HT4818 windows 8 drivers bootcamp

where could i download the last drivers for bootcamp (windows 8)?

Start Bootcamp Assistant then select the menu item to download the Windows Support software. But Windows 8 is not supported so there is no Windows 8 Support software.

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  • Installed WIndows 7 & correct bootcamp drivers, windows will not activate "hot fix" or "Support drivers"

    Hello, i hope someone can help,
    i have repeated this whole process 3 times already, it has taken 8 strait hours of my time and i still have had no success.
    QUICK SUMMERY
    To put it simply, After windows is up and running on my mac, the wireless network wont work, so i cannot download the hot fix, and the support driver files from bootcamp will not open because it says they are not "32 Valid" ?. But im using a 64bit disk.
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    so i had to load the Hot Fix onto an SD card along with the bootcamp drivers, then open the hotfix file in windows.
    The first time i was able to install the fix, windows restarted and installed the update, logged back on... and nothing changed.
    At that point i attempted to open the "Setup"  file in the bootcamp support folder, and an error message came up saying it wasn't valid.
    LONGER EXPLANATION OF MY COMPLETE PROCESS: (to cancel out any questions)
    i was able to find my support driver from here:
    http://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-leopard-snowleopard.merged -1.sucatalog
    its some old fashion coded page that has a bunch of apple drivers you can download by pasting one of the codes in your browser,
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    i was able to manually downloaded the drivers instead of  using bootcamp assistant.
    As a side note,
    i was able to download the bootcamp drivers via boot camp assistant after the 5th try,
    so now i have both files that i know are supposed to work 100%. they are loaded and unzipped on an SD card like they are supposed to be for when i open windows.
    I have a Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64 bit CD from the inlaws so i used that CD after i partitioned my drive in bootcamp.
    Bootcamp run like it was supposed to, and i followed step by step instructions in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVfRQ0YIDUI&feature=related
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    it automatically would not detect a network card, so i couldn't connect to the internet and download the apples bug fix. (The Hot fix)
    instead i downloaded the hot fix on a separate SD card, turned windows back on and loaded the hot fix from the SD card.
    Windows installed the hot fix update, restarted, but nothing changed.
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    I completely removed windows 7 vis bootcamp to rinse and repeat hoping i made a simple mistake, but no same thing happened.
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    -im Wondering if i should "Istall important Windows Updates" during the begining of windows preperation...
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    Keith Doherty3 wrote:
    You have been too cleaver for a Boot Camp install.
    The partition system does NOT like anything other than a standard arrangement which creates 4 partitions.
    EFI -200mb
    OSx - Extended Journaled
    Buffer-200mb
    Windows -NTFS
    Return to OSx -Open Boot Camp tool from the utilities folder reset to a single partition.
    Start again and when you get to Windows - Let all the drivers load on the CREATED partition. Use the External for storage !
    Just for your information, as it doesn't seem you have ever used BC.
    When starting the boot camp assistant the first thing it want to do is download the Windows Support drivers and asks you to save them to a DVD, it will also allow you to save them to your OS X hard drive or to any drive connected to the system. Once those drivers are downloaded it then starts the Win install. What you must do is copy those support drives to a media that Windows can See and Read from. Like a DVD or a thumb drive formatted FAT32
    No where in the OPs post does he say anything about fooling with any partitions on his internal drive other then creating the BC partition.
    His problem is he saved those support files to a Mac OS X formatted external drive. Windows can not read Mac Extended (Journaled) formatted drives. So he can't load the drivers for Windows until he copies those support files ove to something that Windows can read.

  • How can I install Mac Mini drivers for Windows 7 32-bit if I didn't install Windows 7 using bootcamp?

