I wish I'd never installed Lion...

Just found another issue after installing Lion (things I wish I'd known first):
Compressor 2 just packed up as it 'couldn't connect to background services".
So I followed the advice given here (which I've had to do before under Leopard and Snow Leopard too): http://support.apple.com/kb/ta47672?viewlocale=en_us
Trouble is, I now cannot reinstall Compressor as Lion tells me it cannot cope with 'PowerPC' software.
Aaarrghhh!
This means that if I need to reinstall FinalCut Studio 5.1.4 I won't be able to - even though it works under Lion.
Does anybody have a workaround for this ridiculous situation?
Thanks.

And this has been the way Apple plays the game for a long time. When OSX was first introduced, many but not all earlier versions of software would play on it, but as the years passed and OSX was updated, many older applications would no longer work. Editing software is particularly demanding on hardware and OS and Apple made the decision to optimize the OS for newer software. And I'm not sure windows 7 would be able to run a version of avid that was 5 years old.
I understand your frustration, but good luck at changing Apple.

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I have bought OS X Lion 1.7 in august 2011 in Apple Store but I never installed (I had download in pause). I have tried to complete download but Lion 1.7 is not in disposable in Italian Store. How is possible for me update my Snow Leopard?

I have bought OS X Lion 1.7 in Apple Store on august 2011 but I never installed it (I had download in pause). To day I have tried to complete download but Lion 1.7 is not more disposable in Italian Store. How is possible update my Snow Leopard to Lion or (better) Mountain Lion?

Ciao Giampo,
As you're running Snow Leopard and you have a MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo, you CAN upgrade directly to Mountain Lion so long as you have at least 2GB of Memory and 7GB of available space on your hard drive. So, once you check that your MacBook Pro meets these requirements you can download Mountain Lion from the App Store.
I'm not sure, but I think you will have to pay €15.99 for the upgrade even though you never managed to completely download your upgrade to Lion.
Tricia

How many computers can you install Lion after purchasing from App store. My wife and I have our own Apple ID will it accept 2 different ID

I have a MacBook Pro and an iMac . My wife has a MacBook and an iMac. How many computers are you allowed to install from one download. We both use Apple products and have our own Apple ID. Can I download Lion on her computers after I have both of mine installed? Or does she have to buy LION again using her Apple ID# ?

A single purchase of Lion will allow you to download it multiple times as long as you use your Apple ID.
If your wife wishes to install Lion, she must sign into the App Store with your Apple ID.
Source: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4854

How do I install Lion on an MBP with Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Boot Camp'd XP and a Master Boot Record?

I think this is called "a pickle."
The machine is a 13" MacBook Pro, 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo w/ 4 GB RAM and a 500 GB HDD.
The HDD has a Snow Leopard 10.6.8 partition, and a Windows XP partition, via Boot Camp. Its Partition Map Scheme, sadly, is a Master Boot Record. I need to reformat it to a GUID Partition Table scheme to install Lion, but when I attempt to boot it from the Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD to wipe the drive, it grey-screens. Dead end.
From what I can gather on the forums, I can't boot a 10.6.8 machine using a Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD. I can't find my grey DVDs for this machine – still looking for those – but I expect those won't work either, being Leopard-generation?
The machine works fine, for the most part, including the optical drive. Has occassional display and wake glitches. Its HDD is backed up on a Drobo via Time Machine. I also have a 15" MBP Core i7 (with the exact same problem: 10.6.8, XP, MBR) which I can use for Target Disk Mode via FireWire. If I try to wipe the HDD on the 13", using Disk Utility on the 15" via Target Disk Mode, will the 13" then boot successfully from the Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD?
I just want to wipe the 13" machine, reinstall a fresh copy of Snow Leopard, then update it to Lion and restore from Time Machine, and never touch anything Windows-related ever again. (And then do the same for my 15", for which I've found my 10.6.3 grey disc. Not sure if that's any more promising.)
Any help appreciated!

