I have an older 802.11g Airport Express - How do I update?
The current Airport Utility does not support it. The articles say I need to use the old Airport Admin Utility and/or a pre-version 6 version of the Airport Utility. I cannot install these on an iMac with Mavericks. The system won't install them. Any ideas on how to install/use these old utilitities?
Error 10057 is related to Windows, but unfortunately, I do not have a PC on hand to troubleshoot this issue. Maybe this will help?
Error 10057 with Apple AirPort Utility and Windows - CTACS ...
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Using an Older (802.11g) Airport Extreme as bridge with Time Capsule
Several people have inquired about the possibility of having older (802.11g) computers and devices connected through their Time Capsules without disturbing the 802.11n capabilities of their newer equipment.
The latest version of Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility --
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPort_Networks10.5-Windows.pdf -- explains (pp. 48-49) that one can configure a dual-band (2.4 GHz & 5 GHz) network of this type by setting up the "second device [i.e., the older Airport Extreme] as a bridge." What is lacking is a clear (at least to me) way of configuring the 2.4 GHz Extreme as such a bridge, although the text states that one need only follow instructions "earlier in this chapter" (which begins at p. 14). When I try to do this, the AirPort Extreme shows up as a separate network.
Obviously, I am doing something wrong. Can someone walk me through how to configure the AirPort Extreme as a bridge?
Thanks.The MAC support people walked me through a solution to my question about using an older (802.11g) AirPort Extreme and a Time Capsule to form a dual network. The solution turns out to be pretty easy but I am posting it in case anyone else has a similar problem.
Here's what was involved:
N-capable equipment: MacBook Pro, IMac, Time Capsule.
B/G-capable equipment: AirPort Extreme (flying saucer 802.11g); Mac G4; older (802.11g) AirPort Express supporting a network printer; IBM ThinkPad running Windows XP (w/service pack 2).
Step 1: Using AirPort Utility (manual setup), I set the Time Capsule to run at 5 GHz (click on "Wireless" then "Radio Mode". Under the same "Wireless" tab, I assigned a 13-digit WPA2 password to this network (more about this latter). If you opt to use the 5GHz frequency, you have the choice of WPA2 or nothing. After saving your settings, exit out of the AirPort Utility; you are done with the Time Capsule.
Step 2: Reset the AirPort Extreme to its default settings by depressing the small reset button while the device is plugged in.
Step 3: I reopened AirPort Utility, accessed the Extreme and clicked manual setup. (You will loose your connection to the Time Capsule at this point, but this is okay.) At the top of the screen that opens in response to clicking "manual setup," click "internet" and set "connection sharing" to "Off (Bridge Mode)" Next click "AirPort" at the very top of the screen: under "Base Station" I named the Extreme as "G network" and set up a network password. Under "Wireless" I next set up a WEP 40 bit password which was identical to the WPA2 password I used for the Time Capsule. Using a WEP password was necessary, because some of the older computers were not WPA2 compatible. I kept the passwords identical simply as a matter of convenience.
Step 4: Connect the AirPort Extreme to the Time Capsule using an Ethernet cable between the WAN port of the Extreme, and one of the three LAN ports on the Time Capsule. There is a small, green LED recessed in the LAN port socket; if it lights up, you are in business.
Step 5: Using a pin, I reset the 802.11g AirPort Express to its default settings, opened AirPort Utility (no need for manual setup for this), named the Express "Printer" and added it to the G network in a conventional manner by following the setup prompts. (If anyone needs help with this, let me know). Exit out of AirPort Utility and reopen it to refresh; all wireless devices (3 in my case) should be visible and lighted green.
Step 6: I set up the MacBook Pro and the IMac to join the 5 GHz Time Capsule network, and everything else to run on the G network. At this point, everything appears to be working. I can, for example, print a document from my MacBook Pro (N-network) to the network printer which on the G-network. (Because the older computers belong to my daughters, I'll never know if file sharing across the networks is a possibility.)
I take no credit for any of this; it was all accomplished through the efforts of very patient MAC support people.
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How many users or devices does an old 802.11g airport express support?
I've got three old 802.11g airport expresses that make up my home network. One is my base station hooked to my cable modem. the second I used as accss point for my satellite tv box. The third is hooked up to my stereo. I have an ipad, macbook, PC and a doogle plugged into my flat panel tv. I usually don't have my mac and PC on at the same time but I have lately and I lose the network connection on both machines. I can't reconnect on either machine. My base station goes yellow so I unplug it a few minutes and plug it back in. Then everything is find if I only have one machine. I assume my trouble comes from trying to put too many devices on the network, right? If I buy a new airport extreme, will it work with my old airport expresses? Or what's the solution to my network problem? Thanks.
