I have to renew my password every time I want to sign in.
Please can you help - every time I want to log in to the discussion forums, I get a red message telling me my password has been incorrectly entered. I use the same password and I have to go through resetting it every time. Why could this be happening? Do I have a bug?
Hi Lindart,
Apologies if I was being presumptious in dismissing your issue as being a server-side problem without first going through the proper troubleshooting procedures. Just to let you know, your thread in the Safari forum is still active should you choose to post more information in the future.
All the best!
Regards,
Yang
Similar Messages
-
Sign in with username and password every time I want to check emails on my PC using iCloud?
Signing in with username and password every time I want to check emails on my PC using iCloud
Having convinced my parents to get rid of their old AOL account and sign up for iCloud to sync their new iPhone with their old PC running Windows 7, I thought I was on to a winner. All working OK but is there any other way to get into emails besides going on iCloud website and signing in with name and password everytime? Can it be set up as a Mail account directly like on a Mac? Or using Outlook or Entourage? Help! I'm not a PC person!!
ELFIf they have Win 7 or 8, and Outlook 2007 or newer then you can.
Just download the iCloud Control Panel for Windows. Install and select the services you want (Mail Contacts and Calendars will appear in Outlook) -
Have to restart Lion server every time I want to access it remotely
L.S.,
My Mac Mini Server (10.7.3) is colocated at a data center.
At this point I have to restart Lion server every time I want to access it remotely for screen sharing over the internet.
I can make the connection, so all the right ports are open, as the port scan also shows, but it just times out when I wish to connect again within the same server without rebooting.
I bought Apple Remote Desktop but that doesn't help either. I can still connect through AFP, web and VPN.
I do hope that someone can give me some more insight in this problem.
Rebooting isn't a problem by the way...
UPDATE:
If I keep the session active overnight, there is no problem whatsoever, but when I log off as a "good practice", which I've learned using Windows, screen sharing will not work any longer. Forgetting about logging off seems to be a viable workaround at this point .
regards,
MarkDouble post... https://discussions.apple.com/message/17729558#17729558
-
TS3899 Why am I asked for my password every time I want to access my e mail accounts on iPhone 4s
Does anyone know why am I asked for my password every time I want to access my e mail accounts on iPhone 4s. This has only occured since updating software.
You did put them into the settings under Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars?
-
Every time i want to sign in to my account i receive the error message that i need to contact itune support
Welcome to the Apple Community.
Did you follow the instructions in the message and contact Apple, which you can do through iTunes Store Support. If Apple have asked you to contact them, then the issue can only be resolved by them. -
Entering ITunes password every time it want to rent movie
I Have Apple TV 2nd generation. Every time I want to rent a movie or show I have to enter my password , even for purchases on the same day.
this started happening with the last software upgrade. What can I do to save my password for ITunes in Apple TV?Hello rsaugust,
The option to save your Apple ID is selectable when signing into your Apple ID in Settings, as detailed below.
Sign in to the iTunes Store
From the main Apple TV menu, choose Settings > iTunes Store.
If your location and iTunes account already appear here, skip to the next section.
Select Location.
Scroll to highlight your location and select it.
Press the Menu button on the remote once to return to the previous screen.
Select Sign in.
Enter your Apple ID and password. If you don't have an Apple ID, create one using iTunes on your computer. (The password is case-sensitive.) Note: If your Apple ID is an AOL account, you'll need to convert it to work with Apple TV. If you need help converting your AOL account, please contact iTunes Store Customer Service.
Apple TV will give you the option to remember your password. Select Yes if you want to save the password.
Press and hold the Menu button to return to the main Apple TV menu.
How to rent a movie from the iTunes Store on Apple TV
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1498
Cheers,
Allen -
HT5631 How do I turn off being asked for my password EVERY time I want to download an app?
How do I turn off being asked for my password EVERY time I download an App on the app store? When I go to the security page on "Manage my Apple ID" it only has a link to set-up two step verification...not disable it.
You can't.
-
whenever I use SKY for my email [ many time a day] - ([email protected]) Firefox won't remember my password (it's in settings - show passwords - so I know its there..) So every time I have to enter it manually - it's becoming a bit of a pain....
All other sites I access using passwords (YouTube / eBay ect) ALL auito log in properly - I've tried deleting from the saved password list and adding again but it still won't auto log in..what's up...???Try this if you met the same problem
Syndrome:
The wireless network name appeared on the System Preference>Network>Airport>Advanced>Preferred Networks List, but every time when start computer or wake up, a popup window said "None preferred network is available" and ask me to select a new net work, if I select the same network, the password is there. The system keychain can remember the password but System preference cannot remember the Preferred/Joined wireless network.
