I think I bought a dead board:(

Wither that or it has major issues...
I bought a MSI NF3 Neo 2 Platinum off Ebay ( a powerseller with 99%). New but with only a 30 day warrenty (stupid me didn't install it till after (opteron 146 hadn't arrived) the warrenty expired).
Well the board was in new nick with orginal box, parts, drivers ect.
Installed it, all worked fine, formatted XP, upgraded the bios and all the motherboards features with Live Update.
Then problems started happening. The machine wouldn't even boot into bios, restting the battery fixed it but this happened 2-3 times then it would auto reset itself to default (grr). Seen the other thread about battery problems I bought a new Panasonic battery, but it made zero difference.
The board more often than not doesn't fire up, or it restarts after going through the check. Starting it with default options seems to be the only way to get it into windows...
Have I bought a dud? I'm screwed if I have, sold my trusty old KT600 Delta to fund this upgrade:(

Quote from: MGP on 31-January-06, 10:59:59
Give us a list of your system specs to include P\S.
Things to try in the meantime, increase memory voltage to 2.6~2.7 and manually set memoryu timings to 2.5-5-7-5-2T
Ok its the MSI NF2 Neo 2 Platinum. (latest bios 1.BO)
Antec 480w True Blue psu (only 3 months old)
Opteron 146 currenty at stock
2x 1gig sticks of corsair DDr400 Value Select
Radeon X850XT PE AGP card
SB Audigy 2 ZS
XP Pro with SP2
1x 260gig IDE
1x 160gig IDE
1 DVD rom
1 DVD Burner
and 2 80mm exhaust fans.

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