    Hello. I have a mac-mini (mid 2010) and with bootcamp, was successfully running XP.
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    I had a partition so thought Bootcamp wasn't required for my needs.
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    I exported my settings to a text file on a USB Stick, then on Windows was able to successfully install AirPort Utility and import the settings.
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    2) How I can install my mac-mini drivers on Windows 7 so I can use my existing wireless network, now that I've gone through the installation without using Bootcamp?
    3) Do I need to set up network adapters and all that stuff in Windows 7 first? If so, how and what drivers do I need?
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    I tried something that worked for me...
    Knowing that after my install of Windows 7 wasn't the correct method (didn't go through bootcamp), and the BootCamp 4.x package wouldn't install under windows 7, I tried reinstalling Bootcamp 4.x in Windows 7 to see what the exact message was it gave me. The message said it couldn't install because of a 32-bit O.S. vs a 64-bit version of the package.
    So that got me thinging - my XP version was 32-bit, and so is my Windows 7 installation. So I tried installing the bootcamp that came with my Mac OS X installation CD. This is bootcamp version 3.1.
    Not only did it install, but it practically took care of everything driver-wise for me. I was then able to see my wireless network, enter my password and I was connected. The only thing else I had to do to get on the Internet was bring IE8 online (guess it ships offline by default). Firewall and Antivirus are now installed, just a few more things to go.
    That's one thing that's just not clear that I'll be sure to note for next time... The Bootcamp packages you download are actually driver packages for Windows. That is where the Windows drivers exists that are necessary to make your Windows 7 PC work on a bootcamp partition!
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    Thanks VikingOSX for your post. I will not need to follow the steps you provided, but they may help someone else as all of these bootcamp issues I've been reading seem to be very unique per installation.
    Hopefully my solution helps others.

  • No NIC drivers for Windows 7 in bootcamp on mac mini

    Hello,
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    When I go into bootcamp on the mac side and try to download windows support software, it tries to download but fails.  I am wondering if I need to upgrade bootcamp on the Mac side but I can't find any download for upgrading it.   
    Is there a download for windows 7 ethernet drivers for the mac mini somewhere or can I download an upgrade to bootcamp on the mac side to see if it downloads the windows support files?
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    I have a 2011 Mac mini (no optical drive). I have a brand new Samsung external DVD drive conntected via USB. I put the Windows 7 DVD (64-bit) in the external drive and the Windows support software is on a USB stick that is in a USB port. I partition the drive in the Bootcamp assistant, then when it reboots all I see is a black screen. Nothing happens.
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  • Multitouch drivers for Windows 8 using Bootcamp?

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  • **I've installed Windows 7 through bootcamp on the new 2012 iMac now I have no network drivers or graphics drivers to run aero! Help! **

    **I've installed Windows 7 through bootcamp on the new 2012 iMac now I have no network drivers or graphics drivers to run aero! Help! **

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  • Aluminum MacBook - Windows XP in Bootcamp - hardware drivers?

    I have recently bought a new silver alumium MacBook and and have installed Windows XP under Bootcamp. When I boot into Windows via bootcamp, the network card and other hardware are not recognised.
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    after installing bootcamp/xp, i couldn't install the drivers. the tech told me to try the other disc. there were two in the leopard package; the second one I tried worked fine. Apple should have color-coded the discs or at least numbered them.
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  • Lee3 May 25, 2012 5:36 AM  I have attempted to download with Bootcamp the Windows 7 drivers but the dowload will not progress past 25%!     Is there someone that can assist me with this issue?  : /

    Lee3
            May 25, 2012 5:36 AM   
    I have attempted to download with Bootcamp the Windows 7 drivers but the dowload will not progress past 25%!
    Is there someone that can assist me with this issue?
    :>/

    How long did you wait for the download to run?  The last time I downloaded the Windows support files for Boot Camp, it was going very slowly, so I swapped away to another task.  Several minutes later I came back and it had moved a little, but not much, so I went on with other things.  When I got back to it several hours later, the download had completed.  Perhaps you just need to let it go overnight to perform the downloads...

  • Can you use Windows 7 Support software (drivers) for Windows XP on bootcamp?