Reason:
Fix to this problem that strangely centred on the specific location of the “System Preferences.app”, if other than the standard location of the root of the “Applications” folder.
If you have moved the System Preferences application (not alias, actual app) to any other location for any reason, your newly joined preferred network will NOT be properly remembered and will NEVER be properly rejoined.
Solution:
1) Move “System Preferences.app” back to “Applications\”.
2) Delete all instances of “Preferred Networks” in “Network Preferences”.
3) Delete all “Airport network password” instances in “Keychain Access”.
4) Restart your Mac.
5) Add/Join applicable preferred network using the Airport pulldown menu or in Network Preferences (as if for the first time). Use “Advanced” in “Network Preferences” to confirm the existence of your preferred network and the correct settings. Use “Keychain Access” to confirm the existence of the applicable “Airport network password” instance and the correct settings.
6) Restart your Mac. The OS should now find your preferred network and join it on its own. Good Luck!
NOTE: Simply moving back System Preferences will NOT suffice. Deleting and re-adding/joining the preferred network is a must after the app has been moved. -
I have to force quit mail every time I want to shut down my macbook
I know there are several other posts asking the same question but I've been through all of them and I can't find which is the application that is blocking my mail from closing. Here is the diagnostics test I ran.
Last login: Sun Feb 24 08:52:33 on console
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$ kextstat -kl | awk '!/com\.apple/{printf "%s %s\n", $6, $7}'
com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (0.0.74)
com.logmein.driver.LogMeInSoundDriver (1.0.0)
com.serato.usb.kext (2.3.0)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv (4.2.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.2.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt (4.2.6)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp (4.2.6)
com.rane.driver.sl2.10.6 (1.0.1f3)
com.github.osxfuse.filesystems.osxfusefs (2.5.4)
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$ sudo launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.(apple|openssh|vix)|edu\.mit|org\.(amavis|apache|cups|isc|ntp|postfi x|x)/{print $3}'
Password:
org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx
com.rim.BBDaemon
com.rane.sl4.daemon
com.rane.sl3.daemon
com.rane.sl2.daemon
com.rane.sixtytwo.daemon
com.rane.sixtyone.daemon
com.rane.sixtyeight.daemon
com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool
com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper
com.machangout.glims.loader
com.logmein.logmeinserver
com.google.keystone.daemon
com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper
com.adobe.SwitchBoard
com.adobe.fpsaud
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$ launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.apple|edu\.mit|org\.(x|openbsd)/{print $3}'
com.growl.GrowlLauncher
com.logmein.CubbyHelper
com.Eltima.SyncMateServer
org.macosforge.xquartz.startx
com.rim.BBLaunchAgent
com.rim.RimAlbumArtDaemon
com.oracle.java.Java-Updater
com.machangout.glims.agent
com.logmein.logmeinguiagent
com.logmein.logmeingui
com.hp.messagecenter.launcher
com.hp.devicemonitor
com.google.keystone.system.agent
com.divx.update.agent
com.divx.dms.agent
com.facebook.videochat.Panos.updater
com.divx.agent.postinstall
com.adobe.ARM.de23d1e3aa2d00ce38d73f10fcbdc8dcaaaf6be989610710a1ddda77
com.adobe.ARM.202f4087f2bbde52e3ac2df389f53a4f123223c9cc56a8fd83a6f7ae
com.adobe.AAM.Scheduler-1.0
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$ ls -1A /e*/mach* {,/}L*/{Ad,Compon,Ex,Fram,In,Keyb,La,Mail/Bu,P*P,Priv,Qu,Scripti,Servi,Spo,Sta} * L*/Fonts 2> /dev/null
/Library/Components:
/Library/Extensions:
VBoxDrv.kext
VBoxNetAdp.kext
VBoxNetFlt.kext
VBoxUSB.kext
/Library/Frameworks:
AECore.framework
AEProfiling.framework
AERegistration.framework
Abracode.framework
AudioMixEngine.framework
Compressor.framework
ContactRender.framework
DSPPublishing.framework
DivX Toolkit.framework
FxPlug.framework
GData.framework
GlimsAdditions.framework
HPSmartPrint.framework
MacFUSE.framework
MediaServerAPI.framework
MindFortress.framework
NotesLib.framework
NyxAudioAnalysis.framework
OSXFUSE.framework
PMPluginsFramework4.framework
Pantomime.framework
PluginManager.framework
ProMetadataSupport.framework
Qmaster.framework
RIM_VSP.framework
RimBlackBerryUSB.framework
SIXTY-EIGHTApi.framework
SL2Api.framework
SL4Api.framework
SixtyOneApi.framework
SixtyTwoApi.framework
Sl3Api.framework
TSLicense.framework
XSKey.framework
iTunesLibrary.framework
/Library/Input Methods:
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins:
AdobeAAMDetect.plugin
AdobeExManDetect.plugin
AdobePDFViewer.plugin
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin
DirectorShockwave.plugin
DivXBrowserPlugin.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
