Htt Xp And Hal....

THIS IS A COPY OF A THREAD I WAS POSTIN AN ANSWER TO, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BENEFIT A WIDER AUDIENCE.(0X0000000A)
hi, i have found an interesting concern about windows xp and HTT.
the HAL is decided on install, you can install with ht enabled, but if you dissable this in the bios later, your pc will still use multiprocessor HAL which will make the pc run hotter..
this is due to hal is non changeable by the operator and is only configured on install of xp.(HTT dissabled= uniprocessor HAL, HTT Enabled= Multiprocessor HAL)
so you install xp with HT on, and later dissable it due to coruption or what ever.. your pc will still run the HAL MULTIPROCESSOR DRIVERS and no longer enter sleep mode where the cpu will slow down at low useage state causing it to constantly consume power, thus heating the cpu more than when HTT is enabled.lol.
but, there is another twist in this little problem.
windows xp (before sp1 was added) installed all the correct HAL drivers for intel processors, BUT SP1 over writes these with the wrong ones!! namely ntoskrnl.exe
and windows have no fix for this, only a work around. which is
1. wait for the new service pack.
2. re-install xp with/ without HTT enabled, which ever you require...
BUT!!! if you have a version of xp, or xp pro with sp 1 on it, it won't matter, because the kernal drivers are wrong..
how i laugh...
now this doesn't answer my problem of "how the hell do i get xp to run HTT, but it does let me know that microsoft are at the bottom of it all...

well... i said it many times before... but it worked...
i now have ht enabled and a nice and quiet pc...i feel liberated..
i can now say i have the pc i paid for..
sorry msi for doubting you
and reilly, you rock.
thank's for keepin me cool and thank's for the offer of help..
i may still need it tho,lol it has done this to me before.
today it works.. 2morrow.. back to the drawing board.
but as for now.. i love my nice and quiet pc...

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Last edited by sollaa (2009-09-24 23:45:13)

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Hey fellow Archers,
Sorry if this is a bit of a Noob Question.
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Mac Tzu wrote:
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5
6 
8
9 
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fuscia wrote:
Gullible Jones wrote:If you have hal on your daemon list, you don't need dbus; the hal script starts that automatically.
whoa! either way, that's good to know.
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i appreciate the answers. i try to read about this stuff, but it can be so foreign, at times, i still have no sense of judgment about it.
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Inxsible wrote:Try this :: http://allanmcrae.com/
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I was refering to flaging the initscripts package, not the hal package.
It's my impression that udev hot plugging as well as kde and gnome infrastructure (therefore all of the applications, not just if that's your desktop) all rely on hal at runtime.
I still haven't quite run it to ground, but I also believe that the arch boot proccess uses hal as part of hardware discovery.
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