    I'm just wondering, I'm installing windows XP on my mac running lion. I don't have my lion install disk but Im able to install 'windows 7 support software' from bootcamp which I put on a usb flash drive. My friend says I can use that for Windows XP drivers but i'd just like to ask here.
    So basically, can I use windows 7 mac drivers for windows XP? If not is there anywhere I can download them?
    THANKS 

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634

  • I have attempted to download with Bootcamp the Windows 7 drivers but the dowload will not progress past 25%!

    I have attempted to download with Bootcamp the Windows 7 drivers but the dowload will not progress past 25%!
    Is there someone that can assist me with this issue?
    :>/

    You may have better luck posting in the Boot Camp forum, that is where the Boot Camp and MS Windows guru's tend to hang out.

  • Can't Download Windows 7 Drivers for Bootcamp?

    Hi,
    I have been trying since 2 weeks to download windows 7 drivers for bootcamp but the process just gets frozen at that point. I live in a 3rd world country and don't have a good connection. My DSL's speed is 2mb and I can easily downoad movies and hd seasons but because of the awesome servers of Apple, I can't download these much needed drivers.
    Is there some direct linking to these drivers so I can download them or any other alternative?
    Thanks a lot

    Using Boot Camp is the only method to obtain the drivers, be patient and try again.

  • Windows 8 64bit Bootcamp 5 Drivers Install Fail

    2012 Retina MacBook Pro
    I installed Windows 7 64 Bit with bootcamp 4. I then upgraded to Windows 8 64 Bit Pro, using the microsoft installer for windows 8.I then tried to install Bootcamp 5, however the Bootcamp 5 installer states that I must have Windows 7 to install Bootcamp 5. However, Apple lists Bootcamp 5 as supporting Windows 8 64Bit. I have tried Insalling using compatibility mode and running the .msi file from an administrative command prompt. Nothing works. I really don't want to have to reinstall windows 8 to get this to work, as I have many custom programs and settings installed, along with video game saves. I don't understand why the installer would do this.
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    I have read articles online saying that you can use the Windows 8 'upgrade' to install as a new operating system onto a harddrive (or Bootcamp in this case), however it means messing with the Windows files, and could end up in you wasting your money on it.
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  • Bonjour à tous, je viens d'installer windows 7 avec bootcamp.L'installation semble s'être bien passée.Au demarrage du mac quand je choisis window7, alors j'obtiens un ecran noir avec un trait qui clignote et la machine redemarre sans cesse. Une solution?

    bonjour à tous, je viens d'installer windows 7 avec bootcamp.L'installation semble s'être bien passée.Au demarrage du mac quand je choisis window7, alors j'obtiens un ecran noir avec un trait qui clignote et la machine redemarre sans cesse. Une solution?

    But at startup when I choose windows 7 I get a black screen with a clignottant dash and mac starts ever.
    If You Have Problems Installing the Device DriversIf it appears that the Boot Camp drivers weren’t successfully installed, try repairing them.To repair Boot Camp drivers:
    1 Start up your computer in Windows.
    2 Insert your Mac OS X installation disc.
    3 If the installer doesn’t start automatically, browse the disc using Windows Explorerand double-click the setup.exe file in the Boot Camp directory.
    4 Click Repair and follow the onscreen instructions.
    If a message appears that says the software you’re installing has not passed WindowsLogo testing, click Continue Anyway.If you need to reinstall specific drivers, you can install one driver at a time. For example,if your built-in iSight camera isn’t working, you can reinstall just the iSight driver.
    Individual drivers are in the Drivers folder on the Mac OS X installation disc.
    To reinstall a specific driver:
    1 Insert your Mac OS X installation disc.
    2 Quit AutoRun if it opens.
    3 Using Windows Explorer, locate the driver that you want to reinstall.
    4 Open the driver to start the installation.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3301234 
    OS X Lion: About Lion Recovery
    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5034 
    Boot Camp 4.0, OS X Lion: Frequently asked question
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4818
    http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/boot_camp_install-setup_10.7.pdf
    create a Windows support software (drivers) CD or USB storage media
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4407 
    Installation Guide Instructions for all features and settings.
    Boot Camp 4.0 FAQ Get answers to commonly asked Boot Camp questions.
    Windows 7 FAQ Answers to commonly asked Windows 7 questions.
    http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

