IBCM Software updates, Do I need an Internet SUP or not?

Hi,
A quick description of our current setup (relevant bits at least):
Site server
Windows Server 2012 R2 with ConfigMgr 2012 R2 C3 primary site, with intranet client only SUP
DMZ server
Windows Server 2012 R2 with MP and DP roles installed (no SUP)
I'm able to manage internet clients, apply policies and deploy software (both apps and packages). So I know my IBCM setup works
Here's is the issue:
I'm unable to deploy software updates to internet clients.
Windowsupdate.log shows the following
 2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 EP Got WSUS Client/Server URL: "https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/ClientWebService/client.asmx"
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Setup Checking for agent SelfUpdate
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Setup Client version: Core: 7.9.9600.17489  Aux: 7.9.9600.17489
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 EP Got WSUS SelfUpdate URL: "https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate"
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ee7.
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Proxy List used: <(null)> Bypass List used : <(null)> Auth Schemes used : <None>
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send request failed, hr:0x80072ee7
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestUsingProxy failed for <https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate/wuident.cab>. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:811 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ee7.
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Proxy List used: <(null)> Bypass List used : <(null)> Auth Schemes used : <None>
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send request failed, hr:0x80072ee7
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestUsingProxy failed for <https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate/wuident.cab>. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ee7.
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Proxy List used: <(null)> Bypass List used : <(null)> Auth Schemes used : <None>
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send request failed, hr:0x80072ee7
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestUsingProxy failed for <https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate/wuident.cab>. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ee7.
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Proxy List used: <(null)> Bypass List used : <(null)> Auth Schemes used : <None>
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: Send request failed, hr:0x80072ee7
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestUsingProxy failed for <https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate/wuident.cab>. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed. error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Misc WARNING: DownloadFileInternal failed for
https://primarysiteserver.fqdn:8531/selfupdate/wuident.cab: error 0x8024402c
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Setup FATAL: DownloadCab failed, err = 0x8024402C
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Setup WARNING: SelfUpdate check failed to download package information, err = 0x8024402C
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Setup FATAL: SelfUpdate check failed, err = 0x8024402C
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent   * WARNING: Skipping scan, self-update check returned 0x8024402C
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent   * WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024402C
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent *********
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent **  END  **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdatesWuApp  Id = 2]
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent *************
2015-02-04 14:48:21:827 1332 1d98 Agent WARNING: WU client failed Searching for update with error 0x8024402c
I can see the primary site server, which happens to be the only SUP on the hierarchy is still being referenced.
It is my understanding that internet clients will default to downloading updates from windows update when "if software updates are note available on preferred distribution point or remote distribution point, download content from microsoft updates"
enabled in the deployment settings (see screenshot below).
My question is: Am I missing something? do I need to deploy a SUP on the DMZ site system? If so... will this DMZ SUP synchronize according to the settings defined on the site settings?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

You can have both, btw.  Configure your GPO with a filter so it only applies a WSUS point if the SCCMExec isn't detected.  More info can be found here:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrteam/archive/2013/03/27/group-policy-preferences-and-software-updates-in-cm2012sp1.aspx
This way any clients without a SCCM agent still honor the GPO for updates but the GPO effectively stops "fighting" with the installed agent once it gets installed.
Also, I'm pretty sure you still need an internet facing SUP.  THe checkbox you are playing with is only for downloading the patches ... not for detecting what patches are needed:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712701.aspx
"New
in System Center 2012 Configuration Manager, when you have a software update point that is configured to accept connections from the Internet, Configuration Manager Internet-based clients on the Internet always scan against this software update
point, to determine which software updates are required. However, when these clients are on the Internet, they first try to download the software updates from Microsoft Update, rather than from an Internet-based distribution point. Only if this fails, will
they then try to download the required software updates from an Internet-based distribution point. Clients that are not configured for Internet-based client management never try to download the software updates from Microsoft Update, but always use Configuration
Manager distribution points."

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