Sounds like something is wrong with your disk. Have you tried cleaning it?
The Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD is fine – it mounts on both my 13" and 15", and I successfully created an image of it on my 15". I also tried my wife's Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD, also clean, which produced the same grey screen result.
Have you tried to use boot camp to erase the Windows partition?
Yep, this is supposed to be the proper way to remove a Windows XP partition from Boot Camp, so this was the first thing I tried. I get the same error as everyone with a Master Boot Record scheme appears to get:
The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition.
Back up the disk and use Disk Utility to format it as a single Mac OS X Extended (Journaled) volume. Restore your information to the disk and try using Boot Camp Assistant again.
So, if I can't launch the Disk Utility from the Snow Leopard DVD, my next best guess is wiping it from my 15" over Target Disk Mode. However, if I try that, and still can't get it to boot from the Snow Leopard 10.6.0 DVD, then I'm stuck with an MBP without an OS.
My conclusion – that 10.6.0 DVDs can't boot to 10.6.8 machines – was based on forum posts about downgrading from Lion. I was wondering if there's a way to create a "10.6.8 restore DVD," and try booting from that. Shot in the dark perhaps.

15 inch Mid-2010 MacBook Pro freezing since installing Lion

I've had this problem for a while now. It started a few weeks after I installed Lion in the summer. My MacBook Pro would just freeze without warning and the only thing I can do is a force shutdown. I've checked the logs, and these freezes do not log themselves like other crashes, there is no record of them happening. I have also noticed that Apple has identified that my particular model of MacBook Pro can experience an issue where it may freeze intermittently or stop displaying video, and as such they put out an update to help remedy this, which I have installed and the problem still exists.
The freeze appears to happen application by application. One application may freeze, so I attempt to force quit this, but then the force quit window freezes, and then whatever else I click results in a spinning wheel, forcing me to hold down the power button to restart my Mac. I never had this issue with Snow Leopard, it has only started since I upgraded to Lion.
I have taken it into an Apple store, and they could not indentify any issues since there were no logs of the crashes. They wiped my laptop and suggested I try using it for a while without any of my data on it to see if the freezes still happened - they didn't. He then said not to restore my data from a Time Machine backup as any bugs that may be causing these freezes would also be restored. Therefore, I installed every application manually and only copied over my documents and music manually. For a few months, this fixed the issue, but I have noticed that it has started happening again, more and more frequently just like before.
I've also run the Apple Hardware Test that came with my Mac and it found no issues. I've also reset the SMC and PRAM to no avail.
My specs are:
2.4GHz Intel Core i5
8GB RAM
500GB HDD
Lion 10.7.3
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this issue or knows why it is happening, please let me know, I would greatly appreciate it.
Apologies for the long description, I wanted to be a detailed as possible.
Thanks,
Nathan

