Hyperion Workforce planning Vs HRMS

Can someone tell me what are the major advantages of Hyperion Workforce Planning module over Oracle HRMS?
Waiting for expert suggestions! Thanks in advance.
- Vishnu

Hi,
For creating Employee dimension and associating the attributes like Race, Gender etc to the employee.
Step 1 :First create the attribute dimension with the members in the planning application for Race, gender etc and associate them to Employee Dimension.
step 2: Create the .csv for the 1000 employee to load that in the planning application.
That file will have all the columns like
Example:
Parent, Employee, Alias: Default, Data Storage, Aggregation (Wrkforce), Attribute.
"Existing Employee",XYZ,XYZ,Store,+,Male.
Use the Outline Load utility to load the Employees under Parent "Existing Employees". This way you can load the metadata for
your Employee dimension and also your attribute will be associated at the same time. Once your dimension or metadata for employee gets loaded,
you can then load the data corresponding to the Employees.
Hope you understand...
Thanks,
Sourabh

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Thanks for the tip.
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