Hyperion Planning vs SAP BW-BPS

Does anyone have any thoughts on the major Pro's/Con's of Hyperion Planning vs. SAP BW-BPS? Specifically, performance and usability (e.g. user friendly interface) of BPS.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Charlotte

Hi Charlotte,
I think Performance of BW-BPS is based on many criteria where even BW design also matters, some of those areas like.
1. Good Planned Design, Understand the Flow from Actual to Plan and Data required for Planning.
2. Try to minimize number of USER EXIT
3. Good ABAPer Can write better USER EXIT than Entry level so tuned EXIT Program will also improve performance.
4. Follow the correct sequence of Planning
There is GO LIVE Check documents for BW-BPS which will also mention check point for BW -BPS Performance . Follow those it's very helpful.
Hope it helps,
San.

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Webinar: Business Planning in SAP BW - The SEM-BPS transition to BW-BPS

SAP NetWeaver Know-How Network Webinar:
Business Planning in SAP BW - The SEM-BPS transition to BW-BPS
Wednesday 14 July 2004
11 a.m. EDT
On Wednesday 14 July, Lori Vanourek, a NetWeaver BI RIG Consultant, hosts the webinar titled Business Planning in SAP BW - The SEM-BPS transition to BW-BPS as part of the ongoing SAP NetWeaver Know-How Network Webinar Series.
Heres how Lori describes her webinar presentation:
Business Planning is an integral part of SAP NetWeaver '04. Join us as we share SAP's product roadmap for business planning and discuss the transition of BPS from SAP SEM to SAP NetWeaver '04.
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Hello Marc and Sander,
I checked the document status and tested the link myself using a PC external to the SAP environment and did not have any problem. You do have to be logged in to do this. If you are not, you should see a page that will appear which says that a login is required to use that feature. On some occassions, users see an error message instead. I apologize for that.
Kind Regards,
David

SAP BW-BPS (Business Planning and Simulation)

Hi All,
Can anybody tell me, what will be the impact on SAP BW-BPS (Business Planning and Simulation) after upgradation fron SAP BW 3.5 to SAP BI 7.0.
or what all care need to be taken before upgradation?
Regards,
Prateek

Please allow me this opportunity to point out that "upgradation" and "updation" are not real words. The correct terms are "upgrade" and "update".
Seems trivial, but I've seen them make their way into names of workflow steps and class methods.
Yes, English is not logical!
creation - yes
deletion - yes
updation - no It's update.

Hyperion Planning and Budgeting

Hi all,
I want to know about the hyperion planning and budgeting. Please guide me in it...

Hi,
you can do the same work in SEM-BPS as with Hyperion.Only difference being the integrity of the various modules.As well the integrity of SEM with BW is much more powerfull and versatile than Hyperion with BW.Only reason being its a third party software. Hyperion is another BI tool independant of SAP BW. It is not the same tool than the BEx analyzer used only for querying BW data
Suggestions:
BW data could be reported from Hyperion by connecting the system with the right adapter; the other way around isn't possible (querying hyperion data via BW) except by setting the hyperion DB as a DB/UD Connect source system and having remote IProviders on-top of it.
If you want ,you'll synchronize BW metadata in Hyperion and then create a report in Hyperion which will retrieve data from a BW query released for OLE/DB for OLAP (query properties/extended)
now you can access any BW query / cube / multiprovider in BW
Remember that hyperion has been bought by Oracle some months ago...
http://www.hyperion.com/solutions/environment/sap.cfm
Hope this helps,
Regards
CSM Reddy

