I cant create an icloud apple account

I want to use iCloud for both my Mac Mini and iPhone, but the hardware themselves are not related to my problem: I can't create an iCloud account.
1 - I know my itunes/app store apple ID is not the same as an icloud ID (an iCloud id is an actual email address)
2 - apparently both my personal email addresses are in use (so i cant create a new account)
3 - I click "forgot password" when I try and login using my personal email address and it says it emailed me the password.  I have tried this several times and it never sends me an email (they are both gmail accounts and yes, I checked the spam box).
How can I create an iCloud account? 
My only guess at the problem is that I have been a Mac user since pre-internet and I am sure I used my addresses for purchases and accounts starting a long time ago.

dalidrama wrote:
1 - I know my itunes/app store apple ID is not the same as an icloud ID (an iCloud id is an actual email address)
You can use your current AppleID to create an iCloud account:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4436
You are not getting the email for the password reset because the email you are currently using is not the same as the recovery email you set in your profile settings when you first created the AppleID/iTunes account. You will have to try and remeber what email you used as the recovery address.

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