Huge latency on audio Input Monitoring came outta nowhere!

Hey guys. Bit stumped here..never had latency issues before..
So heres my setup, 8channel mixer into a M-Audio Firewire Audiophile, which is like a DJ interface, but meh, it gets the job done alright.
My project is, Track 1 Superior Drummer, Track 2 - EZPlayerPro, track 3-7 Guitar tracks.
Now it plays back great. But when i try to record, nooo way! The latency is terrible! cant follow the beat! And the part that has me confused is, ive changed nothing! ive added nothing to the channel strips, i dont have any crazy long audio going on here, this is just a scratch track i record ideas on...
Ive played with the buffer a bit, and havent gotten anything but making it worse
Basically i started an idea yesterday, walked away, worked on it throughout, came back today, and its there on not just 1 project, but all of them.
Yes ive tried the reboot, i hoped it was that simple
Anybody any suggestions?

is PDC set to "ALL"?
are you run with Multiouts instruments?
I suggest to use Lowlatency mode
or this set
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I am having a problem where I can always hear the signal being passed to the external inputs of my soundcard, regardless of whether or not Software Monitoring is enabled, in fact, Logic doesn't even have to be open! Due to this fact I believe this is an OSX issue, however, since it is effecting Logic I am hoping someone here can assist, as I am at my wits end.
My setup:
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2gig RAM
OS X 10.4.4
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Emagic a2|6
I have tried reinstalling the a2|6 software thinking the problem may have
been corrupted drivers, but to no avail. I have tried to mess around both in
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either.
Weak sauce.
Anyway, I'm sure this is something simple and I am just doing something
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do you have a external mixer mixerboard ?
or is your source plugged straight into your interface ?
maybe its not software monitoring it might be hardware monitoring so check your mixer or if not check the control panel of your interface because you can use it as a virtual hardware monitoring when you change few settings like...
in the Patch bay of delta 1010LT i can set...
Analog output 1/2 to Monitor Mixer,then i'll set the monitor mixer to settings like ...
Master on full
Software input 1/2 set to full( which is what is coming out of logic or the mac )
Software input 3/4 set to full or off ( which is what sends to my TC Electronics Finalizer 96K)
Analog IN 1/2 and 3/4 set to full ( which is automatically receiving the signals from external source even if i don't open any applications)
S/PDIF also set to full ( this monitors the output of my TC Electronics Finalizer 96K )
so check your interface to make sure none of this is not the problem if you don't want to continuously monitor the input source
using my setup means it bypass the software monitor maybe that what the problem is for you
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Audio Input Monitoring

I am unable to monitor audio in Logic 8. I can monitor MIDI fine and can also monitor audio in standalone applications such as Amplitube. I can hear the audio played back when i have recorded it, but not in the monitoring mode. I have checked obvious solutions..... stuck.

