember......the Express can only "extend" the quality and signal speed that it receives, so it needs to be located where it can get a very good signal from the Extreme. Although Apple cleverly uses the term "extend", a more accurate term for the Express would be "repeater".
If the Express will extend by connecting to the Extreme using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection......highly recommended for best performance.....then the Express can be located exactly where you need more wireless coverage. There is no signal loss at all through the Ethernet cable, so the Express gets a full speed signal no matter where it might be located.
Post back to let us know which way to you want to go.

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Have a time capsule for main wireless. PC works fine connecting to it. Have added Airport Extreme to extend network. The mac sees it fine and the PC can connect to it via airport utility but won't connect as wireless and the internet. Running WPA2. Have the latest firmware in each. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for clarifying. If you don't mind, let's double-check your extended-network setup configuration:
o Open AirPort Utility and select the Time Capsule (TC), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then, click Wireless.
o Verify that both “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu and “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox are selected.
o Next, select the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Verify that “Extend a wireless network” has been selected from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu. Also verify that the correct Network Name is shown for the network you want the AEBSn to extend.
Do your settings match these?

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30 seconds to reconnect to a WiFi network is not unusual, especially in an environment where other radio signals on similar frequencies are present. Sorry about that.
You might get better times by letting the WiFi base station pick another channel. But you might not.

Why does my airport utility always ask me to connect an ethernet cable when I would like to use the extended network option?

Why does my airport utility always ask me to connect an ethernet cable when I would like to use the extended network option?

Please locate the model number on the side of the AirPort Express. Hard to see.....gray lettering on a white background....so you may likely need a magnifying glass and good lighting to see it.
The model number starts with a "A" followed by four numbers. If you see A1084 or A1088, unfortunately AirPort Utility 6.x in Mavericks OS X (10.9.4) does not support these older models. However, you can still administer these models if you have a Mac.....or can borrow one for a few minutes....using Leopard (10.5.x) or Snow Leopard (10.6.x), or a PC with AirPort Utility installed on the device.

I am using a verizion jetpack to wireless connect to an airport express next i want to connect a Airport extreme wired from toe express to create a second private network that has internet access via the jetpack

Thanks for the help after looking over your sugesstion I did some additional troubleshooting which i should have done in the beginning and heres what i found
Airport express is joined to and existing wireless network and i have internet access....all good
I set up my Airport Extreme as follows:
                    Connect using :ethernet
              Ethernet Wan Port : automatic
              Connetion Sharing : Share a public IP address
Tcpip      Configue IPv4: Using DHCP
DHCP                   Begin address: 172.16.22.200
                           Ending address: 172.16.22.254
Wireless    Create a wireless network
                         Wireless network name Test1
                          wpa2 security
This is needed due to set ip address of device on this private network did not address NAT
Conneted Express ethernet port to Extreme wan port
All wired devices have internet access and i get a double nat status which ignore
however my wireless device will not connect.... sometimes they will they want
any suggestions

Here are sceeen shots of the Express

Extend network AND connect via ethernet?

How do I configure Airport Express to extend my network wirelessly and connect a computer via Ethernet?
I have 2 buildings at my church I am in charge of getting this to work in. The office building has a wireless network, the sanctuary has no ethernet or wireless at all. I can get a good signal to an Airport Express I just purchased inside the sanctuary and I am using that to feed internet to the PowerMac G4 that doesnt seem to see the network from the Office area. I was told that this could also extend my wireless network to the other computers in the sanctuary. I have not been able to get this to happen.
I succesfully have it in "Join a Network" mode and it grabs the signal and gets internet to the G4. As soon as I change the mode to "Extend my network", I lose all connectivity with the network. In addition, no matter what mode I am in, I can't see this Airport from any devices wirelessly either in the utility or in the Airport browser.
So...how do I allow other machines/tablets/etc to use this airport to hook in to our network AND use the Ethernet line to feed the G4?
Thanks,
Joey

I am going from an Airport Extreme 4th gen (dual band) to an Airport Express 2nd gen (just replaced thanks to the Genius Bar, it used to be a 1st gen. single band) and then picking it up with another Express 2nd gen.
That.....is the problem.
I had understood from your initial post that you had an AirPort Extreme and wanted to extend to several AirPort Express devices.
Apple's "extend" setup works like the hub and spokes of a wheel. The AirPort Extreme would be the "hub" and the AirPort Expresses would reside at the end of the "spokes".
You can have multiple AirPort Express devices located at the ends of the spokes, but in order to "extend", each one of the them must connect directly to the "hub".....not to another extending device at the end of another spoke.
What you are trying to set up is a "hub", "relay" and "remote". Unfortunately, Apple's "extend" setup does not work this way.
The distant remote can pick up a signal from an Express at the end of a spoke acting as an extender, but the distant remote cannot "extend" the signal from an Express at the end of a spoke using wireless.
The distant remote is actually joining the network....that is why the Ethernet port is active....but unfortunately, there will be no wireless signal from this device.
Somewhere, an Express will need to connect back to the Extreme using a wired Ethernet connection. Then that Express can "extend" to another Express using wireless.

Time Capsule & Airport Express Extended Network loses connection!

