I7 3820 vs. 3939

Hi
I run CS6 on an i7 3820 with 16 gb ram.
I am considoring an upgrade to 3930, but I am a bid unsure if it's worth the extra money?
Any thoughts on this is would be really apreciated.
Thanks. :)
Ulf

Thanks Eric
Can I ask you one more thing then. In the same PC I have the Geforce 570 card. Would it be worth the extra money to upgrade to the 680 too?
Thanks a lot
/Ulf

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it is dead to me.
there are some serious key flaws with MSI.
Why is the BIOS chip soldered surface mount, if BIOS are always outdated, why not install a socket BIOS chip, this would then be a very straight forward fix
Why do I need a CPU installed to flash my BIOS, ASUS has this feature on their motherboard, this could easily be fixed in this case
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Also, I think it's waste of time for OC Genie as it's not always working and not for everyone. Just make standard OC in BIOS and get on with it
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"The 3820, like all current LGA 2011 CPUs, hits an overclocking brick wall of around 4.7GHz with air cooling"
What are you talking about?? Have you try this your selft? In which x79 MB? And Which air cooling???
"(even after raising the BCLK from the default 100MHz to 125MHz)"
My guess is BCLK will be manual and the ideal is to use the tasted 100MHZOriginal, 125MHz, 133MHz and 166Mhz. as it is for the 3930.
"As a result, the 3820 is not sufficiently faster than a 2600K or 2700K to justify the $100 to $150 additional cost of the CPU/motherboard combo (since the least expensive worthwhile X79 mobo costs $100 to $150 more than a good Z68 mobo)."
The 3820 @ 4.8 ghz, 10MB Cache, 64gb ram, 4chanell DDR3. I guess will do better tham 2700k.
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My first overclock (msi X79A-GD45)+(i7 3820)

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This is my first time here, I am lokking for someone that can help me to overclock my pc.
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CPU: i7 3820
RAM: 16 GB DDR3 Quad channel 1600 mhz
ALI: corsair modular 750 bronze
heatsink: corsair hydro series 110
Windows 8.1 64 bit
I don't know why my cpu remains stuck at 37x even if I put the multipler to 40...

Quote from: darkhawk on 20-June-15, 10:54:40
You can only lower the multiplier on non-k version Intel CPU's.
Judging by your post, you probably didn't know that.
Unfotuantely I have to correct that i7 3820 (like all socket 2011 i7 cpus) is unlocked. Only Xeon cpus for 2011 are not.
andrea.montis.pitti, here is an example of oc with the i7 3820. Make sure to disable power saving features like C-State.
Quote from: flobelix on 04-November-12, 01:10:08
Current machine: MSI X79-GD65 (8D) (MS-7760) Bios 1.18 B7, Core i7 3820 (C2) @ 4428.84 MHz (103*43) 1.296V

X79A-GD65(8D) with i7-3820 weak overclock.

Hello again. It was a long time ago i was here and i thought i could drop in here for a little discussion.
I'm trying to overclock my CPU to a cool 5GHz as i once did with crazy voltages everywhere before i knew better, anyway i cant get it stable today with safe voltages, not even reasonable BCLK's or anything.
I cant get over 105MHz even at VCore at 1.44v SA at 1.2, PLL at 1.95 with all turbo functions and EIST turned off...
Anyway, i can forward you some links to some pictures.
What i would like is some tips for getting a stable OC.... I've seen people on the net who has like 130MHz BCLK and 37x multi but i don't know how they go it stable.
Now i'm running 105MHz BCLK with a 43x multi.
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/9471/printcp.jpg Screenprint.
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/628/p1030431pd.jpg Picture of actual computer.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx Added some pictures from BIOS. Three pictures are of the "Overclocking" page in a row to show all settings and variables.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/bios1j.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/bios2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/bios3it.jpg/
And a picture of the CPU settings page
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/bios4cpu.jpg/
I would be glad if knowing people could give tips and tricks about how to stabilize CPU at higher BCLK's so i can use the multiplier to get to 5GHz if possible.
Why you might ask, well simply to have done it. Once i've got there (if possible) i'll downclock to around 4GHz or even stock maybe since the CPU has never bottlenecked or ever will in any forseable future.
To start i've put together a list of different voltages for raising the question about what its maximum recomended setting is(Preferably with the Intel i7-3820) and what they might be called on the MSI board or if it's event possible to change the value for it.
VTT
PLL
VVC
VSA
PCH1.1
PCH1.5
Thats all the voltage settings i could think of exept DRAM voltages.
And as a little off topic adventure slightly connected to this cpu/socket, i've heard rumors both here on Swedish sites and other that a Ivy Bridge-E will be marketed around the time that Haswell(Which i suppose is a Ivy development and not a whole new architexture) comes out.

Hi flobelix.
Okay, that sounds weird. I have a memory of me getting to 5GHz and discussing it on a forum where they said i was going to degrade my circuits really fast since i used crazy voltages everywhere, I have a feeling it was on this forum in a kind of "laid-back" sub-forum.
But i cant seem to find any threads other then a memory issue thread some months back when my system was new. You and a few other forum-elites helped me aswell. Getting a bit scared now.
Anyway it does feel like running through a brick wall with the Bclk. I can set my strap to 1.0, 1.25...
Do you or anyone have any tips or tricks on what i should test and change?
EDIT: I have to roam the streets of google and look through the deepest parts of the internets to unveil this mystery.
EDIT2: Mein got! I've found it https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=161657.0
-- Allegedly i've use a bclk strap och 1.25 and set bclk at 125MHz with a multiplier at x40

Big Bang bundle and i7-3820 heavy oc.

