HVX200 - 720/24pN - Raid or Drive

OK, so I have searched and read a lot of enourmously helpful info on shooting 24pN and editing it in FCP. So I have one final question.
Can I edit DVOPRO HD 720/24pN footage on a 17"MBP with FCP5.1.1 and 2 gigs RAM with a G-DRIVE (not G-RAID)? I have 2 250 gig G-DRIVEs that we have because we need to travel with them and they take up less space and weigh less than G_RAIDs. Will they be fast enough on FW00?
Thanks
K

DVCPRO HD at 24PN will be fine on firewire 400 drives.
Shane

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I've finished my P2, 720 24pn documentary in Avid and want to deliver a 1080 24p master on hard drive to put to HDCam tape for a Da Vinci color correction.
I've exported a quicktime reference to After Effects and nested the 720 project in a 1920 x 1080 composition (to include all the 4k photos and titles).
Is this the best way to upconvert 720 to 1080? It looks great...
And is using the DNxHD 175 10 bit codec for the quicktime export as good as an uncompressed 10 bit quicktime? The resulting file size on a 100 minute file is 150 GB's vs 1.5 TB's.....
I have searched and searched the forum, but it's not easy to find the Truth!!

FYI for anyone wondering in the future, this is what my Da Vinci artist said:
"At my day job, doing HD spots for Sony Pictures (who are very particular about picture quality), the editors are also using Avid's DNX compression. The settings they are using (at 1080 lines) are: 175X for 23.98 and 220X for 59.94. We've run tons of resolution tests and the clients find this acceptable quality for big media buys (Superbowl, American Idol, etc.)."
Another said that if my original content was film he would go uncompressed QT, but since it was P2, DNxHD 175 is the way to go.
And this article (now a year old) evaluated DNxHD vs ProRes422 and Uncompressed.....
http://www.studiodaily.com/blog/?p=97
excerpt:
As a control, I used Apples Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 codec. I rendered the animation to the ProRes 422 (HQ), ProRes 422, Avid DNxHD 175, Avid DNxHD 115, and Avid DNxHD 36 codecs. (Note: The DNxHD flavors are specific to 1080/24p format video. The 30i versions would be DNxHD 220 and 145.)
After re-importing the results in After Effects, I placed each file in a composition along with the Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 version and used the Difference transfer mode to illustrate where the compressed image varied from the uncompressed. The results were quite surprising.
The DNxHD 175 files difference from the uncompressed was barely visible to the naked eye, but the ProRes 422 (HQ) codec showed significant differences. In fact, in my test, the DNxHD 115 codec also outperformed the ProRes (HQ).

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I'm considering different new Mac options to replace my first gen Mac Pro. The new and most outfitted iMac seems like a good solution for my mostly Photoshop work. But, is the new iMac compaticle with Thunderbolt external RAID multi drive enclosures?

Sure, why not contact OWC (www.macsales.com) where they sell RAID solutions for Macs. Because they specialize in Macs they test every product they sell.

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Initially when I looked in Disk Utility it appeared that only one of the 2TB drives had "Failed" next to it but now after a reboot "Failed" is next to both drives.
My initial hope was that one of the drives had failed and I'd be able to just replace that drive and the RAID System would rebuild from the other drive.
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TommyH wrote:
My initial hope was that one of the drives had failed and I'd be able to just replace that drive and the RAID System would rebuild from the other drive.
RAID 1 just copies the same data to two (or more) drives at the same time, it's only for mission critical data loss requirements where a drive failure during writing would be catastrophic. Like taking purchasing orders or getting a phone call from ET for example.
RAID 0 is dangerous as the data path is separated to how many drives in the RAID 0 set, one drive glitches and all data is lost. But provides insane speeds.
RAID 5 is a much more reliable, it combines many drives (4 or more for more speed) splitting the data path but also has redundancy factor that if a drive dies it can be replaced and the data is recovered from the other drives. Usually a RAID 5 is in a external enclosure with it's own cooling and hardware controllers, not software based RAID where your CPU is being overloaded.
There are other forms of RAID some combinations like RAID 1+0, RAID 6, 10 and so forth, you can find out more about the more eclectic RAID types online.
RAID 5 is more ideally suited to video requirements for data storage, with perhaps a RAID 0 as a scratch disk or a RAID 0 + 1 (the RAID 0 is mirrored to another RAID 0) if your going to take a while working on it that increases the potential of failure.
Once the work is completed, it's sent to the RAID 5 where it's safe with it's redundancy and speed.
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You have two drives and two chances to recover the data off off, simply disconnect one data drive and reboot, see if it will mount and or you can repair the drive in Disk Utility.
If not pull one drive out and stick another blank one in there and download Data Rescue and simply recover the files to the new blank drive. DR works by simply reading the files themselve, not the file struture or anything else.
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Also Carbon Copy Cloner makes "hold option" bootable OS X boot drive clones, which TimeMachine doesn't.
Also TM kicks in what, like once a hour? It's likely what caused your issue, CCC will work when you schedule it. TM is for consumers, not video pro's like yourself.
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Playback of 720 24pn footage

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Mark

That may be as I did not change the settings on the camera when I rented it. I saw that it was 720 24pn and expected that would be ok. Guess I'll have to manually speed the footage up. It's a good thing I didn't need the audio.
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HVX200- 720/60P in 23.97 timeline... ramp problems.

I am having difficulty trying to modify the speed of my timelapse shots (1F per 1sec) that were taken in the 720/60P mode in a 23.97 timeline. The clips play fine (after rendering) when I do not modify the speed.
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Understanding that I can not use the intervalometer function (1 frame per 1 second) in 24PN or 24P.
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Boot from external raid hard drive in new iMac 2012

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Settings for a 720/24pn downconvert to SD 29.97?

I have a 720/24pn sequence in FCP. I want to output it to a miniDV tape. I know that I can drop the sequence into a DV sequence in FCP, but won't it look better if I use Compressor to do the downconvert? Intstead of having FCP add the pulldown on the fly as I output?
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Actually, the only way you can add pulldown - at least the standard 2:3:2:3 pulldown that most folks desire - within the confines of Final Cut Studio is via FireWire output. If you dropped your 24pN footage into a 29.97 timeline, you'd get what some folks generously call 2:2:2:4 pulldown. To be more honest, FCP simply doubles every 4th frame as the 5th frame. Most (battle-hardened) post professionals consider that nasty.
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960x720 video from shooting 720 24pn? shouldn't it be 1280x720?

I'm confused, i use to shoot footage on an HVX in 720 24pn, and when i'd edit it and export it in final cut it was always 1280x720.
now all of a sudden, all my footage is coming into final cut as 960x720. what's the deal?
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is 720 footage suppose to be in 1280x720 or 960x720?

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720 24pn to 1080i

Hi!
I'm shooting a project with a Panasonic HVX200A and I'd like to shoot 720 24Pn(Native) because of the longer record times. However, my final deliverable is HDCam 1080i. Could I just edit in an Apple Prorez 1080i 60 timeline, or would this "look weird" or be sub-optimal? I guess I could shoot 1080 24, but the short record times would be problematic. The shoot is the day after tomorrow, so any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks!
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www.dangertree.com

With P2, FCP imports what you shoot. If you shoot 24pn, then you are shooting 23.98 native, and FCP will import it as such. The main issue you will face is that that format in a non-drop frame timecode ONLY. It does not drop frame timing. This makes timing the show tricky, but not impossible. If you require commercial breaks to have specific timing, that is another matter.
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Hi,
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