Hello Nathan, Linc Davis,
I have had the same problem, except without Sophos or Google Talk. I don't know if you still keep up with this thread, but if so, I have followed your steps. Any help would be very greatly appreciated:
Step 1
com.vara.driver.VaraAudio (1.0.3)
Step 2
com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper
com.adobe.SwitchBoard
Step 3
com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager
com.google.keystone.user.agent
com.google.GoogleContactSyncAgent
com.adobe.AAM.Scheduler-1.0
Step 4
/Library/Components:
/Library/Extensions:
/Library/Frameworks:
AECore.framework
AEProfiling.framework
AERegistration.framework
Adobe AIR.framework
AudioMixEngine.framework
Compressor.framework
EWSMac.framework
FxPlug.framework
HPDeviceModel.framework
HPPml.framework
HPServicesInterface.framework
HPSmartPrint.framework
MacFUSE.framework
Maple.framework
MediaServerAPI.framework
NyxAudioAnalysis.framework
PluginManager.framework
ProFX.framework
Qmaster.framework
StuffIt.framework
TSLicense.framework
XSKey.framework
iLifeFaceRecognition.framework
iLifeKit.framework
iLifePageLayout.framework
iLifeSQLAccess.framework
iLifeSlideshow.framework
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SogouInput.app
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins:
DRM Plugin.bundle
Flash Player.plugin
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
Mathematica.plugin
Quartz Composer.webplugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
SharePointWebKitPlugin.webplugin
Silverlight.plugin
flashplayer.xpt
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
npContributeMac.bundle
nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt
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com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist
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com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
com.apple.aelwriter.plist
com.apple.remotepairtool.plist
com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
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Flip4Mac WMV.prefPane
Launchpad-Control.prefPane
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com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper
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GBQLGenerator.qlgenerator
iWork.qlgenerator
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AppleIntermediateCodec.component
AppleMPEG2Codec.component
DVCPROHDCodec.component
DVCPROHDMuxer.component
DVCPROHDVideoDigitizer.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutput.component
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DVCPROHDVideoOutputCodec.component
DesktopVideoOut.component
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Flip4Mac WMV Advanced.component
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Flip4Mac WMV Import.component
LiveType.component
SoundboothScoreCodec.component
XiphQT.component
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Adobe Unit Types.osax
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GBSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
Microsoft Entourage.mdimporter
Microsoft Office.mdimporter
Wolfram Notebook.mdimporter
iMovie.mdimporter
iWeb.mdimporter
iWork.mdimporter
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Qmaster
Type Agent
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Arial
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Sogou
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Smart Crash Reports
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Unity Player.plugin
fbplugin_1_0_3.plugin
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com.google.GoogleContactSyncAgent.plist
com.google.keystone.agent.plist
com.iLike.Agent.plist
com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
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novamedia_iSyncPlugins.prefPane
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OmniOutliner Professional.service
Step 5
2012-03-28 23:35:44.609 osascript[387:707] Error loading /Users/TaylorJames/Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX: dlopen(/Users/TaylorJames/Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:
/Users/TaylorJames/Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax/Contents/MacOS/24U Appearance OSAX: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
osascript: OpenScripting.framework - scripting addition "/Users/TaylorJames/Library/ScriptingAdditions/24U Appearance OSAX.osax" declares no loadable handlers.
System Events, Aurora Wakeup Helper, SpeechSynthesisServer, Dropbox

Very erratic behaviour since installing Lion - where do I start

Since installing Lion a few weeks ago on my Macmini I've have a couple of issues which are bugging (no pun intended) the life out of me. I'm almost at the point of doing a complete erase and install of Lion it's that bad. Normally I always do an erase and install when upgrading OSX but the setup of my mini is such that it would take me a long time to rebuild it from scratch. That'll teach me.. I just upgraded Lion on top of Snow Leopeard, whereas on my MBP I did a clean install of Lion and no problems.
Here are the issues on my mini:
1) In the past couple of days I've had a couple of kernal panics "You need to restart your computer..." I've never had this before on any of my Mac's. The only thing that has changed on my system is that I've updated a driver for my WD MyBook drive, which I use as my TM backup. Since upgrading to Lion I switched off time machine and only turned this back on because I thought I'd reached a general steady state with my system and after installing the driver update. I've since disabled TM so fingers crossed no more problems..
2) On serveral occasions, whilst using back to my mac, to screenshare my mini on my MBP, I've had windows and hard drives disappear off screen. If I do a right mouse click on my finder I can view the windows on screen but when I select them they disapear. I have a feeling that mission control is doing something, but I never use this, nor do I have anything set-up, other than the intial configuration. This is *really* doing my head in. I can usually fix it by changing the screen dimensions on my mini through the Display control panel or switching my TV over to the hdmi input so I can view the desktop directly on my TV (as opposed to screensharing).
I'm not really sure if this is a problem with mission control, or back to my mac, or a video input problem (I'm using a mini displayport to dvi and dvi to hdmi cable to connect the mini to my TV).
Any troubleshooting suggestions would be greatly appreciated, particulalry for issue 2.
VP

Since I don't do any cloudy stuff, all I can address is the KPs.See
What is a kernel panic,
Technical Note TN2063: Understanding and Debugging Kernel Panics,
Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ,
Resolving Kernel Panics, and
Tutorial: Avoiding and eliminating Kernel panics for more details.