So!
My set is now "run in" and I´m about to do some (hopefully) heavy oc:ing.
Spec:
Big Bang Bundle
Xpower II X79
i7-3820
MSI 7970
32Gb G-Skill 1600Mhz ram
2x256Gb Samsung 830(Raid0)
3Tb WD Hdd
Cooling
2 massive loops with each a 320 rad an PnP Scythe fans!
Cpu: EK supreme HF
Gpu: Ek Acetal/Nickel
temps in original settings:
cpu:
idle, 21-28c (a bit strange core 0 and 3 are several c higher, remounted block and paste 2 times with no different result, so It just cant get better:( )
Load, 45-55c
So, there´s room for good oc:ing
Gpu (here I know what to do with all settings)
idle, 21
load, 28.. hell yeah:)
Now the cpu q:s
Haven´t been overclocking since the s478 platform and all I had to do then was cranking up the fsb and select a good ram divider (and maybe some cpu voltage)
so, is there anything special with this X79 platform? or just simple tampering with hmmm.. bclk(fsb) and ram freq. and maybe som voltage tweaking? I´m hoping to get an stable clock around 4,7-5+ (for 2h a day, it´s only a gamingsetup)
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Tips an maybe a complete setting scheme?
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Quote from: HU16E on 23-March-12, 02:30:34
It looks like it is closer to 4.4 than 4.3 with a reported 4399.89. Unless you want to lose all the power saving features, do not take CPU V. out of Auto. If bclk 106 is stable, I would say it is OC'd to a reasonable level with power saving still intact. As for graphics card tweaking, I leave all mine at reference, only so many FPS the human mind and eyes can detect, and will leave that for others to advise.
As for the RAM, again, once the CPU OC is confirmed stable, try DRAM Freq. at 1600 and see what happens. Not sure of what the DRAM V. by the manufacturer is suggested for 1600 speed, but probably will need to increase the DRAM V. up some, but not exceeding 1.65v's. SA V. probably 0.965v's, I/O V. to around 1.1v's.
Yepp it reports more n more 44, but decreased it to 43 anyway!
But 106 seems no longer stable, was stable a couple of hour bencmarking, playing etc. then I turn it off for 2-3 hours! and now it frteezez without any load at all! why is that? (went down to 100 again) so runninbg 4.3 now!
But I want more, preferrably 5Ghz, based om my temps with IBT(max test) reaching only 50 celcius! can live with 70c.. how do I get there? (mem, comes later)

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The 3820 models have major internal changes compared to the other models. This decreases the possibility of those CPUs working without a BIOS update.
The 3970X however will work if you manage to reset the BIOS settings. The clear CMOS button on the back of the board is handy in that case. After connecting the CPU and the other necessary components you'll just have to turn your power supply on, press the clear cmos button and (while keeping this button pressed) press the power button. Then wait 5-10 seconds and press the power button again to turn the system on.
If the system doesn't work after that then it's a good idea to try using only the basic components (1 memory stick, the gpu, mouse, keyboard, storage drive). If it still doesn't work then you might want to try another GPU (some newish cards were not compatible with older bios versions).
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[svn] 3820: ASDoc Bug fixes.

Revision: 3820
Author: [email protected]
Date: 2008-10-22 11:06:28 -0700 (Wed, 22 Oct 2008)
Log Message:
ASDoc Bug fixes.
Changing show versions to true by default.
Modifying projects-asdoc.xml to use the renamed tcal swcs.
Removing some unused code from ASDocExtension.java, ClassTable.java, and DocCommentTable.java
QE Notes: None
Doc Notes: None
Reviewer: Paul
Bugs: SDK-17687, SDK-17679, SDK-17357
tests: checkintests
Ticket Links:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17687
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17679
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-17357
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flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/projects-asdoc.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/templates/ASDoc_Config_Base.xml
flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/templates/asdoc-util.xslt
flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/templates/class-files.xslt
flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/templates/fieldSummary.xslt
flex/sdk/trunk/asdoc/templates/methodSummary.xslt
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My use : 90% Photoshop / LightRoom , 5% Premiere , 5% other, do NOT game at all.
Hi Guys,
My Budget for CPU is around $300-350 , what do you guys recommend? 2011 socket or 1155 that can be over clocked?
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With a $250 budget, I would recommend looking at the GTX 660. Performance wise, it will sit a little lower than the GTX 570, but it has the advantages I mentioned above. Otherwise, if you are willing to stretch the wallet a little bit, the GTX 660 Ti is a fantastic performer for $275-300 and is arguably better than the 570, plus improvements in power consumption and heat dissipation.. (Note that the cards I linked to are not recommendations for a specific card per se, I just grabbed the currently top rated card from each model at Newegg).
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hi just flashed bios to 4,7 with new me drivers then switch off Pc and press co button boot normal.
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It's preferred and recommended if you do CPU/RAM stuff in the BIOS itself, not Command Center.
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