I can't startup to an external 800 fire wire drive loaded with 10.5?

I have a Power Mac G5 with dual 1.8 GHz cpu's, 2.5 gigabytes of ram. Boot rom version 5.1.5f0 running OSX 4.11. And a Power PC G4
Laptop with one 1,67 Ghz cpu, with 1.5 GB of ram. Boot rom version 4.9.1f1, running OSX 10.5.7. My problem is that I can't get my new 1TB Western Digital external hard drive seen when you hold down the option key on either system?
I formatted it with a fresh OSX 10.5 I bought the family pack for the operating system so I'm legal and this was the 2nd computer to be loaded. The installation was complete but on reboot it went to my internal drive so I never was able to set up the internet settings and such to this startup drive. It will show up in finder and also under the system pref, under startup drive. So when you select it under that it still will just reboot to the internal drive?
And the option button on startup still just see's the internal drive? I've spent many days and nights trying to figure out what I've done wrong? So I ended up at a Mac store with the external hard drive and it booted up perfect! So what's up? The one thing that I noticed was a different graphic. On the option thing my computer shows up with a small drive icon and a watch looking thing that takes about 30 seconds to turn into a curser and at the mac store "bam" all drives showed up and it was larger graphic and just the curser.
So what's my problem on my other 2 systems? Possibly firmware? I tried that also and everything above the ones that I currently have says that the upgrades don't apply to my machines in some form or another? Also I assume that a 1TB drive was a pipe dream back then sooo? But the OS X updates should have taken care of that?
I have a new Imac 24 inch in a box, but I won't even open it until I can get this problem figured out! I want to condense my G4 and G5 info on a boot-able external hard drive. And I want to have my new Imac clean of all the clutter. Thanks' in advance for anyone that can help me! Even the Mac guy was baffled as-to why it wouldn't work on my other systems?

That's all correct.
However (and I've just found this), not all Western Digital drives are fully boot-compatible across both Intel and PowerPC Macs. Check out this table - you may find your drive just isn't supported:
Western Digital boot drive compatibility with Macs
Matt

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