Function types for Balance Sheet Planning missing in SEM-BPS 6.0

Hi BPS experts,
After upgrading our BI-system from SEM 4.0 to SEM 6.0 (level 10) as part of the upgrade from BW 3.5 to BI 7.0 (level 15), the BPS function types for balance sheet planning are not available in the planning environment (Transaction code BPS0).
According to the SAP Library the balance sheet planning functions in SEM-BPS comprises of 6 standard function types - one of them is "Depreciation":
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/0a/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm">help.sap.com -> Business Planning and Simulation (BW-BPS)</a>
Menu path: Business Planning Functions -> Functions for Balance Sheet Planning
In our existing SEM 4.0 we are using "Depreciation" and the functions based on this function type are of course short dumping when executed in our upgraded system (SEM 6.0) as the function type does not exist here.
Odd though - we do have the function type "Allocation" available in SEM 6.0, which should be delivered with SEM together with the Balance Sheet Planning function types (It is listed directly under "Business Planning Functions" in the SAP Library) .
I have tried to figure out whether we missed out on activating something during or after the system installation, but our basis consultant has not found anything in the installation guides related to this issue. Also I was wondering whether it could be a simple matter of activating some Business Content but without any luck.
Does anybody know why the Balance Sheet Function Types are not available in SEM-BPS 6.0?
Kind regards,
Lars
PS: Our system status is:
SAP_ABA 700 0013 SAPKA70013 Cross-Application Component
SAP_BASIS 700 0013 SAPKB70013 SAP Basis Component
PI_BASIS 2005_1_700 0013 SAPKIPYJ7D PI_BASIS 2005_1_700
ST-PI 2005_1_700 0005 SAPKITLQI5 SAP Solution Tools Plug-In
SAP_BW 700 0015 SAPKW70015 SAP NetWeaver BI 7.0
FINBASIS 600 0010 SAPK-60010INFINBASIS FINBASIS 600 : Add-On Supplement
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 Lars B Rasmussen

Hi Lars,
It seems not all the planning function from SEM BPS are available in BW BPS. Please check the links below: -
what is the difference between BW 3.5 BPS and SEM BPS 4.0
BW- BPS and SEM- BPS
SEM-BPS VS BW-BPS
BCS Doc
Regards,
SK

Oracle Hyperion Planning and Budgetting

We are planning to use the Oracle Hyperion Planning and Budgetting Product for our organization.And we are in the process of finding the best practice OR best suite Database software for Oracle Hyperion.
Which database software product is best suite for Oracle Hyperion Planning and Budgetting?
Our Source Systems
Oracle E-Business Suite R12
PeopleSoft Campus Solution
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Hi,
you can try the following:
Go to [http://service.sap.com/bosap-support] and navigate to Documention->Product Guides . Select SAP BPC and you should get the links to the related documentation.
If you still get problems to access it, you must issue a message to SAP (service.sap.com/support) asking them to allow you accessing the documentation on SAP BPC.
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Stratos

Details abt Hyperion Planning and Budgeting

Hi Experts,
I want the entire details about Hyperion planning and budgeting for my project. I don't now anything about the Hyperion. I am in SAP BI. Please guide me in this matter...

try this :
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E10530_01/welcome.html
and http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E10530_01/doc/nav/portal_5.htm for manuals and
http://edelivery.oracle.com/ for full access to software

What is sap BW-BPS?

hi Guys,
Can any body explain me what is SAP BW-BPS and could you pls. expand this BPS.
Sunil.

HI Sunil,
BPS is business planning simulation and this is new functionality which is available since SAP BW 7.0 (which is now called SAP BI business inteliigence then SAP BW).
Earlier BPS used to be aprt of SEM and now it is also part of BI.
This is used for doing key figure planning and budgeting / costing for the various marketing campigns that take place in a company.
CRM and BI BPS give thecustomer a very good advantage in planning his campaigns sucesfully.
Thanks
Srini

Error WHile creating a User in Hyperion Planning

HI,
Please someone guide since im facing this problem for a longtime.
I created a user in Planning webpage and refreshed the security filters.
When i tried to login using planning webinterface, it showed an error "User priscila_monsanto does not exist in the domain or the password is incorrect"
And i could able to find an exception in the file"Hyperion Planning-err.log" present in Jrun path of the planning server.
And when i logged into the admin console for the plannng cube, i found user anme in the security-->users field and there is no filters assigned to the user.
Please help me.
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at com.thortech.xl.adapterGlue.ScheduleItemEvents.adpADDUSERTOADGROUP.implementation(adpADDUSERTOADGROUP.java:49)
This is definitely a Custom Adapter because OOTB Adapter name is adpADCSADDUSERTOGROUP and NOT adpADDUSERTOADGROUP
So, it is your custom code and in the code you are passing incorrect value of the Active Directory Child process form...
The correct name is UD_ADUSRC and the Group Name column name is UD_ADUSRC_GROUPNAME.
While you are passing UD_AD_CHILD as the child process form and UD_AD_CHILD_GRP_NAME as Group Name column name..
Use OOTB Adapter... Correct these discrepancies... Your addition of group will work
And since you are creating custom adapter, you need to be more careful and remain consistent throughout..
Then if you want to use UD_AD_CHILD_GRP_NAME, use it everywhere consistently... Pass only this value in the adapter...
And even in lookups, if any... Search everywhere... Keep things consistent... They will work... Because good news is that you are able to create user in AD via Java Code...
And if any post is even slightly helpful, it is a good habit to mark it with helpful or correct ... And also mark the entire question as answered so that other people also are benefited.

