HTML Scraper (section 508 compliancy issue)

Due to Section508 accessibility requirements, I'm attempting to create a "text only" page.
I've got a scraper written in Perl that uses a socket to connect to a url, then scrape all html content.
Unfortunately, when I call a portal (3.0.9) page through the socket/scraper, no HTML content from the portal is returned to the socket.
Is there a way to capture the HTML generated by the portal either through a PL/SQL object, or through some other HTTP protocol?
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Is there a forum for Captivate that specifically addresses Section 508 compliance issues?

I currently use Captivate 5.5 and would like to get ahead of the 508 issues that may arise and be able to go to a forum or site that may have similar questions, and hopefully answers.

No such forum. Shoot your queries here, you might get the required help. There are couple of Section 508 specialists here.
Sreekanth

Section 508 Compliance using Flash

I am working on a website requiring Section 508 compliance
and will have some Flash content. I was wondering how it may be
possible to have text within the Flash file read to the user, much
like text HTML is read to the user using JAWS or a similar type
tool. Thanks so much.

It can be done, but it's a bit of a thorny issue. Here are
some places to
start reading...
http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm ?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00000556.html
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm ?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00000565.html
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_macromediaflash .hcsp
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508 Compliance Issues

Hello All,
I am trying to fix 508 compliance issues for SSRS reports in Pdf format (exported from SSRS toolbar).
I have tried finding the correct cummulative patch or update but don't get the correct one for 2008 R2 version. After some research i also tried to include custom JQuery in Reeports.aspx or ReportViewer.aspx
Can someone please suggest correct direction in fixing the 508 compliance issues?
thanks in advance

Hi newcd,
I just read the VPat for SQL Server 2008 R2. I do not see where there are accessibility issues for the PDF format. Can you please explain?
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/government/products/section-508-vpats/default.aspx#fbid=vv_eVaIKitQ
If this is a bug, to get it fixed you would need to contact customer support.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/profsup/en-au?wa=wsignin1.0
Brad Syputa, Microsoft Power BI This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Need Guidance on Section 508 Compliance (This is a "When" question - not a "How")

Hi, I've been doing a lot of research on Section 508 compliance and I am totally clear on how it is handled in Captivate. I am just not sure when it needs to be implemented.
I have a software demo I am working on that is basically, self-running. The user sits, watches, and listens. There are a few times when there is some user interaction (They have to click on something to go to another section or something), and I totally get implementing the accessibility features for those elements. What I don't get is, am I supposed to add accessibility to all of the other objects that appear on the stage during the self-running part of the demo? For example, if a visually impaired person were listening to my demo (the entire demo is narrated) would they really want their screen reader reading off elements on the screen at the same time?
Anyone who could shed some light on the types of accessibility features that should be enabled during narrated, self-running demos would be greatly appreciated! (Closed Captioning aside)
Thanks!
Vicky

Basically, the only need yo're addressing is for visually impaired users here, correct? Most visually disabled learners are going to turn off the audio on a presentation because it interferes with the screen reader.
The simplest way to test if the demo is accessible is to listen to the narration or read it without the visual cues. If you find there are elements that are not expressed in the narration that are necessary to the demo, you may want to create an accessible text equivalent that describes what is happening on the screen in addition to the narration, insert it in the slide notes for your project and create directions that highlight this option for those learners.

Adobe Section 508 compliance check question

I've run the Adobe Section 508 compliance check on a document. The only errors I receive now are 5 tables without designated table headers. I click on the link to these tables, but nothing happens. It doesn't point me to the tables with the errors. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm using Adobe Pro v9.2.0.

I work at a college and have to create complex Section 508-compliant PDFs throughout the year. Though you've probably upgraded to CS6 or higher, I thought I'd share info on an ID plug-in that is very helpful with determining and setting the reading order from within ID. It is called "FrameMaker," by Rorohiko, and it puts a tiny label on each frame of a page. For example, if I select a frame, the reading order "number" will show on the top right of the frame. So I'll know immediately that I need to fix the order before creating a pdf.
Very inexpensive. Definitely worth the money.
http://www.rorohiko.com/wordpress/2013/09/17/easily-edit-stacking-order-of-page-items/
BTW: If you have to create text files from large ID files, their TextExporter is fabulous.

