IBook 1.42 14": Leopard or Tiger?

Hi, I have just bought a 14" iBook with 60g hdd, 1g ram, and a Superdrive. It comes with Tiger but I'm considering upgrading it to Leopard. The reason for considering the upgrade is so it can talk and interact with the 3 other Leopard powered Macs in the house. By talk and interact I mean share files, screen share, printers etc.
I'm just not sure if this model of iBook really grunt to run Leopard without performance being impaired. It will not be used for processor intensive mainly email, web and some Office functions.
What is the general opinion on this?

I upgraded my Powerbook to Leopard and went back to Tiger because of performance issues and software compatibility issues. However, after upgrading a few of my friend's Macs I've realized that the installations themselves can be the trouble. I installed Leopard on my friend's iBook 133Ghz (upgrade install) and it ran terribly slow. I then did an erase and install, which was better, but still a tad buggy. So, I erased the drive and did a complete install on the blank drive and it has no issues. It runs as it should. If you do install Leopard I'd suggest erasing the drive and doing a clean install on a blank drive.
Personally, I'm staying with Tiger.

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Please, I need support.
How can I do to go back from Leopard to Tiger?
Affter installing Leopard, I have continuosly Kernel panic when shut down my iBook.
Thanks in advanced

Michelle & Randy wrote:
I need to go back to Panther restore discs that came with my imac G5. There are too many important apps that just are not compatable with Leopard ie. Creative suite 2, Freehand MX. I can not print to high res PDF. Nothing happens and I do not have time to wait for all new programs to arrive. As a matter of fact I don't even think there is a leopard freehand verision. Will my restore CD's give me the option to erase and install. Yes I have several firewire drives with my system backed up.
I believe the proper way is to use your Leopard DVD to erase the HD. I would perform a full erase (include freespace), then boot, holding down the "C" key and install Panther. However, at this point you should seriously consider Tiger. I am presuming your PowerBook is a PPC (non-Intel) OS. The commercial Tiger CDs will install on your system. I upgraded my G5 from Panther, which it came with, to Tiger when it came out. Tiger is far superior to Panther.

Power Mac G5 Dual 2.3 freezing from Archive Install of Leopard from Tiger

Just archived and installed Leopard from Tiger 10.4.10 and on all our Macs, but our only PPC system is having serious issues. The system boots up fine, faster than before, however the Finder and desktop freeze when booting into any of the two user accounts. Applications run from the dock, but the Menu Bar isn't loading fully (airport, bluetooth, clock, etc don't load). I have run Activity Monitor from the Dock and systemuiserver and finder both freeze. I have reset the PRAM and NVRAM, and in the one instance I was able to get into the files I deleted the systemuiserver and powermanagement plist's.
Upon many hours of research with Apple and at home, nothing seems to be the solution. If I can't resolve this I may have to install a copy of Tiger (or Leopard) on an external HDD, boot and attempt data recovery from the main HDD (if nothing is locked) as a lot of Quicken 2007 files are needed and perform a clean install. If any one is able to give any help I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
Also, the Power Mac G5 is Dual 2.3 late 2005 model (specs: http://support.apple.com/specs/powermac/PowerMac_G5_Late2005.html ), with 1 GB RAM, ViewSonic VGA monitor, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT with 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, Airport + Bluetooth, and wired keyboard and mouse. Thanks again!

k7 wrote:
So, would you recommend to people having this same system (as I do) to wait for installing Leopard or maybe to take some precautions?
I would either:
A) Wait until 10.5.1 has been released (which may address such issues)
B) Take serious precautions. Back everything you need onto a separate HD and perform a clean install (which formats your HD), then move everything copied back into the system to ensure no data is lost and nothing corruptible is carried over into Leopard.
Performing the clean install seemed to take care of any conflicts and issues, but means more time will be spent manually backing up and reloading all personal data.
Hope this helps and good luck.

Will my new iMac come with Leopard or Tiger?

Hi,
I'm going to Uni on Monday and want to finally purchase my Mac now that Leopard has been released.
My question is: If I order my new Mac on Monday, will it come with Leopard or Tiger?
In the online store it still states that it will come with Tiger, but maybe this has just not been updated?
If people don't know the answer, would you happen to know an Apple contact email address or telephone number I can call (in the UK) to check prior to ordering?

Are you sure you want to get a Mac with Leopard preloaded?
It may actually not be compatible with some of the software you depend on, and will have no chance of being so (unless the product is updated) because Macs historically have only been able to use the operating system they ship with and newer operating systems, and we are still learning which products need updates for Leopard.
The online store has a phone number in the upper left hand corner:
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore/
0800 039 1010
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Clean install Leopard or Tiger for Final Cut 2 on my g5?