OK, so I am an Apple virgin of 2 months experience, after many many years with Windows based PCs, so please be patient and gentle with me. Sorry about the long explanation.....
My set-up comprises of a Time Capsule, which is connected to the Internet via a NetGear ASDL modem. Both pieces of equipment are situated in my wife's office on the first floor of our house. My office is on the ground floor, where I have a 27" iMac and an Airport Express which is connected to a printer via the USB port. The Airport Express is sited about 10 feet from the iMac.
All software and firmware are lastest versions - TC v7.5, AX v7.4.2 & Airport Utility v5.5.
For the past 2 months, I have only been using the AX to print wirelessly and the set-up has worked faultlessly.
Earlier this week, I decided change the configuration to extend the network to allow me to use my laptop & iPhone in areas of the ground floor where I had no signal. I followed the online instructions and first changed the TC to check the box to 'allow this network to be extended', after updating the configuration successfully I moved to the AX. Here I changed the wireless mode to 'Extend a wireless network', selected the network name and checked the 'Allow wireless clients' box. This also updated successfully.
Everything ran correctly and the range of the network was greatly increased.......great, job done...not!
After about 3 hours the iMac lost the connection and the TC disappeared from the Airport Utility pane and refused to reappear. I checked but also couldn't connect or see any network on the laptop or iPhone, so have dismissed a fault with the iMac. I finally got things back up after doing a power reset of the TC, but after a few hours same problem occurred, and occurred and occurred. By clicking the Airport Utility icon on the top right of the screen and following the prompts from 'no Internet connection', I can at least get things up and working without a power reset of the TC, but the connection still drops after 2-5 hours each time.
My first call to Apple Support led to a full reset and re-config of both the TC and AX, setting the extended network up as I had done originally. The only difference was an iMac reset (alt/cmd P&R on power up) and changing the 2.4Ghz channel from 1 to 11. This had no affect and the connection drop-out problem continued.
My second call to Apple Support led to me being passed to a Level 2 Techie, who first suggested that I tried disabling the Guest Network - tried it, and it made no difference. I was then told to try a WDS network, which whilst not losing connection, is slower and has less range than the original extended network and frankly sounds a cop-out.
Has anyone had a similar problem, anyone solved the problems, can anyone offer any help or advice please.. I'd appreciate any input....thanks.

Similar problem here. Cable Modem (Moto SB6120)->AEBS (802.11n dual-band)>AX (802.11n) for wireless connection to MacBook Pro running Mac OS X 10.6.2. AEBS configured as dual-band: 801.11a/n at 5GHZ and 801.11b/g/n at 2.4 GHZ. AX configured to wirelessly extend the AEBS 5GHz 802.11a/n network. I am able to run on the extended 5GHz network (via AX) for varying lengths of time, until the internet connection dies. When this occurs, I am able to switch over to the 2.4GHz network to get back online. Solution up until now has been to unplug the AX, then plug it back in. After the AX restarts, I am able to hop back onto its 5GHz signal and get to the internet. However, the internet connection on this band will drop again after some time.
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To accommodate a large house, thick walls, and detached guest house I setup five airport Ex's using the 'extend network' option. One is connected to the cable modem and the other four extend. All four get green lights. I get good reception in most places but it appears that I often don't connect to the closest AE, even when only a few feet away. In some cases my signal will go from full to zero in the span of a few feet. The network is the all n/5Ghz mode.
When checking the logs of each of the AEs I found that I wasn't connecting to the closest unit and in the case of the farthest AE I never connected to it. When I stepped a few feet away from the farthest AE I lost all signal.
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We have an old Airport Extreme (saucer, 802.11b/g) and an Airport Express (802.11n, b/g compatible). We're using the Extreme as a WDS main, and the Express as WDS relay. Wireless devices that connect to the Internet in our house include a MacBook Pro, a couple of iPhones, an iPod Touch, an XBox 360, and a PS3.
None of these wireless devices are in direct line of sight to the main base station. Typically, our connection to the Internet is decent for the XBox, which has almost a clear line of sight to the relay (Express) base station. On the other hand, the connection for the MacBook Pro, iPhones, and iPod, is extremely slow. Maybe the actual connection speeds are the same for all devices, but at least for the XBox online gaming works. (Haven't tried online gaming with the PS3 yet.)
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Airtunes is off. We've tried setting up the Express base station as a WDS remote instead of relay, no difference. Allow wireless clients is turned on for both main and relay. Channel 1, WPA2 personal security.
Part of the problem may be due to the fact that our house is steel framed so, depending on location, the frame of the house may get in the way of our wireless network. But even if the MacBook is within 2 feet of the Express with NO walls or obstacles in between, the speed remains dismal. The line of sight from the Extreme (main) to the Express (relay) is impeded by a few obstacles but little in the way of walls.
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I understand WDS cuts the bandwidth down substantially, so I decided to unplug the Express and just use the Extreme station, set to create a wireless network instead of participate as main in a WDS network. When I do this I get satisfactory speeds on the MacBook Pro, even sitting at a location where I used to get the slow speeds.
So at first I thought forgetting about WDS completely would seem to be the solution to the problem. That seems to be true for the MacBook, but when the Express is offline and the Extreme is the only base station, the XBox and PS3 now are the devices with a very poor connection to the Internet, as there are 3+ steel framed walls between the base station and the devices. When the WDS network is up, the XBox and PS3 are almost in direct line of sight to the relay station (but then I lose speed on the MacBook and other devices.)
I'm trying to find a solution that allows a good speed connection for all these devices. Right now I have to choose between a regular network with a good connection for my MacBook, or a WDS network that allows gaming but appears to be worthless for the MacBook.
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I'm trying to find a solution that allows a good speed connection for all these devices.
The solution is to run an Ethernet cable from the LAN port on the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) to the AirPort Express (AX). Then you won't need to use WDS and you won't suffer the bandwidth penalty of WDS. Then you would configure both the AEBS and AX to create a wireless network using the same SSID (network name) and wireless encryption type/level/password. The AX should be configured to act as a bridge (not sharing a single IP address).

HT4260 Extended Network: Relay has ghosted "Connect Using:"

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