ApEx and Section 508 compliance

1. Is ApEx section 508 compliant? 
2. Any documentation available on this topic? 
(Section 508: employees with disabilities need to have access to information and data in a manner comparable to the access and use by employees who are not individuals with disabilities) Vasan

Hello,
1. Is ApEx section 508 compliant? APEX can build 100% 508/DDA compliant applications. What Apex does not do is enforce 508/DDA compliance nor does it automatically insert accessibility features. Tab index's shortcuts to skip navigation , proper headings etc. This is left up to the developer to do so that you can properly address your application and or organizations accessibility requirements.
One thing that is sometimes a sticking point is APEX's use of javascript. While you can create an APEX application that does not use javascript it has quite limited functionality. APEX does follow Oracle's stance on accessibility and javascript.
http://www.oracle.com/accessibility/standards.html
JAWS testing has also taken place with APEX and with properly built applications and the applications work great.
2. Any documentation available on this topic? Building an accessible application in APEX is exactly like building an accessible application in any HTML environment. Set your tabindex's correctly, make sure data tables have proper headings , make sure that labels are properly linked to form items and such. There used to be a APEX and accisislbuity blog posting but I don't think it's available anymore. Searching this forum will also return you some results.
Most accessibility issues come from improperly constructed templates, and making sure that page report and label templates have accessible features usually takes care of most issues.
Our VPAT can be found here http://www.oracle.com/accessibility/templates/t780.htm and is currently being updated to cover all versions up to 3.1 , there have only been minor changes.
APEX is also going to start taking advantage of ARIA features http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria so that developers can more easily create rich interactive applications that still can use AJAX and other DHTML features. But there is no reason you can't start including ARIA features in your applications today.
Regards,
Carl
blog : http://carlback.blogspot.com/
apex examples : http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=11933:5

Section 508 compliance web sites info ??

Does anybody know the websites designed in APEX, which is Section 508 Compliant ??
Thnx

Hi,
Yes, I see what you mean now.
Unfortunately there is no easy way of rectifying this in 4.0.2. You will find that the situation is greatly improved from 4.1 forwards. Meaningful ALT's or empty ALT's have been added to appropriate images rendered by the engine for IRR's. For example those particular images make up the contents of a link, where the link text is already visible and available to assistive technologies, so the images are treated as decorative (alt=""), and thus ignored by assistive technologies. Also, I should say, considerable time and effort has gone into fixing accessibility related issues since 4.0.2 (and obviously a huge number of other improvements and fixes), so I would strongly recommend you try and upgrade, if it's at all possible. (Although, I know it's often not that simple.)
Regarding fac586's comments, yes definitely and thank you for pointing out those feature requests. Work in the last couple of releases has certainly been moving toward allowing for greater CSS customisation (although mainly with our native themes admittedly). And we've often talked about and wanting to update IRR's to use cleaner, more semantic HTML, using more modern JavaScript and CSS techniques and allowing greater customisation. (We have to be a bit careful with controls or icons that use CSS-served images, where the meaning is solely conveyed by the image, because of how Windows High Contrast treats them (it ignores them). But that's an aside.)
Sorry again I can't offer you more for 4.0.2, but I would definitely look at trying to upgrade if you can to be sure you're getting the most accessible output.
Also, please feel free to contact me directly if you ever want to ask anything accessibility related and I'd be happy to help.
Regards,
Anthony.

Flex 3 And Section 508 Compliance

Hey guys,
We are developing a new RIA that has pretty complex screens,
navigation system, modal modules loading on top of others, detailed
interaction with grids, trees, etc. and a requirement for making it
508 compliant has come across my desk.
I've done a bit of research on what Adobe has to offer on
their compliance. The components look to be compliant, but from
what I can tell the compliance works best on simple forms and
screens that don't require a great deal of complexity. I'm also
having trouble finding real world examples of people who have
developed complex RIAs in Flex made for 508 compliance.
Silverlight is also being evaluated, and I'm not sure if they
are any better when it comes to the complexity of a deep RIA.
Does anyone here have any experience developing for 508 in
Flex, and if so can you shed some light on what challenges a
developer might face, or any short comings of Flex that would
prevent it from conforming to 508?
I'd also appreciate any RIAs anyone can point me to that are
508 compliant, they seem to be few and far, even the ones listed at
Adobe, most are broken links or no longer available.
Thanks.