Hi, I currently have the previous final cut on my g5, on a Tiger operating system. I just got the new Final Cut 2, and I'm going to do a clean install of the OS to have everything running as smooth as possible. Will Leopard speed things up (or slow things down) for Final Cut 2, or should I just reinstall Tiger with Final Cut 2?
Thanks

My biggest concern isn't rendering, it's overall playback performance in final cut pro.
Also, I'm curious as to how much slower motion 3 will be then motion 2 will be, and if motion 3 would run faster or the same in leopard and tiger. If I'm not mistaken I believe motion performance is quite dependent on the graphics card. I have an ATI 256 meg card that ran motion 2 acceptably in tiger, though I'm wondering how motion 3 in leopard will be in comparison (with the same video card and g5)
Thanks

Upgrade to Snow Leopard from Tiger - Front Row wont respond to remote?

Hi,
I have recently upgraded to Snow Leopard from Tiger. I thought I'd better get with it!.
I use front row a fair amount as the iMac is used for multimedia mostly.
However, the computer doesn't respond when I press the menu button on the remote, even when I get really close.
I have check the security settings but they are almost all shaded out. The remote is not paired and the setting state that any remote can be used. However, when the security pane is open the menu button works and opens front row?
It might be irrelevant but I use eye diversity with a remote. I also have B&W speakers with a remote. However, it all worked fine on Tiger.
Having to go onto the iMac to open Front Row sort of spoils the point of having a remote.
Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this issue?
Many thanks.
Andy

Hi Carolyn,
Thanks for your input. It seems obvious. Obviously one of those Mac things I hadn't picked up on yet.
Unfortunately the remote still wouldn't pair. I pressed next and menu for ages as instructed but nothing?
I have messed around a bit more and it appears that Front Row works when I quit Eye Diversity TV. The iMac appears slow to open applications with Snow Leopard compared to Tiger, especially after waking. Do you know whether this is normal?
I'll try and raise the issue with EyeTV but clearly something odd is going on. I read a comment that it was best to format the iMac before installing Snow Leopard. I'm just a bit worried about losing the data and programmes I already have on the iMac.
Many thanks.
Andy

Installing Leopard and Tiger on the same computer ...

Hi,
How could I install both system, Leopard and Tiger, on my iMac G5 giving me the possibility to startup from one of them at a time ...
I want this to have this possibility to run occasionally classic (with Tiger) while using mainly Leopard. Is this possible ? What are the drawbacks of this possibility ?
Thanks in advance.

Thanks for your feedback ...
Smokerz's comment was not clear to me. I thought he meant that having 2 «Applications» folders is «complicating» things. I am french canadian and sometimes english way of speaking is not fully understood. That is why I asked for a confirmation.
I thought that since all partitions would be available, that with 1 «Applications» folder, apps could be used in both world. If I have 2 versions of MS Word, witch one will open when double clicking on a Word document. I think that what we have to keep in mind is that apps have to be Tiger «and» Leopard compatible. Maybe I misunderstand, but that is what I see as the potential problem.
If what Smokerz meant is to have 2 independent systems, it is not what I was looking for when beginning this thread. I have been using OS 9 and OS x with the advantage of switching from one environment to the other and loved that possibility. I thought that I could have an environment where all my documents could be available when working either in Tiger or Leopard. If I desired to have OS 9 for my accounting package, I would startup my Imac with Tiger and Classic. Once finished, I would reboot with Leopard.
I know that there is an emulator called «SheepSaver» to run OS 9 on Intel machine, but have not been to confirm the speed of that solution. Maybe it is also possible to run it on PPC machines ... I will look into this possibility.
Thanks for helping.

Downgrade from Leopard to Tiger

Long story short, I'm an idiot, and wasn't thinking while doing this.
Installed Leopard, decided that it wasn't compatible with some film software I use for school, and didn't like the look and feel of it, so put in my Tiger install disks to do what I thought was a simple reinstall. Guess not.
BUT!...
I still have all my applications listed under "apps", but I'm in a new profile that Tiger install made me set up. I can't connect to the internet for some reason (with our protected network, even though I know the key). And I have a "Previous Systems" folder on my Mac HD drive, that has all my old stuff, including my old profile, with all my old files (music/movies/photos/etc).
My question, how do I get that back to being my current profile? And is Leopard still installed on my drive? I think it might still be because I lost 15GB space somewhere....
Thanks, and yes, I know I'm an idiot.

