I cannot find my photo library.

Why can I not find my iphoto library or masters?  I have iPhoto and Aperture. Though I stopped using both as they just don't work.  But I am trying to put the photos on an external hard disk and cannot find all the files.  I found the Master folder under Pictures but it doesn't contain my photos?
I have 30,000 photos on my computer somewhere

Thanks Larry.  I have yet to find my iPhoto Library as it isn't there.  I had about 30k photos in iPhoto and it kept shutting down. So I went to the Apple one-to one last year and they had me download Aperture.  After it downloaded, she had Aperture move my photos over? or not sure what it was she did but it took quite awhile.  Since then when I would open Aperture, it would basically crash maybe every 2-3 times I opened the application.  So I just stopped using it.  Got lightroom and have used that sporadically since then but really  haven't done anything with the photos or applications. Since my computer is so full I went to the store again and discussed how to manage it better.  They had me get a couple of external hard drives, told me to move my Master Photo files to that external hard drive.  The problem is, my photos are not where they said they would be - Masters.  There are a few there but not the 30k photos.  I, did, however open iPhoto tonight and I can see all the thumbnails from back to 2008 come up.  I have never directed my photos to go anywhere  They were always just in iPhoto.  What I want to do is move them off my computer to an external harddrive.  And for some reason, how I was instructed to find the large 30k plus file of photos I cannot. The good thing I guess is that I have another one-to-one with Apple tomorrow and I will see if they can help fix this issue.  and maybe figure out why Aperture seems to crash continually. Thanks for responding.

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