Hi - first of all is the base station solid yellow or blinking yellow - if it is solid then there is an electrical problem - if it is blinking then there should be an error message in the Airport Utility - each Express can handle 10 wireless clients - the base station can administer 199 internal IP addresses so I don't that the number of users is an issue - it sounds like a connection conflict - however to address you second question, you are using old technology with new technology now - so to use a new Extreme with old Expresses would be defeating your purpose - in my opinion instead you should get 3 new Expresses - $99x3 and you would be getting a fast new system - or $180 for a new Extreme and still have a slow system - but if you want 3 gigabit ports and the ability to connect a hard drive in a base station then an Extreme and 2 Expresses is the ideal solution - and I fully understand the economics involved so the choice is yours - if I have caused you to have more questions, please ask.
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Thank you for any suggestions
My frustration stems from the fact that the devices haven't stopped working.
Neither have any of my Apple devices, the oldest of which dates back to 1985, and some of which remain in daily use with Macs running Mavericks. They have plenty of moving parts, too.
I gather you would be thrilled if your Express were to have simply have stopped working some time ago. If you are waiting for it to die, you may have a very, very long wait.
They are quite capable of continuing to fill their function.
So do OS X Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion. All those operating systems are quite capable of administering your original AirPort Express. Use one of them, as I explained in my original reply to this Discussion.
Even if you were to consider your old Express fully depreciated, which it is not, it cost you all of about 25¢ a week to enjoy the benefits of using it. If you consider such an expense unwarranted, you ought to reevaluate what you consider an essential expense, and what does not. -
Having a new Apple AirPort Extreme (802.11n) I need to extend the network since even the AirPort Extreme provides after about 30 Feet maximum only 50% signal strength in 2.4 GHz and maximum 41% signal strength in the 5 GHz band.
I have an Apple Airport Express (802.11g) but I am not sure that it can extend with it the network to get a better signal strength?
I know I can only use the Apple Airport Utility 5.6 to access the AirPort Express, but I can see also the AirPort Extreme though it (5.6).
Also, it seems that my "old" Wireless Motorola Cable Modem (SBG900) for the same distance (about 30 Feet), which is a 802.11g, gives still a better signal strength (62%) than the Apple Airport Extreme...
I guess I need the proper instructions how to, if it is possible.
Any intelligent answers available? Thanks.This is very confusing. The AirPort Express Base Station has three settings (under "Wireless" in the AirpPort Utility 5.6) "Create a wireless Network", "Participate in a WDS network" and "Join a wireless network".
Whereas the first is self-explanatory the second and third seem to indicate, that a relation with an existing Network can be created. This is also indicated, when selecting as the "Wireless Mode:" "Join a wireless network" and then selecting "Wireless Network Name:" where then all available networks 802.11 b/g/n pop up you can choose which to use.
Now, it does not make any sense, that if all these settings and selections are available, that the AirPort Express cannot extend an existing network, considering that the AirPort Extreme, which is a 802.11b/g/n can be connected to. Even the AirPort Utility 6.0 sees the AirPort Express 802.11b/g but when selected alerts that "This version of AirPort Utility doesn't support this base station. Use AirPort Utility 5.6 to configure or manage this base station. AirPort Utility 5.6 is available at AirPort Service and Support." And as said, that AirPort Utility 5.6 sees everything and has said setting options.
The way as I see this it is, that if I can pickup an existing network, created with an AirPort Extreme 802.11b/g/n with an AirPort Express 802.11b/g and have the option to "Join a wireless network" such AirPort Express should be able to broadcast the picked up and joint network. Otherwise the setting options for the AirPort Express are nothing else than a distortion of reality to me.
Also, before I got the new AirPort Extreme 802.11b/g/n I had an AirPort Extreme Base Station 802.11b/g (gray) and there I was able to extend the network via the AirPort Express 802.11b/g.
So the above comments do not make sense to me.
Hope you understand that and have a better explanation available. -
Which Admin Utility version for old 802.11g Airport Express?
Which version of the Admin Utility should I use for my Airport Express which is about 5 years old, maybe more?
And what about firmware updates? I have Windows XP.
My Airport uses 802.11, 802.11b and 802.11g, not the current 802.
Currently I have Admin Utility version 4.2.
The Airport won't recognize my networked hard drive and my only hope is to update the software.I believe WDS won't halve the bandwidth on the master, only on the slave (which won't matter, because it will be more than fast enough for airtunes). And the extreme will be faster than your modem anyway, even if the bandwidth were to be halved. Unless you've got some seriously fast contract. But in any case, I doubt it will work using one of the other methods. I had this problem in the past (as it happens, my b/g AE died, and I now have two n units, connecting using 'join'), and I wasn't able to make it work using something other than the WDS option. But you could always try yourself of course. If you put your b/g AE on ebay and buy a b/g/n unit, you'll be able to use the join and extend options.
