I'd like to go back to Maverick but i miss a Time machine save

Hi everyone.
Here are my 2 questions:
- First, I'd like to go back to Maverick but i miss a Time machine save. Is it possible or it would be too complicated? Complicated is another word that i'd never, ever, imagine to use with an Apple product.
- Second, how can i ask for a refund? I payed much for a high level of service and this is not even a good service
It has been a while since i wrote something in English so sorry for any errors, i'll try to fix them soon.
Thanks for the help.
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Ugo Tuninetti wrote:
- Second, how can i ask for a refund? I payed much for a high level of service and this is not even a good service but a piece of trickery
I'm sure Apple will be happy to refund the purchase price for Yosemite in full...

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