Hyper-V 2012 R2 - live migration dynamic memory issue

Hi..
we use a two node hyper-v cluster.
On each node running 5 vm that shared the 64GB system memory.
The vms are configured to use dynamic memory. The sum of the startup (min) memory of the 10 vms are currently 50 GB.
So now our problem:
If we try to drain roles on node A for maintenance purpose two vms are still on node A because they wasted currently each 25GB memory and so on node B is not enough free memory to host this vms.
That sounds logical
But as all vms configured to use dynamic memory they should shrink their memory to get enough space for all vms? If we shutdown all vms, move it to one node, then everything works fine.
Is it by design that live migration do not trigger the vm to shrink their memory?
Best regards, Alexander Zirbes

Hi Alexander,
Dynamic memory means that memory can increase or decrease based on the demand of the VM, not based on the load of the Hyper-V host. If the gust OS of VM dont need that much memory, memory will be released. I dont think live migration has any role shrinking
the allocated memory of a VM.
Since you are using two node cluster, you should only load 50% resourses on each host so that incase of a failure of second node, the first node can have all the VMs.
This calculation will become more effective if you have more nodes. I am having a  six node cluster and I load each host upto 80% so that in case of a single node failure, the VMs can be split on other five nodes without issues.
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    Processor 1 4 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 1 9 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 1 12 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 2 1 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 2 4 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 2 9 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor 2 12 Good, In Use Yes 713756-081 DIMM DDR3 16384 MB 1600 MHz 1.35 V 2 Synchronous
    Processor Name
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GHz
    Processor Status
    OK
    Processor Speed
    2400 MHz
    Execution Technology
    12/12 cores; 24 threads
    Memory Technology
    64-bit Capable
    Internal L1 cache
    384 KB
    Internal L2 cache
    3072 KB
    Internal L3 cache
    30720 KB
    Processor 2
    Processor Name
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GHz
    Processor Status
    OK
    Processor Speed
    2400 MHz
    Execution Technology
    12/12 cores; 24 threads
    Memory Technology
    64-bit Capable
    Internal L1 cache
    384 KB
    Internal L2 cache
    3072 KB
    Internal L3 cache
    30720 KB
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    Steve

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