Btw, you don't have to disable the WAN port on the express, because it actually isn't only a WAN port - it works both ways. You could connect it to a blu-ray player that wants to connect to the internet for example, or any other device that has an ethernet port.
But yes, you have to connect to both routers together, as one network is what you want. And to answer your last question, I'm pretty sure that airtunes will first go through the extreme, an then to the express. But why don't you set it up in WDS mode and see how you like it? I certainly had no problems with it when I had the b/g AE. -
Verizon FIOS, Time Capsule, and Airport Express - How to Extend Network
OK, I just got Verizon FIOS (TV, Internet, and phone). Don't care for the wireless router that is required to be used with it (want 802.11n and Time Capsule). I turned of the wireless on the Verizon FIOS router and installed a Time Capsule in Bridge Mode, which is how the Verizon rep told me to install it. As I understand it, the Verizon FIOS router is still handling DHCP, NAT, etc. I would like to extend the wireless network to reach some dead spots in my house. I have read that the Airport Express can be used to extend a wireless network from an Airport Extreme or Time Capsule, but it appears that I need to set up a WDS with the Time Capsule as the base station, which is apparently not possible on the Time Capsule in Bridge Mode. I am desperately seeking any advice on how to use Verizon FIOS, my Time Capsule, and extend the wireless network to reach the farther corners of the house. I am using a Macbook and a Thinkpad as well as an iPhone on the wireless network with a Dell desktop connected to the Time Capsule via Ethernet. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Before I switched, I had Cox Cable with a Buffalo wireless router and it had great range. Now I seem to be in a worse situation from a wireless perspective with higher TV and Internet quality. Thanks in advance.
Welcome to the discussions!
+I would like to extend the wireless network to reach some dead spots in my house. I have read that the Airport Express can be used to extend a wireless network from an Airport Extreme or Time Capsule, but it appears that I need to set up a WDS with the Time Capsule as the base station, which is apparently not possible on the Time Capsule in Bridge Mode+
If you have an AirPort Express(n), you can configure it to "extend a wireless network". This is a more efficient way to add additional wireless coverage (and much easier to configure than a WDS arrangement).
However, if you have an older "b/g" AirPort Express, you must use the WDS configuration method with this device and the Time Capsule if you want to increase your wireless coverage. -
I know that if I use wired ethernet then the MBRP can be a wirelss hotspot for other devices. Since the MBRP supports 802.11ac and I have a new 802.11ac wireless router it gets much better range than my older 802.11/n devices. There are places in teh house where the MBRP connects to the wireless but where older 802.11g/n devices lare out of range. In those rooms I'd like to use my MBRP connected to the network wirelessly using 802.11ac as a hotspot for the nearby 802.11 g/n devices. Anyone know if that can be done and how to do it ?
Turn on Internet Sharing in Sharing preferences. Share the Ethernet connection to wireless.
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Why have apple not launced new airport express 802.11ac version
Why have apple not launced new airport express 802.11ac version, when recently launching new Airport Extreme Base Station and new Airport Time Capsule 802.11ac versions?
Do you think they will launch one soon as wanting to extend my WI-FI network but don't want to purchase current Airport Express 802.11n version if a new model is due to be on sale in the near future as would prefer latest models/technology.
Please advise
Regards
DaveWhy have apple not launced new airport express 802.11ac version, when recently launching new Airport Extreme Base Station and new Airport Time Capsule 802.11ac versions?
Do you think they will launch one soon ......
Sorry, but no one here on a user-to-user support forum will be able to tell you what a notoriously secretive company like Apple will do or when they might do it. We are all users.....just like you.
You would need to ask Apple about this, although I would be very surprised if you get an answer with any real information.
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I havea "wirelessly challenged" 2-story home and need to extend the range. Currently I have an 802.11n Main Base Station with an 802.11n Airport Express Remote. It's not getting the job done (upstairs connection is weak).
I am considering getting an 802.11ac Airport Time Capsule to help, even though I currently only have devices with 802.11n wireless connectivity (future-proof a little).
I an planning on setting up a Wireless Distribution System (WDS) Network:
1.) Setting up the Time Capsule as the Main Base Station connected to a Cable modem
2.) Reconfiguring and Setting up the current AirPort Extreme 802.11n as a Relay Base Station
3.) Reconfiguring and Setting up the current AirPort Express 802.11n as a Remote Station
I cannot "hard wire" one Base Statio to the other.
Will this work?Will this work?
Unfortunately, no. WDS is a older, very inefficient way to extend the wireless network signal.
As such, newer operating systems like Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks do not even offer settings for this older WDS type of network.
In addition, the new Time Capsule has no capabilities to use WDS settings at all, even if you used a Mac with another operating system to try to set things up.