GlimsAdditions.webplugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
LogMeIn.plugin
LogMeInSafari32.plugin
LogMeInSafari64.plugin
OVSHelper.plugin
Quartz Composer.webplugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
SharePointWebKitPlugin.webplugin
Silverlight.plugin
flashplayer.xpt
nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt
/Library/Keyboard Layouts:
/Library/LaunchAgents:
com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
com.divx.dms.agent.plist
com.divx.update.agent.plist
com.google.keystone.agent.plist
com.hp.devicemonitor.plist
com.hp.messagecenter.launcher.plist
com.logmein.logmeingui.plist
com.logmein.logmeinguiagent.plist
com.logmein.logmeinguiagentatlogin.plist
com.machangout.glims.agent.plist
com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist
com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist
com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist
org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist
syncmateStarter.plist
/Library/LaunchDaemons:
com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
com.apple.aelwriter.plist
com.apple.qmaster.qmasterd.plist
com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper.plist
com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
com.logmein.logmeinserver.plist
com.machangout.glims.loader.plist
com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist
com.rane.sixtyeight.daemon.plist
com.rane.sixtyone.daemon.plist
com.rane.sixtytwo.daemon.plist
com.rane.sl2.daemon.plist
com.rane.sl3.daemon.plist
com.rane.sl4.daemon.plist
com.rim.BBDaemon.plist
org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist
/Library/PreferencePanes:
Apple Qmaster.prefPane
Flash Player.prefPane
Flip4Mac WMV.prefPane
JavaControlPanel.prefPane
Launchpad-Control.prefPane
NTFS-3G.prefPane
OSXFUSE.prefPane
Perian.prefPane
SIXTY-EIGHT Audio Control Panel.prefPane
SL 2 Audio Control Panel.prefPane
SL 3 Audio Control Panel.prefPane
SL 4 Audio Control Panel.prefPane
Sixty-One Audio Control Panel.prefPane
Sixty-Two Audio Control Panel.prefPane
/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools:
SL2SettingsService
SL4SettingsService
SixtyEightSettingsService
SixtyOneSettingsService
SixtyTwoSettingsService
Sl3SettingsService
com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper
com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper
/Library/QuickLook:
QuickLookEyeTV.qlgenerator
iBooksAuthor.qlgenerator
iWork.qlgenerator
/Library/QuickTime:
AC3MovieImport.component
AppleHDVCodec.component
AppleIntermediateCodec.component
AppleMPEG2Codec.component
AppleProResCodec.component
DVCPROHDCodec.component
DVCPROHDMuxer.component
DVCPROHDVideoDigitizer.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutput.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutputClock.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutputCodec.component
DesktopVideoOut.component
DivX Decoder.component
DivX Encoder.component
FCP Uncompressed 422.component
Flip4Mac WMV Advanced.component
Flip4Mac WMV Export.component
Flip4Mac WMV Import.component
IMXCodec.component
Perian.component
/Library/ScriptingAdditions:
Adobe Unit Types.osax
Glims.osax
/Library/Spotlight:
Microsoft Office.mdimporter
iBooksAuthor.mdimporter
iWork.mdimporter
/Library/StartupItems:
VirtualBox
/etc/mach_init.d:
/etc/mach_init_per_login_session.d:
/etc/mach_init_per_user.d:
com.adobe.SwitchBoard.monitor.plist
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins:
SkypeABDialer.bundle
SkypeABSMS.bundle
Library/Fonts:
Library/Frameworks:
DotMacKit.framework
EWSMac.framework
MindFortress.framework
PMPluginsFramework.framework
PMPluginsFramework68kAligned.framework
SyncManagerCommon.framework
libical.framework
Library/Input Methods:
.localized
Library/Internet Accounts:
V1
Library/Internet Plug-Ins:
FacebookVideoCalling.bundle
Library/Keyboard Layouts:
Library/LaunchAgents:
com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
com.adobe.ARM.202f4087f2bbde52e3ac2df389f53a4f123223c9cc56a8fd83a6f7ae.plist
com.adobe.ARM.de23d1e3aa2d00ce38d73f10fcbdc8dcaaaf6be989610710a1ddda77.plist
com.apple.AddressBook.ScheduledSync.PHXCardDAVSource.9EA69D5D-CAF4-4CF6-8827-CCE 73BEC9A63.plist
com.apple.AddressBook.ScheduledSync.PHXCardDAVSource.AD6BE37E-A343-4019-AFF6-B02 3B57BFA11.plist
com.apple.FolderActions.enabled.plist
com.apple.FolderActions.folders.plist
com.divx.agent.postinstall.plist
com.facebook.videochat.Panos.plist
org.virtualbox.vboxwebsrv.plist
Library/PreferencePanes:
Library/Services:
OMCService.service
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$ osascript -e 'tell application "System Events" to get name of every login item' 2> /dev/null
iTunesHelper, Skype, Mail, Messages, Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, DockView
panoss-macbook:~ Panos$
If someone is able to help me with these I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.Cross references
I have to force quit Mail almost every time I shut down my computer?