I am trying to install Lion on my imac and it says it can't make a recovery disk

I am trying to install lion and receive a message saying it can't make a recovery disk. I am using a 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac. I do have bootcamp on it, but was never able to install Windows.

What happens when Lion installs is it creates a Lion Recovery Partition at the very bottom area of the drive, this is used to Command R boot into and perform Disk Utility Repairs and reinstall Lion from Apple's servers much like a 10.6 disk will.
So when you ran the Lion installer, it couldn't create this small partiiton, either because the GUID partition table (the map of your paartitions on the drive) is borked or there is data all the way to the bottom of the drive or OS X thinks there is.
You set up the bootcamp parittion, so run that and delete the Bootcamp partition as your not using it or Windows, once it's finished reboot and try installing Lion again.
I should warn you, Lion will not run your Rosetta based software or hardware drivers for external hardware, you may have to purchase all new versions. Not only that, hardware drivers may not be available for 10.7 thus rendering your third party printers, scanners etc useless.
Before you install Lion, you should consult this web page
http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
to see if your current programs will break and when to expect a new version (likely paid)
Also you shoudl check your hardware and the makers site if there is a 10.7 compatible driver/software for them.
And once you think your ready to go to Lion, get a blank external powered drive and a free/donationware copy of Carbon Copy Cloner to clone your present (non-Filevault) 10.6 boot drive to the external drive.
Later if 10.7 doesn't work for you, simply hold the option key and boot off the 10.6 clone, use Disk Utility to Erase the entire drive (the whole drive!) and reverse clone 10.6 back onto the internal drive.
http://www.bombich.com/get_ready_for_lion.html

Unable to load many web based games after installing lion

After installing Lion, I am unable to launch several online games (Pogo e.g.). What compatibility issues are being addressed?

I didn't think reinstalling was gonna do me any good except for getting rid of every single thing I have ever installed since getting this MBP. I'm thinking it has to be something that is on my computer causing this, especially since it only affects my ability to get to this one site and I only started seeing this problem yesterday.
So, I went ahead and disabled all my Chrome extensions and I don't have any Safari extensions at all. That didn't fix my issue.
I've been trying to run Sophos on here, thinking that maybe I've got a Trojan or some kind of malware, but it never seems to finish a full scan of my hard drive. That "Plugin" that I mentioned above has me very suspicious, except that whatever that is, it's been on my computer since basically when I first got it. Maybe it's malicious, or maybe it's just a poorly named piece of software. In any case, it got updated last night around 11pm, about the same time I noticed my problem. After trying everything I have, it's hard for me to overlook that as coincidence.
But, where do I go to gain more information about what that could be? I should mention that this MBP is basically my first Apple computer. I've been a PC guy (still am mostly) forever, but I finally dove in and got a Mac to start iOS development. So I'm sure there are ways to get more information than I am currently aware of.
Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong forum.

I need to have both Snow leopard and Lion...Mountain lion running on my iMac. How do I install Lion or Mountain lion on an Ext H D and boot from it?