That is a concern for state governments as well. We (alaska)
are required to make our (outward facing) sites compliant. Flex
will not allow that unless you stick to the basics ... however, if
you do that, then you might as well script in html as the results
would be basically the same.

Importing from powerpoint...508 compliance issues

Accessibility is important to my agency but importing from powerpoint results in slides a screen reader can't read and the image tags identified in the powerpoint don't show up in published projects. Subject matter experts create the content, I put them in captivate 5.5 to add features and make them play with my LMS (SCORM). Adobe says published SCORM projects are 508 compliant but I can't seem to get them to actually BE compliant. Any ideas? I don't see anything in any of the tutorials or available documentation or from iconlogic.

Hi newcd,
I just read the VPat for SQL Server 2008 R2. I do not see where there are accessibility issues for the PDF format. Can you please explain?
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/government/products/section-508-vpats/default.aspx#fbid=vv_eVaIKitQ
If this is a bug, to get it fixed you would need to contact customer support.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/profsup/en-au?wa=wsignin1.0
Brad Syputa, Microsoft Power BI This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Section 508 Compliance - Spry Menu

I work for the government and am wondering if you could help
me figure out how I can (or if it's even possible) make the spry
menu features in Dreamweaver Section 508 Compliant, so that people
who have screen readers or Java Script turned off would still be
able to access the spry menu items. When we run the pages that have
spry menus through Dreamweaver's accessibility report it just
relays to us the fact that we are using Java script and we need to
provide a "noscript" tag. Do you have any ideas on how we could
accommodate this in our new web site design?
Thanks! Eleanor

See if this article helps you:
http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/accessibility/pop_integrated/index.htm
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ADA & Section 508 Compliance Functional Group - ILLINOIS

Hello,
I have been doing extensive research on iTunes U and how ADA is implemented along with Section 508.
I have seen many other Universities implementing iTunes U but given that they are located in different states, I was thinking we should have functional groups (or special threads) for each state.
I believe this would help invigorate the iTunes U discussion and help create a knowledge base that is applicable to each state.
Thank you.

Hi,
Attached is my zipped project file. I did create my own buttons in Flash - this might be the problem. I have only been problem solving with navigation on the first four slides.
To clarify, hitting the Enter key does engage navigation, however I’m having difficulty controlling the navigation so that it goes to the correct location.
I’m using Captivate v.6 / publishing SCORM 1.2 / Using IE to deliver via the SyberWorks LMS.
Here is question 1:
Question 1
My question targets how to get the enter key to initiate after a successful tab. To be clearer.... I hit tab and I can navigate through all the buttons in the correct order, but hitting enter provides no action. I am getting the yellow highlights around buttons when I tab through. Everything works very well when using the mouse, but blind users don't use mice.
I did create my own animation buttons in Flash and imported them in as animations. I then placed a Click Box behind the button animation to engage the rollover action. Could this be causing problems? The prebuilt (and clunky looking) buttons on the quizzes do work (ie) tabbing to them and hitting enter provides effective navigation.
I'm opting not to use the playback control skin, only my Flash nav bar.
Thanks for reaching out!!
Thanks,
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508 Compliance issue: Subtitling Captivate Slides, esp for Breeze

My organization is designing a software demonstration for the
Department of Labor, so our work must be 508 compliant. I think I
can make our simulation work with screen readers, but I must also
include subtitles for the audio instructions in order to make it
fully 508 compliant. Is it possible to include a separate notes
pane when publishing from Captivate to Breeze?
In the past, when we've published our PowerPoint
presentations to Breeze, the end user is able to determine whether
or not to display the notes for the audio, and when they do, a
separate pane opens underneath the presentation. I can't seem to
duplicate this feature in Captivate. The software we're explaining
takes up a great deal of the screen real estate-- placing text
boxes over the simulation would not work. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks!

