I am Missing Fonts across Several Applications

Over the last few weeks when I open an application from ILife '06, or some of my recent projects in other apps, I come up with missing fonts. I have seen this happen in IWeb, IDVD, Livetype, InDesign, and Illustrator. Should I replace these fonts by dragging from my Font Book? How do I do that with the ILife Apps? Does this sound like a virus is corrupting my otherwise reliable Mac? If so, what Virus management software is recommended? Thank you for your suggestions.

hello , i'm new to discussions,
i lost some of my most used fonts
from all applications. i installed tiger
almost a year ago, things were working fine.
i use fonts in photoshop cs2, appleworks, etc.,
one night i went to use my fonts, they were gone,
not all but the ones i use all the time, i.e. bradley hand,
bickley script, etc.
i shut my mac down, restarted and they were back.
this happened about a week later, i went searching for
font book, found it, looked, found none of my fonts in there.
re started mac they were back, this happened two more times
and then after restart they were gone for good.
my mail still lists them but when i try to set them as preferences
it goes to a different font... don't know what to do, but i'm losing my
patience. i have 2 other users, the fonts are not there either...

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        var activeFont = false;
for (j = 0; j < appFontList.length; j++){
            var thisAppFont = appFontList[j];
            if (thisDocFont == thisAppFont){
                activeFont = true;
        if (activeFont == false){
            fontArray.push (thisDocFont);
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