My software is obsolete (and now dead) in 10.7 so I need to keep Snow leopard alive to run that- but now things like TurboTax are dropping support for 10.6 or lower and I have to have lion or Mountain Lion available. I actually downloaded Lion onto a thumb drive but never installed it when I found out that it would immedaitely render all my FreeHand files inaccessible (years of work!), Now that I am forced to have an OS above 10.6 I was hoping I could install whichever--Lion or Mountain Lion onto an external hard drive and figure out how to boot from that (found something in archives I think, but I need words of one syllable or less). This way I could, ideally, boot from either the External hard drive in the higher OS when needed, or from the internal hard drive when I need to use Snow leopard. There is a long story here, but I think this is the gist. I wasn not sure if this should be asked here or in either Lion or Mountain Lion (both of which I have, essentially, ignored since I would not be moving up until I could figure out how to access those old files of forms and drawings00but now I have no choice. I am panicking now that I HAVE to make the move anbd cannot afford to buy another Mac just to keep two separately running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. i asked Apple when Lion came out and they said there was no way to partition (even if I KNEW how to do that) the haaard drive and install both on my iMac-- but I "think" this is a bit different and possible??? Thanks (once/if I figure this out, I need to figure out how to back-up but that is another matter)

You need to move to Windows 7, because Apple is now releasing a new OS X version annually and it's playing havoc with people's hardware and software.
Windows 7 will get support until 2020, that's 8 years of software stability, however you do need to make System Restore disks, boot disk and another on a hard drive to self restore (like TimeMachine is for OS X)
Apple has no plans to change their currrent behavior as all they care about is selling new hardware with a shiny new OS X verison on it.
If you wait to move, what will happen is you'll lose that full 8 years and will have to swtich to a newer Windows sooner
Windows 7 machines are still widely avaialble, despite Windows 8 (a failure) being pushed currently.
Running three OS X operating systems on one machine is quite a chore reserved for only seasoned computer geeks, then it's only going to last X months as the next OS X version will be released, then the next a year after that.
Another method would be to get a virtual machine software (virtualbox is free) and install Windows 7 into that to ease your transitition if you cant' spring for a Windows 7 machine, preferablly a tower that will last a long time.
Here is a method to run Snow Leopard in Parallels, however it's a unapproced hack and not for the comptuer newbie.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439
We have no control over Apple's OS X release cycle, nor the third party developers who make their own decisions what to support.
Our only choice as users to stop using both products and seek software/hardware stability.

I installed Lion this week and my life is over ..

when I try to use PowerPoint in Lion for inserting a file into the presentation it now crashes. how do i fix this?
when I try to charge my iPhone in Lion it does not charge and its not the cable, it works for itunes. how do I fix this?
and I NOTE THAT I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A JOB HUNT AND LION IS A BIG PROBLEM HERE as the iphone is needed. the cable that came with the iphone that I purchased all together in box, was shredded in about 3 months of normal use, first, the tiny white rubber piece at the end of the wire (almost immediately), split in middle, then the whole wire covering started to slide out from the little split part, and next the wires started to slide out, and one came loose - all very dangerous, I could have been electrocuted by the bare wires ..... since I needed a new charger cable immediately to use the iphone, and purchased a new USB charger locally, so I wouldn't get electrocuted I did not even bother to contact APPLE to complain or ask for a new one and handled it myself and used my new cable for about 3 years until today when it is suddenly incompatible, not supported even though it is in perfect condition.
(in addition the original headphones had the same problem, and those were replaced under the warranty still in effect at the time).
My son who is also on my iphone plan, is mad about other iPhone compatibility issues I wont get into here, tells me to get us ANDROIDs and stop using Apple. He says this is intentional as they dont want me to use non-APPLE products and that, that is why my charger cable stopped working after i installed Lion ...... IS THIS TRUE?
ALSO - When I try to use PhotoShop nnow it does not even open. how do i fix this?
As I am stuck with my MAC, I have no way to get a new computer, software, or new phone package - not rich
AND
I am SO MAD THAT I INSTALLED AND PURCHASED LION, can any of this be fixed????
Thanks
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With regard to PowerPoint, what version of MS Office do you have? Is it crashing, or refusing to open? If the latter, and you're seeing a message about not being able to open PowerPC software, you need to upgrade MS Office. The same applies to Photoshop.
Sounds like there's something wrong with your system. What that might be, I don't know, but you can try some of the suggestions in Understanding upgrade nightmares. (Note that my pages contain links to other pages that promote my services, and this should not be taken as an endorsement of my services by Apple.)
Your son's comments are - no offense - nonsense. MS Office works just fine with Lion, as long as you have a version newer than 2004. Recent enough versions of Photoshop should also work just fine. Apple does not have a problem with you using non-Apple software or hardware. If they did, they would quickly go out of business.
If you cannot afford to upgrade your software, you'll need to downgrade to Snow Leopard. See here for instructions:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3525616
Note that in the future you should check compatibility of all your hardware and software with any new system before upgrading, and you should never upgrade at a time when having your computer accessible is critical. Things can always go wrong when upgrading to any new system.

