HT4864 Tried HT4864 but it doesn't work with other mail clients

Migrated to iCloud and using iOS5.1 and Lion on main boxes but I also have older kit. https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4864 indicates I should be able to use standard IMAP clients to access my email (e.g. older OSX, etc) but they all fail to connect and it keeps asking for password (which hasn't changed).
I tried a free iCloud account to pre-test issues and that worked right off with other clients (SL, L, etc) but now I can't use my MobileMe main account on anything other than the web or Lion/iPhone.
If HT4864 is incorrect then please update it or remove it ... very irritating.
Thanks
Neil

Hi
Yes thanks - this is the exact same link I was pointing to. This works perfectly if I create an icloud account from scratch. It doesn't work when I migrate a MobileMe account to iCloud. There is something about having a @mac.com account which became a @me.com and then migrate to icloud is then different.
The @mac.com account does work OK in iCloud but I have not found any combination of parameters which lets me access the exact same account using Snow Leopard, Thunderbird or Entourage - they all compain about the password (same password works perfectly with iCloud, etc).
Something broken in Apple's migration scripts ....
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