HTML Help and Vista

I created a .chm file from RoboHelp HTML Help that
works/displays fine on Windows XP Pro OS. The same file will not
display correctly on Vista. The wrapper and TOC are fine, but the
actual HTML pages do not display (receive a "The address is not
valid" error).
Is anyone else having this problem? I assumed since they are
just HTML pages they would display on any OS.
Thanks for your input!!!

Hi AnnieTechWriter and welcome to our community
Are you running the .CHM off a network drive in Vista? If so,
I would think the same rules apply there as with other versions of
Windows.
Click
here to read more about that.
Assuming you aren't, have you tried right clicking the .CHM
and looking at the properties? Maybe it's treating it like XP does
when you download one from the web. If you do that, you normally
have to right-click and look at the properties and click a button
labeled "Unblock".
Cheers... Rick

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    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TypeLib\{399CB6B4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422DF}\1.0\0\win32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422DF}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422DF}\ToolboxBitmap32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll, 102
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{959F94FD-DD1E-11D2-B559-00105A0422DF}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\TypeLib\{399CB6B4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422DF}\1.0\0\win32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRUregsvr32 C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll\1
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\TypeLib\{399CB6B4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422DF}\1.0\0\w in32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422D F}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422D F}\ToolboxBitmap32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll, 102
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{959F94FD-DD1E-11D2-B559-00105A0422D F}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\TypeLib\{399CB6B4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A042 2DF}\1.0\0\win32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422D F}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{399CB6C4-7312-11D2-B4D9-00105A0422D F}\ToolboxBitmap32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll, 102
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{959F94FD-DD1E-11D2-B559-00105A0422D F}\InprocServer32C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll
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    HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2146773085-1508210334-1857977687-1551\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\RunMRUregsvr32 C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\hhactivex.dll\1
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    File version: 13.10.801.0
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    File size: 460 KB
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    C:\Program Files\RoboHelp Office\RoboHELP
    File version: 13.10.801.0
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    Product version: 13.10.801
    File size: 460 KB
    Date modified: 11/4/2004 10:54:04 AM
    C:\Program Files\RoboHelp Office\RoboHTML
    File version: 13.10.801.0
    Product name: RoboHelp HTML 13
    Product version: 13.10.801
    File size: 460 KB
    Date modified: 11/4/2004 10:54:04 AM
    HH.exe: Here are all the instances of HH.exe on this machine.
    C:\WINDOWS
    File version: 5.2.3790.2453
    Product name: HTML Help
    Product version: 5.2.3790.2453
    File size: 10.5 KB
    Date modified: 4/14/2008 5:42:22 AM
    C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386
    File version: 5.2.3790.2453
    Product name: HTML Help
    Product version: 5.2.3790.2453
    File size: 10.5 KB
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    Troubleshooting Tests and Results
    Test 1: Ran command line: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\HH.exe C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\DSISWHelp.chm
    Result: Browse sequences PRESENT.
    Test 2: Ran command line: C:\Windows\HH.exe C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\DSISWHelp.chm
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
    Test 3: Ran command line: C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-htmlhelp_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_24 4ae8599e6d81bb\HH.exe C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\DSISWHelp.chm
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
    Test 4: Ran command line: C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_microsoft-windows-htmlhelp_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_2e 9f92abd2ce43b6\HH.exe C:\Documents\DSISWHelp\DSISWHelp.chm
    Result: Browse sequences PRESENT.
    Test 5: Deleted HHP, CPD, and created new HTML Help SSL definition. Opened project, compiled with new SSL, opened CHM from Windows Explorer via double-click.
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
    Test 6: RoboHelp install again. Didn't see any "repair" options, so I ran the install over the existing one. Then deleted HHP, CPD, and created new HTML SSL definition. Compiled. Opened the CHM from Windows Explorer via double-click.
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
    Test 7: Edited the browse sequences to see if that would trigger or set a flag. Note: I already compared the "flags" (it's actually a number sequence) in the RHwnd.apj file (via Notepad) to the "flags" in the RHwnd.apj file. While I don't know which one represents browse sequence enabling, the number sequences were identical. Note: I compared RHwnd.apj files pre- and post-Browse Sequence enabling (with no other changes), but the flag values were completely different (it's not a simple 0/1 flag).
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    Test 9: I browsed over our network (via Windows Explorer) to our old RoboHelp x5/RoboSource Control 2.3 server, and launched older CHMs that were generated/compiled in RoboHelp x5 and still sitting on that machine, by double-clicking on them.
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    Test 10: I logged on (via RDS) to our old RoboHelp x5/RoboSource Control 2.3 server (WinXP), and launched older CHMs that were created (and never upgraded) in RHx5 by double-clicking on them.
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    Test 11: I logged on (via RDS) to our old RoboHelp x5/RoboSource Control 2.3 server (WinXP), opened Windows Explorer on that machine, browsed over the network to our new RoboHelp 9/RoboSource Control 3.1 server (Win7), and then launched new CHMs that were generated/compiled in RoboHelp 9 by double-clicking on them.
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
    Test 12: I logged on (via RDS) to our older RoboHelp x5/RoboSource Control 2.3 server (WinXP), copied CHMs that were generated/compiled on our new RoboHelp 9/RoboSource Control 3.1 server (Win7) in RoboHelp 9 over to the WinXP machine, and then launched them by double-clicking on them.
    Result: Browse sequences ABSENT.
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    Hello again
    Hopefully Colum won't mind my offering a few answers here and there,
    RoboFan wrote:
    Thanks for the response, Rick. I appreciate the feedback.
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    I think Colum answered that.
    Where should the 64-bit version of HHActiveX.dll that I subsequently register, reside (i.e., file path)?
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    Likely you will think that answer is a bit snarky. But it's not intended to be that way. I'm just being honest. That's why you have to register it with Windows. The process of registering the DLL tells Windows where it is and how to work with it.
    Should I replace all 32-bit instances of HHActiveX.dll on our 64-bit machines?
    I've never encountered a need to replace versions. But again, likely only Adobe can answer that one with a straight face.
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    Launching the file does nothing to register the dll. That's why there is a separate process. The act of registering should be a one off. I believe what happens is that the Windows Registry is modified with information that HH.exe (64 bit or 32 bit) uses to determine what to do with the dll(s). Again, I'm not an application developer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I can't claim to be one.
    I believe that once you get both dlls properly registered, it won't matter if you launch the 64 bit or the 32 bit version of HH.exe. The Browse Sequence window should then show. (Incidentally, the same dll also manages behavior of the Glossary tab functionality in a CHM)
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