Although I am new to mac, I am not new to computers and purchasing online. I can't sign into the App store after installing Lion. I have had to change my password 4 times in 2 days . I am so sick of this. I am trying to buy a tutorial for Lion.

I recently downloaded Lion and since have had nothing but problems with my new i-Mac. My problem with the App store is only one issue. Has anyone out there had any trouble with their components after installing Lion 10.7??????? After several hours on the phone with a tech my situation isn't any better. I think the tech is sick of talking with me. He was supposed to call me today and the phone never rang. He told me he was working on something to repair my problems and needed to talk with engineers. How long could that take???? If it wouldn't hurt the person who gifted me this i-Mac, I would give it back.

your itunes accoutn have nothing to d with your computer
you can go to any computer with internet access in the world and
login into your itunes account if you have the appleID and password
the itunes account is placed on apples itunes servers

What is the best order to upgrade to Lion after putting in a brand new hard drive in my MacBook Pro? Restore first? or install Lion First?

I have a 2008 macbook pro with brand new 500GB hard drive and 6GB new RAM. My old hard drive is backed up on external drive, via time machine. When the shop put in the new hard drive (there was nothing wrong with old one, it was just stuffed to the brim), they loaded snow leopard from a disk, but I haven't put anything from the old drive back on yet....I haven't even configured my mail and am just reading mail from ipad and phone these days.
Question: Should I install Lion before I restore all the old backed-up stuff, or is it important to have anything, ( like maybe preferences) already on the computer when I download Lion. I want to be selective when restoring from time machine, because my old hard drive had a lot of ancient software and junk on it that had migrated from every computer we've ever owned, and that is many, many.
So, I'm just stuck on the best way to proceed. Also, should I install the latest update for 10.6.8 before I download Lion? I see today that some new updates have become available; java, security, safari, and apple software installer.
Thanks
G.T.

Gaye Thomas wrote:
But I just read your next post, and it sounds like you think I should do the back-up first, or am I missing something. I think you are now recommending that:
1. First I should install Snow Leopard,
2. do the combo update of 10.6.8
3. THEN USE BACKUP to restore what I want to carry over to new drive.
4. Then upgrade to Lion.
I would restore SL and do the Combo 10.6.8 update. Then use your backup to load back in what you want. Then do the upgrade to Lion.
So what made you change your mind?
And, just to say again, the hard drive is completely new. The shop installed 10.6.8 from the installation CD, and I haven't even configured email. I'm only using safari. I just now downloaded 4 updates that software updater recommended. It now tells me it is up to date. Is there any reason to do a 10.6.8 combo updater?
Are you recommending to do the back up BEFORE I install Lion, so that there are some preferences and information about old passwords and certain information that Lion will want to know about? Will it make my life easier to back up BEFORE I install Lion?
What changed my mind was your second post. You don't want to carry over everything to the new drive and the install of Lion. You only want selective things and of course your personal files.
For that I "feel" it best to install SL, Update SL to the most current version, Then selectively restore the parts you want and then install Lion on top of that newest install of SL with the selectively restored parts on the new Hard drive.
That should give you as clean an upgrade as you can get.
Of course you could go a completely different route. Make the Lion install USB, Save all your program Install files you want to be installed in Lion along with your personal files. Then Wipe the drive and install Lion clean. Then RE-Install your programs and copy over your personal files.
That is what I would do as I do not like upgrading to a new OS over the top of an older one. I have never found that to be as clean and it always seems to carry over stuff from the older OS to the new one. But that is me.

