I m doing operation subcontracting . i that i m converting planned order
dear sir
i m doing operation subcontracting . i that i m converting planned order into prod order . i m facing error like Error or warning occurred during master data transfer (see ). plz explain whole opration sub contracting step by step
Dear,
Procedure
1. Create Purchase Info Record using T code ME11.(Vendor & material combination) for subcontracting.
2. While creating routing for that header material and defining operation, For the
10 to 40th operation for which outsourcing is given set the control key as
PP02.After entering the control key as PP02 ,press enter -the system asks you
for the purchasing info record no & check the tick mark for Sub-contracting. Here
give the number which u obtained while using T code ME11.
4) The moment you release the order system will create the PR for all external processing operations.
5) That material you can transfer to your subcontracting vendor by ME2O or you can post transfer posting.
6) In transfer posting you need to mention as a reference of Subcontracting PO, which you have already converted from SubPR.
7) In that transfer posting, system will automaticaly generate 541Mtyp.
8) You need to create SubCon Challan (J1IF01), for the material which you are sending outside of your plant.
9) You need to mention that material doc number in creating challan.
10) The same challan will be reconcilled after receipt of the material thru simple MIGO process.
11) Your challan should get reconcilled by J1IFQ. It will remove the stock from supplier end from your system.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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