right. but its not software that is the issue.. its guitars, and mics..
Er... I'm not sure you grokked what I was talking about. Audio interfaces do one of two things, when it comes to monitoring signals you are recording (guitars, mics and stuff).
Either it is doing direct monitoring, where it's using the interface's inbuilt mixer to pass the audio coming in on it's inputs directly to its outputs (and then on to your speakers).
Or we do software monitoring, where the signal comes into it's input, it passes those signals to Logic, which then routes it via Logic's mixer back to the audio interface and on to your speakers.
So if you want to monitor through Logic, Software Monitoring must be turned on in your audio preferences.
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This is very silly to have to go through every single day......
Anyone have any ideas?
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{quote:title=45rpm wrote:
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This is where the Roland Toslink output is plugged into. There is no separate adapter needed. The iMac is able to understand the standard Optical frames via the fibre optic cable. We need to move on from this connection as it works as designed.
{quote:title=45rpm wrote:
I don't understand the scenario you're describing. Is the instrument generating the sound a Logic software instrument, or one of your hardware synths? What happens if you press a key on the Caps Lock keyboard, instead of pressing a key on your synth?
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I apologize in advance if i am not patient enough and i appreciate all the help you guys are offering... but why would you ask about pressing a key on the Caps Lock keyboard? As explained earlier, in addition to generating music from its own sound engine, the Synth supplies the MIDI data straight into the iMac via USB. The iMac sees the synth Keystrokes in perfect realtime and plays whatever instrument I select in Logic...in perfect real time. Its the Analog being generated from the synth engine that gets delayed until I putz with perhaps the .plist file. (read Eriksimon's comment above). In my very first post I explained that I had selected a Yamaha Piano (a Logic Instrument) and a Steel Guitar (An instrument on the Synth) setup. So when I hit a middle C on the Synth, the Logic Instrument Yamaha AND the Synth Instrument Guitar should sound at the same time. But they don't...until I putz with the .plist file. Hope this clarifies the confusion?
Help me out here Eriksimon. You seem to get what i am faced with.
{quote:title=45rpm wrote:
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} {quote}
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Hi!
First part:
Input Monitoring. I am used to Input Monitoring (live signal) overriding printed material (regions). I thought that if I had Auto Input Monitoring disabled, and if I would engage Input Monitoring on an Audio Track, ONLY the Live input would pass; any regions on the track would not sound...put simply, engage Input Monitor flicks a switch from regions to Live Input. But, it does not. The ONLY ways I have found to have JUST the live signal is to mute all regions, or actually record on the track. How SHOULD it work?
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Hi!
Thx for the reply! I seem to be find the odd questions...
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Click on the track with the regions you want to solo/mute->all regions in that track get selected->use the keycommands for Solo (S by default) and Mute (M by default). Then only the highlighted regions in that track will play/mute
That works well, and I could handle using it as a workflow. But, when one wants to retain individual mute states of specific regions on that track, this would alter that when unmuting. The tip below would be a viable alternative, but...
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Also have you tried the two different modes for Solo/Mute which can be set in Logic Audio Prefs? "CPU save mode" makes the tracks assigned to the same Audio object independent from each other - "Fast"-mode makes them all dependent, so try CPU save mode.
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I've just bought my first mac along with Logic Studio in preperation for my Sound Technology university course in September. I'm used to using Logic 7 in college, so Logic 8's taking me some time to get used to. Basically, I'm trying to record a guitar part and can't figure out for the life of me how to monitor the audio input in realtime.
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Hello all. I have a question regarding Airport Express's audio transmitting capabilities. First, I recently purchased an Airport Express to expand the wifi range in my new house. The house is one floor, and my Linksys N router is located on the other side of the house from my bedroom. The signal from the Linksys is spotty at best in the bedroom, so I have the Airport Express connected via CAT5 in bridge mode in my bedroom. The signal is great and everything has worked fine so far with that setup.
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My question is this...if I purchased a 2nd Airport Express, is there a way that I could connect the audio output to an AE (through the 3.5 mm jacks) by the baby's camera, and then have the audio wirelessly transmitted to the AE in our bedroom (hooking up a small set of speakers to the AE in the bedroom as the output for the audio)?
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Latency can arise form several sources besides the I/O buffer.
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I could be wrong, there's a couple of ways to test this.
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LogicX Rec Problem. I can't hear while recording no matter I turn on Auto Input Monitoring at menu or channel. On certain songs I could thru AUX to REC, my L7/8/9 procedure. Now, inconsistent, not work. Any help?

Logic X Recording Problem
I can't hear (ex.) voice back while recording no matter I turn on Auto Input Monitoring at Record Menu or Channel Strip.
On certain old projects I could when thru AUX to REC, which was my L7/8/9 procedure.
Recording takes place on a consolidated session, all audio tracks with no latency, which actually happens only it can't be heard.
Monitoring is very inconsistent and in fact doesn't work at all. Any help?
Mac Pro 2010 2x2.66 12 Core 32GB OSX 10.9.5 SSD 480
Recording on HD 1TB, Fireface 800

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3. Tried the 1/8" audio input, problem persists.
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