Even if it were possible to set up a WDS network, the speed on the network would be incredibly slow. As you know, WDS only operates at "g" wireless speed levels. Each "relay" or "remote" that you add to the network each cuts that bandwidth or speed in half.
With a WDS "main", "relay" and "remote", the network would be operating at about 14 Mbps......a tiny fraction of what the devices would be capable of providing normally. -
I have tryed to connect an AirPort Express to my wireless network. But I alwais get the errocode -4. Can anybody help. I have reset the AirPort Express and updated the software.
The ZyXEL P-2601HN-F1, as you know, is a combination DSL modem & 802.11n wireless router (or gateway device).
For your goal you will want to take a look at this Apple Support article for details on how to configure an AX for iTunes.
If you are still having difficulties with the AX joining the ZyXEL's wireless network, you can try the following:
Temporarily disable wireless encryption.
If you are hidding the SSID, disable that feature.
Change the Mode Select setting to: 802.11g Only
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802.11n Airport Express won't connect to Internet
Hi,
I have recently purchased a new 802.11n Airport Express which works fine with the Airport Utility, but will not connect to the internet through the Ethernet.
It is plugged directly from the cable model into the 802.11n via Ethernet.
I know that it is not the modem/internet service provider because when I pop my old 802.11b/g (model A1084) everything works fine, and I connect no problem.
The settings appear the same, but with the old model I get internet, with the 802.11n I get the flashing amber light. If I set it up manually, and input the same IP, Subnet Mask, and Router number that is working for the 802.11b/g model, I get the solid green light, but no internet.
Originally, I assumed I'd just picked up a lemon, so I exchanged it and I am getting the exact same results so I must be doing something wrong.
Any ideas?
I wanted to extend my network, but use the 802.11n as the internet input so I could take advantage of the faster speeds.Welcome to the discussions!
You mentioned that you had a cable modem. Although the ISP will claim otherwise, in many cases it will take 20-30 minutes for a modem to completely reset. The reset is needed whenever you change the device that is directly connected to the modem.
Power down the modem and pull the battery if it has one. Power down the rest of the system as well.
Power up the modem first and let it run for 5-10 minutes, then the Express for a few minutes, then your computers.
Once you get things going, we can look into the next puzzle of extending the network. Please post back when you have the "green" light and internet. -
trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber not solid green
what am i doing wrong
btw I have airport utility 5.5.3trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express
Can you clarify what you mean by "plugging in"? Are you saying that you are pluggin in an Ethernet cable to the AirPort Express from the AirPort Extreme?
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AirPort Extreme (802.11n), AirPort Express, and Client Limit Q
I'm very interested in the new AirPort Extreme (APE) due to the ability to access a hard drive from it for network sharing. I think that is awesome. But I have a few questions.
I am currently running 2 AirPort Express (APX) base stations for my network and am getting great signal strength throughout the house. No real complaints there.
One has the modem plugged into in the basement, and the other is set up as WDS. Unfortunately, I am quickly approaching the 10 client connection limit for the APX, so I was looking for a way to expand it.
If I get an APE and use the APX base stations as WDS access points, will I still be limited to only 10 clients attached at a time? And, since I assume the computer attaches itself to whichever of the three AP base stations has the strongest signal, will I alway be able to access the hard drive attached to the APE if I do that? I understand I won't get the 802.11n speeds (fine, I don't care) , but I would love to keep the APX base stations in my network for stereos and signal boosting.
Thanks for your help.Is there a way to use the APX without losing bandwidth?
Configure it to operate as a wireless client. See KB 302153, AirPort Express: How to join an existing wireless network in client mode.
Maybe a way to use it as an extension other than WDS mode?
No
And why does it cut the bandwidth in half?
802.11b/g is not duplex so data can only be transmitted one direction at a time since the same channel (and radio) is used to transmit/receive.
If traffic is flowing from deviceB to deviceA, that traffic will interrupt the flow of data in the other direction and get part of the full bandwidth.
Each WDS link cuts the effective bandwidth in half because the traffic has to be retransmitted again. Let's assume that deviceA and deviceB are connected via WDS. Let's say that deviceA is connected to the internet and clientC is wirelessly connect to deviceB. Let's say that clientC is sending a 54 Mb file to the internet.
- 1 second to send 54 Mb file from clientC to deviceB
- 1 second to send 54 Mb file from deviceB to deviceA
So looking at the bandwidth between clientC and the internet, we see that the transfer rate is:
(54 Mb)/(2 seconds) = 27 Mbps
The effect of WDS becomes even more troublesome when you realize that while the data is being transferred between clientC and deviceB, deviceA has to shut off its radio so that it doesn't cause interference with the transfer. This means that other clients of deviceA are waiting. So WDS has large implications for big networks. -
Hello i have a problem with my airport express the music sizzles? Why?
Hello i have a problem with my airport express the music sizzles? Why?
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