Every time my mac boots up I have recovered files.
… I suspect that at the time of the problems, there was a file system inconsistency. … -
Why do I have to check low latency every time I want to record 1 track
I-Mac, 3.06 GHz Intel core 2 duo. 4GB RAM. Logic 9.1.1 Mac 10.6.4, Apogee Duet.. Theres no need for this in my main studio. Mac Pro, Motu 896. Even with 8 tracks recording.
OK here ya go. 2 different versions of logic and 2 different versions of SL. Every time you close and reopen a project. You have to check low latency again. I guess I just never noticed it in the main studio because I never needed it, Using a Mac Pro, Motu 896, Buffers set @ 512 Medium With multiple fire wire devices, Multiple midi devices, Recording 8 audio tracks at the same time. Never a problem. On the I-Mac With Apogeee duet. 1 Track with no plugins. Buffers @ 128 I need it. Go figure. Thanks for your input everyone. Bill
Message was edited by: cowbell bill -
Why is it that I need to put in my id password every time I want to erase a file on my laptop?
Why am I requested to put my Id password everytime I want to delete a file on my Macbook pro.I think I must have done a change in the setting somewhere. But it was not like that before. Thanks in advance.
Back up all data before proceeding.
This procedure will unlock all your user files (not system files) and reset their ownership, permissions, and access controls to the default. If you've intentionally set special values for those attributes on any of your files, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it, but you do need to follow the instructions below.
Step 1
If you have more than one user, and the one in question is not an administrator, then go to Step 2.
Triple-click anywhere in the following line on this page to select it:
sudo find ~ $TMPDIR.. -exec chflags -h nouchg,nouappnd,noschg,nosappnd {} + -exec chown -h $UID {} + -exec chmod +rw {} + -exec chmod -h -N {} + -type d -exec chmod -h +x {} + 2>&-
Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.
Launch the built-in Terminal application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.
Paste into the Terminal window by pressing command-V. I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key after pasting.
You'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. Type carefully and then press return. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.
The command may take several minutes to run, depending on how many files you have. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear, then quit Terminal.
Step 2 (optional)
Take this step only if you have trouble with Step 1, if you prefer not to take it, or if it doesn't solve the problem.
Start up in Recovery mode. When the OS X Utilities screen appears, select
Utilities ▹ Terminal
from the menu bar. A Terminal window will open. In that window, type this:
resetp
Press the tab key. The partial command you typed will automatically be completed to this:
resetpassword
Press return. A Reset Password window will open. You’re not going to reset a password.
Select your startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name) if not already selected.
Select your username from the menu labeled Select the user account if not already selected.
Under Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs, click the Reset button.
Select
▹ Restart
from the menu bar. -
The app store interface is maddening. if i enter my password wrong once i have to reset it?! much fail.
all im trying to do is download a free program, why do i have to enter payment information? i dont mind. but why cant i just skip it. so when i actually want to make a monetary purchase i can enter my information then?!Security. Anything less would be easy for folks to hack your account.
-
This is my first time using the Numbers App which I thought could organize my research data collection and at the same time speed up the summary and analysis of the data as well. However, I can't start on with it because I'm stuck with how to find the INPUT FORMS tab anywhere else in the screen. The tutorials instructed to tap the "+" button but in my app, after tapping the symbol it only adds new sheet, it doesn't show the "new sheet, new form" selection. I'm really confused and I want to know how to get it right. Please help me if I needed something to correct this
Hey lilianville!
I have an article here that seems to explain what you are trying to achieve:
Numbers for iOS (iPad): Enter data into a table cell
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH3370
Specifically, these are the steps that will help you complete your desired goal:
Note that it seems as if you would have to have a table created in order to enter forms as you desire. Thanks for using the Apple Support Communities. Have a good one!