IMac won't boot from/install Lion. Why?

I have a 2006-model iMac (iMac5,1 with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo processor and 2.5GB RAM; this is one of Apple's supported configurations for Lion) which has been running quite nicely for several years now. About a year or so ago I moved it to 10.6 which went smooth as silk. Last week I decided to move it to 10.7 and right about now I'm ready to throw this iMac in the effin' trash. It simply WILL NOT boot from OS X 10.7 no matter what.
I first put my 10.7 installer on the computer while it was running 10.6. I launched it, it copied a bunch of stuff, then restarted the computer. Then....nothing. I got the Apple logo with the spinner. I waited about 20 minutes for something greater to happen but nothing did so I forced a shut down. Unfortunately that attempt seems to have destroyed my previous 10.6 installation. Any further attempt to start from that hard drive yields an infinite spinner with the Apple logo but never any desktop or anything useful.
I then put my old iMac into Target Disk Mode, connected it to my newer iMac (iMac7,1 with 4GB RAM running 10.7.4), and used Disk Utility to reformat the old iMac's hard drive. That went fine. I then ran the OS X 10.7 installer on my new iMac, directing it to install onto the old iMac's hard drive. It took about 10 minutes to copy its files then directed me to restart which I did. I got the spinner-with-Apple for a few minutes followed by a spinner-with-circle-slash forever (about 15 minutes before I forced a shut down). I was able to reboot my newer iMac from its internal hard drive without any issues but every time I tried booting the newer iMac from the older iMac's hard drive I would get the spinner-with-Apple for a few minutes followed by a spinner-with-circle-slash forever thing. The same thing happened when I took the older iMac out of TDM and tried to boot it from its own hard drive. Trying that in verbose mode shows "Waiting for DSMOS" as the final line before the machine stalls. It is important to note that (a) this is a legitimately purchased Lion license that I bought last year, and (b) I'm trying to install it on an Apple iMac, not a Hackintosh.
Next, I ran the Recovery Disk Assistant to create a bootable 10.7 recovery USB drive. The creation of the drive went fine and I'm able to boot my newer iMac from the drive — but I cannot boot the older iMac from it, again getting the spinner-with-Apple for a few minutes followed by a spinner-with-circle-slash forever thing. Verbose mode shows the DSMOS error again.
My next step was to extract the "InstallESD.dmg" bootable system image from the installer app and clone that onto a USB drive. That went fine and I was able to boot my newer iMac from that drive but I was unable to boot the older iMac from that drive, again getting the spinner-with-Apple for a few minutes followed by a spinner-with-circle-slash forever thing with verbose mode showing the DSMOS error.
Next I tried to reverse things. I put my newer iMac into TDM, connected it to the older iMac, and tried to boot the older iMac from the newer iMac's hard drive. This failed too. I never got the circle-slash thing, only the Apple logo forever. Verbose mode shows the last line being "BootCacheControl: Unable to open /var/db/BootCache.playlist: 2 No such file or directory".
Finally, I pulled out a spare external hard drive. From my new iMac I booted from my USB drive (the one I cloned "InstallESD.dmg" onto), installed Lion onto the external drive, and booted successfully from the external drive. Everything was running perfectly. I ran System Update until everything was fully updated, then connected that external drive to the old iMac and tried to boot. Again, Apple logo forever with verbose mode showing the BootCacheControl error.
To ensure that the older iMac was fully operational I dug out the old OS install discs and ran the "extended" diagnostic. Everything came up perfect with no errors.
I then pulled out my OS X 10.6 DVD and tried booting the older iMac from it. That worked perfectly, and I was able to format and install 10.6 without any hiccups or issues whatsoever. The iMac is perfectly operational under 10.6.
So why the phargl can't I get 10.7 on this bloody machine?!?!?