  • Using Parallels with Windows 7 on Bootcamp caused startup logo to disappear

    Please let me know whether this is just neurotic or what! Windows 7 RC on Bootcamp partition worked great until I installed a trial copy of Parallels 5.0. Even with Parallels, things seemed fine, but I did not like some behaviors of the program when run under Parallels. Using Parallels, I was leery about the issue that when I clicked on the icon of the E-drive (the Macintosh hard drive), I kept getting the message that it needed to be formatted. Certainly I was able to access the files of the MacIntosh through shared folders, and by dragging files from desktop to desktop, but I saw very little advantage of for running Parallels for what I do with the Windows programs, and I did not want to mess up the Macintosh hard drive by an accidental reformat while using Windows. Also I like the fact that if I start Windows from the Bootcamp partition rather than access it via Parallels, Windows is physically well isolated from MacOSX, I do not really have a chance to delete or mess up the Mac hard drive, and at the same time one can access the Mac OSX disk for files that might be needed by dragging these into the Windows partition. Parallels just seemed unneeded.
    Now that I have uninstalled Parallels from the Mac partition and have uninstalled the Parallels programs and tools on the Windows partition, I still have a strange phenomenon that first showed itself when I had first installed the Parallels 5.0 program. Specifically, since the very day that Parallels first was installed and the bootcamp partition was used as the hard drive for Windows run under Parallels, and now even after uninstalling Parallels, the behavior of the Windows flag logo and startup graphics have been changed. A progress bar that previously did not exist before I used Parallels appears on startup, and the moving colored pieces of the Windows flag logo that are supposed to come together as Windows 7 is booted now do not appear during startup.
    To my best knowledge, besides uninstalling Parallels programs, I have also removed manually all parts of Parallels that I can find from Windows, and I even excised hidden files and folders of Parallels found on the C drive. I also sought out PRL files from the Windows partition. I uninstalled and physically removed a program called Stardust (?)... Starcolor (?) or something like that, which was installed at the time Parallels was installed. Folders for this had icons of Macintosh programs. Additionally tried to remove all Parallels, PRL, and Stardust items also from the registry, but there are stubborn ones that are in the "pnp Lockdown files", and some others there that also fail to remove elsewhere. The Lockdown files that do not remove are Parallels files involved in booting, and the others are for a PRL 4600 monitor (???). I was able to remove PRL files in the "Driver Store" folder by changing permissions, and then these were able to be removed. I see no settings anywhere for startup logos in msconfig or when I search through programs in the control panel or in the Windows system folder. I have emptied temporary folders, Prefetch, and have used Windows Live Safety Center to remove stray registry files and to fix issues.
    Attempts to go back to an old restore point do not work and do not get me back to the Windows 7 installation that i used to have. I reinstalled drivers for Bootcamp from the Snow Leopard disk, and finally I tried to repair the installation (by starting up windows using function keys) with at the same time the Windows 7 RC installation disk available for access of files. The option for repair when started up this way is for repair of a non-starting installation. When this is selected, it seems there is nothing found that needs to be repaired. Thus the startup for Windows still has the same behavior. Maybe I do not know how to repair an installation of Windows, and maybe nothing really needs to be changed back to the former condition. Am I just bothering with something that is just fine but which never will be identical to what it was before Parallels?
    The bottom line is that even though things seem to operate fine otherwise, I feel Parallels has somehow adulterated the Windows installation, which I would rather just run as Windows without artifacts from a prior installation that influence it.