Not able to see data in Hyperion Planning data forms.

Hi ,
I created Hyperion planning EPMA application and loaded data in to it. But I am unable to see data in my data forms? Please give me solution for this?

Hi,
Here there are 2 things, once your epma heirarchy is ready did you deploy it against your planning App ? and incase if you haven't deployed your planning application, then old outline would be existing in Essbase and if you load data for old outline it will still take into but when you deploy the database gets restructured and older data gets restructured/removed.
Before going onto that level first check if your load data to essbase completed successfully. and did you load data for the combinations on dataform ? ? Try manually inputting a number through data form and submit and do a refresh to see if value comes up. ? Check your data form settings , if you have enables suppress missing rows/blocks.
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Amith

How to find maximum number of users we can assign for Hyperion Planning.

HI,
How to find maximum number of users we can assign for Hyperion Planning.i.e., how to find license limit in hyperion planning 11.1.2.1.
In Essbase propreties, the system is showing maximum planning users could be 65535.
what would be the number for concurrent scenario?
Thanks
Giri
Edited by: Giriprasad on Jun 18, 2012 2:18 AM

The number of users would be based on your license agreement with Oracle, the system is not aware of your license agreement so it is up to you to stick to it.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Unable to log in to Hyperion Planning App Wizard

Dear All,
Unable to log in to Hyperion Planning App Wizard. This is my new installation. There is no error message in the planing windows. After click on log on button, the page just getting refresh and its come to same page only.
errors in in the planning logs......
<Nov 27, 2011 1:33:33 AM GST> <Warning> <JMX> <BEA-149515> <An error was encountered getting the attribute AdminServerListenPort on the MBean com.bea:Name=Planning0,Type=ServerRuntime during a call to getAttributes>
<Nov 27, 2011 1:33:33 AM GST> <Warning> <JMX> <BEA-149515> <An error was encountered getting the attribute AdminServerHost on the MBean com.bea:Name=Planning0,Type=ServerRuntime during a call to getAttributes>
<Nov 27, 2011 4:36:12 AM GST> <Warning> <JMX> <BEA-149515> <An error was encountered getting the attribute AdminServerListenPort on the MBean com.bea:Name=Planning0,Type=ServerRuntime during a call to getAttributes>
<Nov 27, 2011 4:36:16 AM GST> <Warning> <JMX> <BEA-149515> <An error was encountered getting the attribute AdminServerHost on the MBean com.bea:Name=Planning0,Type=ServerRuntime during a call to getAttributes>
<Nov 27, 2011 7:33:45 AM GST> <Warning> <JMX> <BEA-149515> <An error was encountered getting the attribute AdminServerListenPort on the MBean com.bea:Name=Planning0,Type=ServerRuntime during a call to getAttributes>
Please help me on this issue...
Thanks
GTS.

Those are just warnings and shouldn't be an issue.
What browser are you using, have you tried to go directly and through workspace to the application creation wizard.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Hyperion planning installation(Problem with application server deployment)

Hi There:
I am new to hyperion planning.I am trying to install planning.I got problem with Hyperion Configuration utility while configuring application server deployment.Its show message failed.Please guide me how to fix this.If it is possible can you please send me any personal documentation on installation.I am trying this for past 4 day's.Below is the error its showing in configtool
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(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.ProductTaskSelectionPanel, INFO, Validating dependencies...
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.ProductTaskSelectionPanel$5, DEBUG, Product: Planning; Dependencies: []
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.ProductTaskSelectionPanel, DEBUG, task to execute: HspDBPropertyLocation
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.ProductTaskSelectionPanel, DEBUG, task to execute: applicationServerDeployment
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.PanelEventDispatcher, DEBUG, constructor
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.AppServerSelectionPanel, INFO, AppServerSelectionPanel in queryEnter
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.AppServerSelectionPanel, INFO, Server: WebLogic 8.1; deployment type = both
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.AppServerSelectionPanel, INFO, Server: WebSphere 5.1; deployment type = both
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:04 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.AppServerSelectionPanel, INFO, Server: Tomcat 5.0.28; deployment type = both
(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:08 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.AppServerSelectionPanel, INFO, AppServerSelectionPanel in queryExit
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(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:08 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.wizard.ProductCustomInputPanel, ERROR, Error:
java.lang.NullPointerException
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     at com.installshield.wizard.awt.AWTWizardUI.currentBeanChanged(Unknown Source)
     at com.installshield.wizard.swing.SwingWizardUI.currentBeanChanged(Unknown Source)
     at com.installshield.wizard.StandardWizardListener.currentBeanChanged(Unknown Source)
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(Mar 09, 2008, 08:26:09 PM), com.hyperion.cis.config.AppServerDeployer, DEBUG, Starting WebLogic 8.1 deployment...
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Please help me.Email id:[email protected]
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I think the installation of planning on Vista is difficult. As some of the files doesn't support even i am tired of doing that.
But tell me one thing have you installed all other products , I mean Essbase, (server, client) , AAS and Shared services.
Are they working good .
I have formatted my system to XP and installed everything , but the problem is when i install planning it prompts me that IIS 5 should be greater other wise EPM will not install...
there are lot of things with planning 1) i can't datasource as it is not highlighting when we configure with Shared services
2) It does not create product instance .
If any one can fix this thing by giving me a suggestions.
Advance Thanks