In addition to MGW's suggestion...........
See the following Articles:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25497 Older versions of Mac OS than what comes with your computer
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25517 Mac OS: Versions, builds included with PowerPC Macs (since 1998)
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Without the original System DVDs that came w/the iMac, all you have is a glorified doorstop. You need the System DVDs to troubleshoot. *Especially Install Disc #1.*
You can get replacement System Install & Restore CD/DVDs from Apple's Customer Support - in the US, (800) 767-2775 - for a nominal S&H fee. You'll need to have the model and/or serial number of your Mac available.
If you're not in the US, you may need to go through the regional Apple Store that serves your location to find the contact number. Here's a list of links to all of those -
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/intlstoreroutingpage.html

I think I messed up by not installing Lion on an external drive when my install didn't work

I purchased Lion but was unable to install (just read other threads on Lion installation problems!). I was unable to repair my drive so after many days of putsing around I erased hard drive so I could repair it and then I reset my pram. All is well with my Imac and everything is running smoothly. Problem is that I was never able to install Lion (didn't think about usb drive), so can I get Lion from Itunes, or was that a wasted purchase since my drive was erased?

I don't think you understand. When I was unable to install I went to disk utility and try to repair my disk, that was unsuccessful and all other measures were as well. I had already purchased Lion. I did not save it to anything or copy it. I ended up having to erase my hard drive though and now I obviously don't have the prompt to install. When I go to the app store it is saying I have to purchase Lion again. I am asking if I do have to or is there a way that I didn't just throw away $19.99

Installing Lion 10.7.1 or later on a new hard drive

I just bought a new Macbook Pro 17". Guess what??? No installation disks. Only a "recovery" app. How would one go about installing Lion 10.7.1 or later on a new hard drive without a local copy of the system?
I just talked with Support. Apparently, Apple expects you to download the entire system from their computers if you want to install Lion 10.7.1 or higher onto a new drive. The person I spoke with said that you would boot up on a USB drive and then the software would download the system at that time. The problem is, it is a 7 GB download.
I don't know about you but I don't have time to wait 3 days for a download to finish. I say 3 days because I was just downloading a recovery software update (500 MB in size) and Apple's servers were sending it at 60 Kbps per second. My math tells me at that rate a 7 GB download will take somewhere around 32 hours. And that is assuming the download doesn't get interrupted and can recover if it does without starting over from the beginning.
Even if I could reasonably expect 500 Kbps on my connection speed, it will still take 4 hours (and I haven't seen Apple's systems ever run anywhere close to that speed).
Before someone mentions downloading the Lion upgrade software from Apple, be aware that this computer came with Lion 10.7.2. There is no upgrade. And according to Apple, Lion 10.7.1 and later will never have any system disks.
I don't mind the download if I can do it NOW and not when I am in the middle of installing the system.
So I ask again: How would one go about installing Lion 10.7.1 or later on a new hard drive without a local copy of the system? Does Apple seriously expect you to download the entire system at the time you are installing the system?????
There has to be a way around this debacle.

So the question remains: How to install from a local copy?
There is no easy way.
If your Mac came with Lion preinstalled, your options are:
1. Make a bootable clone immediately (before adding any apps or other files). Keep that for emergency purposes.
2. Make a second bootable clone whenever there are major changes (and with all your apps and files installed).
3. Purchase the USB stick from Apple for $69.
4. You cannot purchase or download Lion from MAS (except with/through your internet recovery option) because you did not purchase Lion there in the first place (unless you were to completely erase your hard drive and then purchase/download Lion from MAS and then copy/save the installer to a safe place).
shldr2thewheel:
discs are becomming a thing of the past
I don't believe that is going to happen quite as quickly as Apple hopes it will.
P.S. I give up on the formatting - three tries: your name shows up fine in the reply window and then gets messed up......

I wish I'd never installed Lion...

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