I & O in and out point selection glitch...

Hi,
Having a bit of a nightmare with a weird little glitch that has only just started happening with Premiere CS6.
(I don't know if it's relevant, I've now got Pr CC - but still using CS6 on some client projects. And this has only started happening afer CC install)
Anyway... Every time I'm selecting an 'in / out' point in the source monitor - the grey slider bar underneath is cropping in on the source footage. To be clear, I'm talking about when you select the source monitor and press + or - to zoom in on just a part of your source footage and the grey bar reduces in size.
So, when I'm trying to grab bits of footage from a take, it keeps zooming in on that slider bar. It's driving me nuts as I have to keep zooming back out after every time I make a selection!
Incidently, it happens when I click on the in out selection buttons in the source monitor and not just when using the I & O shortcut keys.
Can anyone please tell me what is going on, as it's making my edit a nightmare!
Thanks in advance!

Hi Don,
6.0.5 is now available. 6.0.5 fixes this bug. Sorry for your troubles.
Mac:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5630
Win:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5631
Peter Garaway
Adobe
Premiere Pro

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Tom, perhaps I used the wrong terminology, skimming not scrubbing. In the event browser on the thumbnails of my clips, I recall being able to skim to a point and then select the in and out points. It apparently is solved. I guess the reinstall fixed it. Well like taking your car to a mechanic its not making the clicking sound now.
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