Hyperlinks in alternate layout folios

got a vertical layout and an alternate horizontal layout for my ipad folio in the same document. created the internal navigation (eg click shape to return to front cover) on the vertical layout first, works fine. Created horizontal layout and adapted internal navigation on those pages to apply to their horizontal equivalents. none of those links work correctly - they all seem to direct to the last horizontal page. when i open up the link properties everything looks as it should. i've also tried deleting the horizontal links and putting them in from scratch, and had the same problem. any suggestions?

I've been producing a monthly newsletter in InDesign for a number of years. This month I decided to create the newsletter in Pages instead of InDesign. The three features of importance in InDesign that were not present in Pages page layout mode (which is, of the two modes in Pages, that which is closest to InDesign) were automatic creation of table of contents, and both textual and graphical hyperlinks.
The lack of the automatic table of contents creation is easily worked around, albeit that the automatic creation would be a benefit.
The lack of the hyperlinks is, to me, a major shortcoming. The workaround I've used, using Preview to create the links, has the problem that if one needs to revise the content of the document one loses all of the hyperlinks created in Preview and has to create them all over again.
So hopefully in a forthcoming upgrade we might see this deficiency addressed.

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But here is the thing, when exporting the whole book to pdf (using the Indesign Book panel), I can't choose the layout I want to export, as I can do when I export from a single document with several alternate layouts
What I get when I export from a single file with two alternate layouts to interactive pdf
What I get when I export the Indesign Book with two alternate layouts to an interative pdf
Why is that? Is there a way I can export only one layout without having to RE-assemble the whole document into one file?
If I export the whole book as it is, my two alternate layouts are just following each other and it's a big mess, not to mention the hyperlinks don't work anymore.
Also, if the only way is to make one file, the file is then too heavy to be worked with, it's 280 pages long, with HD images on every page ( and the alternate layouts double the pages...)
Does anyone have a solution?

You mean, breaking the document into two or three files and then exporting each of these and then assembling the pdf files?
But then the hyperlinks from one doc to another don't work. I tried it already.
The problem is that I need to export ALL of these documents into ONE pdf because of the interactivity of the hyperlinks.

DPS -- Updating articles with alternate layout page.

I am working on some DPS stuff and ran into an interesting work around... But I'm not sure if is actually supposed to work.
I am building a single (_h) orientation folio with single orientation articles and wanted to have a "scratch page" to work on in my documents (just space to create artwork and link it to hidden areas in objects states so my writers didn't have to go digging through object states to edit pieces).
So I created an "Alternate Layout" in my pages panel and made it whatever size I wanted. When updating the article I was pleased to see that the Alternate page that I had created was not shown in Adobe Viewer on my iPad.
IS there anything flakey about this workaround? Others that have tried this same work around have been given errors when trying to update their articles in folio builder, and I have not yet received that "content generation" error. WHY?

@Dave – since baseline grid is a document preference and not a page or a spread preference, this is not possible.
What is possible, is to set an individual baseline grid per text frame.
Or you could try to set your baseline grid to a common factor for both layouts, if that is possible at all, but there could be unwanted side effects…
For DPS usage I do recommend not using the baseline grid altogether.
@Neil – "Baseline Grid" might be an InDesign-specific feature, but most DPS users will have to work around the fact, that it is not a page or spread property, if they are using InDesign CS6 with alternate layouts.
Adobe should change that in a future version.
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Ok I have the script working and creating my folio BUT.. the function calls for two documents
if I try and pass in a document with alternate layouts I get a message saying that documents containing multiple page sizes are not allowed. if I copy the document and delete a layout off of both the folio builds fine...
Any suggestions on how to do this using the single INDD file? seems to defeat the purpose of having the alternate layouts if the functions cant support them, or I am missing something here?
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Ok I have the script working and creating my folio BUT.. the function calls for two documents
if I try and pass in a document with alternate layouts I get a message saying that documents containing multiple page sizes are not allowed. if I copy the document and delete a layout off of both the folio builds fine...
Any suggestions on how to do this using the single INDD file? seems to defeat the purpose of having the alternate layouts if the functions cant support them, or I am missing something here?
CMY

Script to delete alternate layout

I am writing a script that puts ID documents into the correct folder and naming structure to be batch imported into a folio. The documents have two alternate layouts, the original "Print" layout and an "I" layout for ipad. I want the script to delete the "Print" layout pages before processing the document. This is effectively the first section of the document. If I try to target it as below, I receive an error that says cannot delete the doc's default section.
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@Tim – For a general solution removing ALL PAGES of an alternate layout, we need a more elaborate scripting solution.
I was wrong with my statement in post #7 that we have only to test for the value of "alternateLayout" to get all sections that belong to a specific alternate layout.
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Store the length of the section to a variable we can call "lastPageIndex", add the value of "firstPageIndex" immediately (we cannot assume, that our found alternate layout will always start on page indexed zero).
Also use a boolean control. Let's call it "targetHit". Since our alternate layout is found now, we will set it to the value "true".
3. When the loop hits the next section and the value of "alternateLayout" is an empty string, you know, that this section also belongs to the found alternate layout. Otherwise the value would not be empty, but a name of a different alternate layout we do not want to remove the pages from.
You know that exactly, because you ALSO check the value of our control
"targetHit". (Remember, in our example its value is "true" now).
4. So, if both conditions are met at the same time, add the sum of "pageStart.documentOffset" and "section length" of the current section to the variable "lastPageIndex".
5. In case the value of "alternateLayout" is not an empty string AND not the name of our target AND the control value is "true", we have met another alternate layout and we have to break the loop immediately.
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Alternate Layouts not flowing to iPad

I created a simple folio with three articles in CS6.
For each article I created horizontal and vertical alternate layouts for Kindle Fire, Android, and iPad.
The folios download to the Fire and the Xoom and display as expected. The iPad doesn't see the folio at all. Using most recent version of the Viewer 2.5.0.
Has anyone else seen this behavior? Am I (as per usual) missing something?
Thx
DMc

Yes, both the V and H are those dimensions.
I just went in and made a few corrections - making certain that no content was outside the guides. And then updated the articles, but it hasn't showed up in the Viewer.
I find it noteworthy that the Document Setup shows a page size of Kindle Fire/Nook in the pull down, and then in the Edit Page Size flyout menu of the Pages panel I have selected iPad. Might I have been better off creating the thing for iPad and then making the alternate layouts from that one?
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Hello,
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Petrill,
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Sheena

Publishing an alternate layout in InDesign CS6

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