I've Lost My Stereo Out Channel Strip

Some how I've lost my stereo out channel strip and can no longer hear my tracks. I see the levels moving when I play. I no longer see the vertical seconds lines in my main work area, nor can I deselect a track by touching the gray background. On the channel viewer on far left at the very bottom is a speaker with red X and "no out" marking. Using Logic Express. What wrong button did I push ? Here is a screen shot http://galleries.tomsalyer.com/picture%201.png Thanks in advance.

Ok, replaced the strip, thanks ! Also, somehow I had managed to unclick the " Input 1-2 " and "Stereo Out" buttons on all six track's channel strips, and once
I fixed those, I now can hear my output again.Don't know how I messed up, but will be careful in future ... they say you can't teach an old photographer new tricks, but am determined to learn audio

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ekaton wrote:
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