I have the new Oracle 8i installer and here is why
I have been trying to get Oracle 8i on Linux and I feel that I
must share
my thoughts on the new Oracle installer with everybody.
I hate the new installer. I used to run the installer from
home over my
128Kbps connection while I was connected to the office machines,
because it
was simple text based. And Oracle 8i has changed all that!
I have nothing against GUI based installers, only when they have
a little too
many animated images that eat up bandwidth. I had to drive all
the way to
the office because I did not have sufficient bandwidth to display
the darn
ringing bell animated image. This is strictly the mentality of
Windows users
who like to work on the console of servers.
And check this out:
line 118 in my install log file at :
/usr/local/oracle/u01/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions.log
says :
platGroup = WINDOWS
And this is on Linux!!! Maybe the Oracle folks are forgetting
that Linux
users are a little too sensitive to these kind of mistakes. :)
This also supports my theory that the new installer is a gift
from Windows
programmers. Who are not too familiar with the idea of being
able to send
their video display to any computer around the world and work
from there.
A feature every Linux user takes for granted
There are numerous other bugs in the installer and other routines
of Oracle
8i for Linux. Some of them I will list here:
2. The installation types screen list 3 options:
Typical, Minimal and Custom.
Somehow Minimal takes more disk space (642 MB) compared to
Typical (585 MB).
Well that is what the installation screen says. I have not tried
to install
using the minimal install.
3. The installation cant figure out how much free space is
available on the /
partition. Is it that hard? Its gives warnings about how I may
not have
enough space.
4. dbassist cant find the cdrom if you try to install the default
database
from CDROM. It says cannot find CDROM even if you have all your
stuff under
/mnt/cdrom
5. The docs talk about software mount points and data mount
points /u01 /u02
/u03 and /u04 that I created, but I could not find anywhere to
specify them
like I was able to, with the last release.
6. "Oracle Protocol Support" section during the install shows no
options at
all. What happened to good ole Net8?
And many others. This product is a joke.
Atif.
[email protected]
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My sentiments exactly. There are so many bugs in the
installation of this release that I have just about given up.
And I haven't even started testing the new features yet!
I've tried the install on RedHat 6.0 straight out of the box (no
patches or updates applied) and followed the OIG and release
notes to the letter. Clearly, no one at Oracle did the same,
because there are many problems during install. I finally got a
simple database running, but there are some real gotcha's along
the way.
Here are just a few of the bugs I've encountered:
1. Zero length library file $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libnjni8.so.
Netasst doesn't work without it. Someone said they posted the
source code to the comp.databases.oracle.server newsgroup, but I
can't find it.
2. Database Creation Assistant thinks dbmssql.sql is called
dbmssml.sql.
3. Building the Intelligent Agent with TCL 7.5 causes a cascade
of undefined references when running gmake -f ins_oemagent.mk
agent
4. Database Creation Assistant doesn't understand OFA. It wants
to put all of the database files /u01/app/oracle/oradata/<sid> !
5. Database Creation Assistant will sometimes prevent editing
the data file names to put them in OFA compliant directories.
I am appreciative of the free developer licenses for so many
Oracle products, but this is the worst Oracle install I've had
in 12 years.
Atif (guest) wrote:
: I have been trying to get Oracle 8i on Linux and I feel that I
: must share
: my thoughts on the new Oracle installer with everybody.
: I hate the new installer. I used to run the installer from
: home over my
: 128Kbps connection while I was connected to the office
machines,
: because it
: was simple text based. And Oracle 8i has changed all that!
: I have nothing against GUI based installers, only when they
have
: a little too
: many animated images that eat up bandwidth. I had to drive all
: the way to
: the office because I did not have sufficient bandwidth to
display
: the darn
: ringing bell animated image. This is strictly the mentality of
: Windows users
: who like to work on the console of servers.
: And check this out:
: line 118 in my install log file at :
: /usr/local/oracle/u01/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActio
ns.log
: says :
: platGroup = WINDOWS
: And this is on Linux!!! Maybe the Oracle folks are forgetting
: that Linux
: users are a little too sensitive to these kind of mistakes. :)
: This also supports my theory that the new installer is a gift
: from Windows
: programmers. Who are not too familiar with the idea of being
: able to send
: their video display to any computer around the world and work
: from there.
: A feature every Linux user takes for granted
: There are numerous other bugs in the installer and other
routines
: of Oracle
: 8i for Linux. Some of them I will list here:
: 2. The installation types screen list 3 options:
: Typical, Minimal and Custom.
: Somehow Minimal takes more disk space (642 MB) compared to
: Typical (585 MB).
: Well that is what the installation screen says. I have not
tried
: to install
: using the minimal install.
: 3. The installation cant figure out how much free space is
: available on the /
: partition. Is it that hard? Its gives warnings about how I
may
: not have
: enough space.
: 4. dbassist cant find the cdrom if you try to install the
default
: database
: from CDROM. It says cannot find CDROM even if you have all
your
: stuff under
: /mnt/cdrom
: 5. The docs talk about software mount points and data mount
: points /u01 /u02
: /u03 and /u04 that I created, but I could not find anywhere to
: specify them
: like I was able to, with the last release.
: 6. "Oracle Protocol Support" section during the install shows
no
: options at
: all. What happened to good ole Net8?
: And many others. This product is a joke.
: Atif.
: [email protected]
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