Hello again Scott
Here's the deal.
1. The workaround I'm about to present was not developed by
me. It was developed by my friend and colleague John Daigle. I just
don't want to take credit that isn't due.
2. This workaround hasn't seemed to work for some folks. Why
isn't clear yet.
So here goes.
Publish your output to a temporary folder. When you publish,
make sure that you have selected Flash Player 7 where you see Flash
Player Version. It is normally the default, so unless you
specifically changed it, you shouldn't need to change it. But it's
critical that this version appear here. Otherwise, the process is
moot.
After you publish, back in the Captivate project, wherever
you have a full motion clip, insert a blank slide immediately
preceding the full motion clip. Configure the Slide timing to match
the full motion clip. Note the name of the full motion clip.
On the new Blank slide, click Insert > Animation... and
browse to that temporary folder you created earlier when you
published. Insert the corresponding full motion clip you should
find there.
Delete the slide with the original full motion clip.
Rinse and repeat until all slides with full motion clips have
been eradicated and you have new slides consisting of the "other"
full motion clips you published.
Now publish again. Again, be sure you choose Flash Player 7.
Assuming this works for you, you should end up with a single
.SWF that is the sum of all the former .SWF files. The only real
exception to this is if you used some of the supplied Flash
Animation. A few of those here and there will still result in
additional .SWF files.
Give that a go and let us know how you fare. As I said
earlier, others have tried this and it failed for them. Which
puzzled me, because it works for John and myself.
Cheers... Rick

FrameMaker 8 - need new Section 508 guidelines

Dear Adobe,
My company may be interested in purchasing Adobe FrameMaker 8.
I need supporting information for Adobe FrameMaker 8 and Section 508 compliance.
The following link lists ONLY Adobe FrameMaker 7 anad Section 508:
http://www.adobe.com/resources/accessibility/tools/vpat/index.html
Could you please provide Adobe FrameMaker 8 and Section 508 compliance documentation?
Please also update your Web site with this information.
Sincerely,
Patricia
[email protected]

Patricia,
You posted your message into a FrameMaker user-to-user forum, not any kind of official Adobe area. Also, it isn't clear from your message whether you're asking if FrameMaker itself is 508 compliant, or if you can use it to produce 508 compliant documentation.
So you may want to go back to the Adobe site and find http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/ and call the 800 number on that page.
Cheers,
Art

Why can't I choose Section 508...

Hi,
I am trying to run a Section 508 Compliance Check using Adobe Acrobat Pro XI and do not have the option to change the name in the accessibility checker.
I can only choose categgories, not specific names.
Thanks for whatever help you can give!

Run the full check, but with the understanding that the Acrobat XI checker, while a big improvement over the X version, is still not very thorough. Selecting a subset of test criteria would merely render the checker even more inadequate.
For a much better PDF accessibility checker download the excellent, free PAC 1.3 from the Swiss foundation Access for All. You can find it here http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/pdf-lab/pdf-accessibility-checker-pac/dl132.html. PAC 1.3 tests for WCAG 2.0 compliance, but the 508 checklist maps to WCAG 2.0. You may notice that a newer version, PAC 2.0, is available but is still in beta and tests for more-difficult -to-meet ISO 14289 compliance. If you are interested, you can find the 508 PDF accessibility checklist here http://www.hhs.gov/web/508/accessiblefiles/checklistpdf.html.
Finally, even the best automated checker can get you no more than about half way to an accessible PDF. Automated tests can verify that a PDF is tagged using correct syntax, but cannot determine if the tags are otherwise correct, ensure correct reading order, or verify that alt text is meaningful – to site just a few examples. Careful, knowledgeable manual inspection of the tag structure is essential. The PAC 1.3 screenreader preview is a big help in the necessary manual inspection – it lets you see what an assistive technology user would hear.
Hope this helps.
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