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    Please let me know whether this is just neurotic or what! Windows 7 RC on Bootcamp partition worked great until I installed a trial copy of Parallels 5.0. Even with Parallels, things seemed fine, but I did not like some behaviors of the program when run under Parallels. Using Parallels, I was leery about the issue that when I clicked on the icon of the E-drive (the Macintosh hard drive), I kept getting the message that it needed to be formatted. Certainly I was able to access the files of the MacIntosh through shared folders, and by dragging files from desktop to desktop, but I saw very little advantage of for running Parallels for what I do with the Windows programs, and I did not want to mess up the Macintosh hard drive by an accidental reformat while using Windows. Also I like the fact that if I start Windows from the Bootcamp partition rather than access it via Parallels, Windows is physically well isolated from MacOSX, I do not really have a chance to delete or mess up the Mac hard drive, and at the same time one can access the Mac OSX disk for files that might be needed by dragging these into the Windows partition. Parallels just seemed unneeded.
    Now that I have uninstalled Parallels from the Mac partition and have uninstalled the Parallels programs and tools on the Windows partition, I still have a strange phenomenon that first showed itself when I had first installed the Parallels 5.0 program. Specifically, since the very day that Parallels first was installed and the bootcamp partition was used as the hard drive for Windows run under Parallels, and now even after uninstalling Parallels, the behavior of the Windows flag logo and startup graphics have been changed. A progress bar that previously did not exist before I used Parallels appears on startup, and the moving colored pieces of the Windows flag logo that are supposed to come together as Windows 7 is booted now do not appear during startup.
    To my best knowledge, besides uninstalling Parallels programs, I have also removed manually all parts of Parallels that I can find from Windows, and I even excised hidden files and folders of Parallels found on the C drive. I also sought out PRL files from the Windows partition. I uninstalled and physically removed a program called Stardust (?)... Starcolor (?) or something like that, which was installed at the time Parallels was installed. Folders for this had icons of Macintosh programs. Additionally tried to remove all Parallels, PRL, and Stardust items also from the registry, but there are stubborn ones that are in the "pnp Lockdown files", and some others there that also fail to remove elsewhere. The Lockdown files that do not remove are Parallels files involved in booting, and the others are for a PRL 4600 monitor (???). I was able to remove PRL files in the "Driver Store" folder by changing permissions, and then these were able to be removed. I see no settings anywhere for startup logos in msconfig or when I search through programs in the control panel or in the Windows system folder. I have emptied temporary folders, Prefetch, and have used Windows Live Safety Center to remove stray registry files and to fix issues.
    Attempts to go back to an old restore point do not work and do not get me back to the Windows 7 installation that i used to have. I reinstalled drivers for Bootcamp from the Snow Leopard disk, and finally I tried to repair the installation (by starting up windows using function keys) with at the same time the Windows 7 RC installation disk available for access of files. The option for repair when started up this way is for repair of a non-starting installation. When this is selected, it seems there is nothing found that needs to be repaired. Thus the startup for Windows still has the same behavior. Maybe I do not know how to repair an installation of Windows, and maybe nothing really needs to be changed back to the former condition. Am I just bothering with something that is just fine but which never will be identical to what it was before Parallels?
    The bottom line is that even though things seem to operate fine otherwise, I feel Parallels has somehow adulterated the Windows installation, which I would rather just run as Windows without artifacts from a prior installation that influence it.
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  • Many Questions on Windows 8 and Bootcamp

    Hi. I have a couple questions question on windows 8 and bootcamp. I know this is probably on the internet somewhere, but i can't find it anywhere if it is. So please don't strike me down for repeat questions.
    My first question is wether or not widows 8 will run on the current version of bootcamp. I know that it is not fully compatible but can it be installed with few issues since the underlying code for windows 7 and 8 should be relatively similair. I have read a posting on line that says this is possible but i wanted a second opinion. I have a 64 bit version system builder edition shipping to me right now, is this ok.
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    play games and program in win8 never had a cash when I get in and because it's native games run great
    likely when the official apple win8 support comes along I will stop getting the odd crash at boot into win8

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