Hyperion Planning Classic vs. BPMA 9.3

Hi,
We are on Hyperion Planning 9.3 (including all latest patches). We are in the process of building a new Planning application. Currently we donot have an ETL tool and it doesnt seem we will get one for the next few months until our new Planning application is deployed into production. So in a nutshell we wont have an ETL to solve the below problem.
I have used Planning Classic along with an ETL tool to build my meta-data in past implementations, and havent had a chance to use BPMA. Lately I have started getting aquinted with BPMA and understand some of its advantages. However, I still have a few specific questions;
1. I know Planning Classic allows manual creation of members, does BPMA allow the same? Or does BPMA have to have flat file or interface table to create or add members? Our business users would be manually creating some members, or for instance change the start or end month of a 'Scenario'. So, does BPMA allow manual editing and pushing of meta-data?
2. If an application is created via BPMA, they would have to interface via BPMA and not Planning Classic anymore. Is that true?
3. I understand it is possible to convert a Planning Classic application into BPMA but "NOT" vice versa. Is this true?
4. Finally, a more difficult question, a more specific question which kinda of dictates the choice for us.
My client would like individual departments do their respective budgeting (noting unusual there). However, most of these departments budget per 'Project' and more specifically like to budget based on 'Project Name' (which are unique and not generic) as opposed to 'Project Numbers' (there isnt a Project number standardization as such yet). The challenge is getting the 'Project Names' into Hyperion Planning (sadly it doesnt exist in ERP/GL yet because these are new projects).
So, though the Finance Team ultimately approves each department's budget, they would like each department be able to create their respective 'Project Names' in Hyperion Planning. And Planning capabilities like supporting detail, etc wouldnt work as they would like variance based on 'Project Names' and be able to slice-n-dice based on 'Project Names'.
Now if we had an ETL tool the above would have been simple, I would have just created an automation to say pick-up a file with 'Project Names' from a pre-determined folder location. However, because we donot have an ETL, I was wondering if BPMA could do the same, i.e., automatically pick-up a file from a folder and create members and refresh Hyperion Planning? Could the 'Batch Processing' in BPMA handle this?
Appreciate all your responses...

Hi,
First of all I wouldn't recommend using EPMA until version 11, 9.3.1 was riddled with issues.
To try and answer some of your questions
1. You can manually maintain members in EPMA if you choose to do so, you need to push it down to planning/essbase if you do make changes.
2. If the planning app is in EPMA mode then you can't edit/add/delete member information through the classic route, you can view. You still can design forms, task lists etc through planning web.
3. It is possible but no you are not meant to.
Sounds like you could do with ODI it would make your life easier, are you sure you are not licensed to use it, you may be entitled to use it.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Create and Populate a Hyperion Planning Cube using Hyperion Data Integratio

Friends,
I am new to Essbase and have worked extensively in Informatica. Hyperion DIM (OEM version of Informatica) is chosen to create and populate a Hyperion Planning System (with Essbase cube in the backend).
I am using Hyperion DIM 9.3.
Can someone let me know (or share a document) how I can do the following
1) Create a Planning application with a Essbase Cube in the backend using Hyperion Data Integration Management
2) How to populate the Essbase outline and the actuals Essbase cube with data using DIM.
Thanks a lot for all help.

Hi,
You cannot create planning applications using DIM.
To load metadata have a look at :- http://www.oracle.com/technology/obe/hyp_fp/DIM_Planning/OBE_Dim_Planning.html
You can refresh planning database in DIM by
To enable the Refresh Database property for a session:
In Workflow Manager, right-click the session and select Edit.
Click the Mapping tab.
Select a Planning target.
Check the Refresh Database box.
Ok?
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

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