-Braden -
Airport utility asks for password every time?
I have to enter my password every time I use the Airport utility. I enter it and exit the app and as soon as I click on it again I have tomre-enter the password again!
I tried to reset the AirPort Extreme and iPad. It works fine with all my iPhone and Mac. I tried to delete the app and reinstall it. No joy!Try the following on your MacBook Pro, in order, until (hopefully) resolved:
1. Delete AirPort Keychain Entries
Launch the "Keychain Access" application located in Applications/Utilties.
In the windows on the left side: Select login for Keychains and "All Items" for Category.
Click on the "Kind" filter at the top, and look for any "AirPort network password" entries...and delete them.
2. Move System Configuration Files
(Note: You will have to reestablish your network connections settings.)
Go to /Library/Preferences
Move the SystemConfiguration folder to the desktop.
Restart your Mac. (Note: OS X will rebuild the files that are now sitting on your desktop. If this doesn't resolve the issue, you can move the folder back to it's original location.) -
Must I reconnect to my wireless network EVERY time I want to watch ATV?
This seems like basic stuff to me, but I can’t find an answer anywhere, short of calling the support line….so thought I’d try here first.
EVERY time I sit down to view my ATV, if I want to use it outside of what I have synced to it, i.e. in streaming mode for iTunes, YouTube, Flickr, etc. I have to re-connect to my wireless network, including having to input my password every time. Is this standard procedure, or am I neglecting to “save” my password somewhere? I would have assumed that since it’s never really turned “off”, that it should stay connected to my network, without having to reconnect every time. I mean, I don’t have to input my network password every time I want to browse the web using Safari on my iMac…..why do have to repeatedly do this with my ATV?
It’s rather inconvenient, especially if other family members want to use ATV when I’m not around, as my network password is confidential. (And while we’re at it – is there any way to input your password without showing it?)
Any help would be appreciated – thanks.Question: have you installed the new Airport 2.0 software? If so, did the problem start after that?
I have had the same problem. A quick temporary fix -quicker than re-entering your password - is to unplug/replug the Apple TV. It should then rediscover the network: go to Settings:General: NW and see if it appears.
However, if we have the same problem, it won't hold the NW connection. It will lose it several times a day.
I bought an Apple TV the moment the came out a few years ago It always worked perfectly as a music and photo server, connecting wirelessly via Airport Extreme like you, the old round one]. Shortly after installing the software upgrade earlier this month, it lost its ability to see my home network or make an internet connection. After several hours trouble shooting with Apple, we were unable to correct this, and they concluded the ATV faulty and sent me a new one. The new one installed and connected perfectly, but after downloading the software upgrade [curiously the replacement unit had the old software] the new unit will not old an internet connection for more than an hour or so. I must unplug/replug the Apple TV to get it back, but it just looses it again in an hour or so. [NB: this is different than the issue which led to the replacement of the unit, as the original could not make a connection at all]. Now after several more hours of trouble shooting, Apple tells me the problem must be caused by magnetic interference from another system component, probably a loudspeaker. As I have had my current system configuration for 13 months, a sudden problem seems counter intuitive. Ia m now in process of re-locating the speaker six feet away to see if it solves the problem.
My son, A Berkely PhD EE and Computer Scientist, suggests that this could be caused by a bug in the 2.0 software, which is brand new and no doubt buggy. So I plan to re-set to 1.0 to see if that is the case.
I'll let you know!
I replaced the Airport Extreme with a Time Capsule the day before I installed the new ATV. Don't think the new TC is the issue as the old ATV went out wit the Airport Extreme.
Maybe you are looking for
-
Can no longer click sync ipod and it does not show devics on itunes
Would like help with snycing IPOD with computer
-
How Much Ram can I put in a MBP C2D 2.4 15" (08) (MB133LL/A)
Can I put 2x4gb modules? 8gb? Link?
-
Why wont my Logic Studio installer fully install?
i had manually uninstalled logic studio months ago.. now that i have an external hd im installing it again but it wont install many of the other components.. they are grayed out and uncheckable (soundtrack pro, compressor, apple loops, and many more)
-
How can I PRINT a simple list (e.g., .txt or .doc) of my bookmarks?
How can I PRINT a simple list (.txt or .doc) of my bookmarks?
-
I have been for the life of me trying to compile my custom AS3 classes into a SWC. But following the instructions to make a Flex Library Project into a SWC doesn't work. I get no error message or anything, The SWC just doesn't compile into the bin fo