I can get every OS except mavericks??? Why???

We want to upgrade one of our iMacs from 10.6.8 to 10.9.0, but the installer is nowhere to be found. I can buy every OS up to 10.8 and get Yosemite for free, but I can't get Mavericks at all???
Am I missing something?

Apple removed it when Yosemite came out. Nobody on these boards will know exactly why or if it’ll be coming back.
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