caravot wrote:
Long story short, I'm an idiot, and wasn't thinking while doing this.
Installed Leopard, decided that it wasn't compatible with some film software I use for school, and didn't like the look and feel of it, so put in my Tiger install disks to do what I thought was a simple reinstall. Guess not.
BUT!...
I still have all my applications listed under "apps", but I'm in a new profile that Tiger install made me set up. I can't connect to the internet for some reason (with our protected network, even though I know the key). And I have a "Previous Systems" folder on my Mac HD drive, that has all my old stuff, including my old profile, with all my old files (music/movies/photos/etc).
You probably did an Archive and Install and the Previous System Folder has you Leopard stuff.
It could be that if you installed Leopard over Tiger as an Archive and Install, that the Previous System folder contains your old Tiger stuff and maybe your recent Leopard stuff.
My question, how do I get that back to being my current profile? And is Leopard still installed on my drive? I think it might still be because I lost 15GB space somewhere....
You need to run the disk utility and repair the disk, if necessary and repair permissions.
That's a starter. You still may have other issues because the Tiger accounts are probably different from those of the Leopard system.

Anybody experience with Mac Leopard or Tiger on Equium A210-17I

Has anybody experience with Mac Leopard or Tiger on an AMD Toshiba? I read about some folks installing it on AMD and Intel and wondered how it could feel and work on an Equium. I have A210 17l.
Thanks for your input.

It seems to be that you are alone with this idea. If you will try it in the future please post a little bit about it.
Good luck!

Address Book Issues moving from Leopard to Tiger

I've carried out a clean install of a powerbook G4, moving down from leopard to tiger because the computer was struggling to cope with leopard with the lack of memory. I'm having problems importing the address book contacts. I've played around with the applications support files, cache files and preferences with no joy. Any ideas?

Thanks for the tip, but I don't have a AddressBook-v22.abcddb file in my application support/address book folder. What I currently have is as follows.
ABPerson.skindexinverted
AddressBook.data
AddressBook.data.previous
And a folder I created called "Metadata" which has all of the contacts in .abcp format.
The top three files are recreated automatically it seems as I've deleted them a few times and after I open address book the files return.
All thoughts welcome.

ICal Leopard to Tiger

My primary application, Pro Tools, is not yet compatible with Leopard on my G5 Dual 2.5GHz Mac.
I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Leopard. The MacBook Pro is where I keep my master iCal and AddressBook. Now, when I backup the databases of either iCal or AddressBook in Leopard, the Tiger machine cannot read the files. I understand that there were changes to the applications, however it is truly PATHETIC Apple didn't realize that some of us would need to remain backwards compatible with iCal and AddressBook. How about - "save as iCal v2". What a BUMMER!
Am I missing something.....
Carl

Thanks. That does work, but you have to delete old calendars, create new ones and import.
Otherwise you wind up with tons of duplicated events. Not very elegant. But, at least it's a workaround.
Thanks again.

Import OSX mailbox from leopard to tiger

i am trying to import a mailbox from Mail in 10.5.8 to Mail in 10.4.11 but either i am choosing the wrong folder to import or the files are not backwards compatible?
I have tried choosing user library/Mail/POP(email address) which contains an INBOX.mbox and the associated deleted/junk/etc folders but i just get a "no valid Mail for OSX files found" message
i get the same message trying to import an archived INBOX.mbox folder
is there a way to do this, aside from upgrading to Leopard
the Tiger machine is a G5 iMac running Mail v2.1.3 and the Leopard is an Intel imac running Mail v3.6

thanks for your reply
i just tried that and got a handful of messages from an old import folder on the other mac
SO
i went back and tried the POP .mbox again and it worked this time, so i'm very happy
thank you

Downgraded 2 Macs from Leopard to Tiger. Kernel panics on both now.

I'm prepping a couple of G4's to sell on Craigslist. I downgraded a 1.67 GHz PowerBook G4 from Leopard to Tiger using the original disks that shipped with the laptop. The other Mac was a dual 1.46 GHz (FW800) PowerMac G4 tower - again, from Leopard to Tiger, but using a retail copy of Tiger. Both machines were running perfectly prior to the downgrades, albeit a little slow - which is why I chose to downgrade them both to Tiger. The installations went smoothly, but now they BOTH have kernel panics within a few minutes of logging on.
I've reformatted both discs using the secure 7-pass option, have swapped out the memory, and have run Disk Utility, Disk Warrior 4, and Tech Tool Pro 5 without so much as a hiccup in an attempt to find a problem with the hardware - although actually finding hardware errors on both machines would have been extremely coincidental, if not downright creepy.
I haven't run the Apple Hardware Test in loop mode yet, but I must admit that I don't believe the problem is with the hardware - particularly since both machines were is use right up until the downgrade. I'll be taking a look at the panic logs on both machines next, but thought I'd post this just in case anybody else has had the problem (and hopefully found a solution).
Anybody...anybody?

HotHead:
I haven't run the Apple Hardware Test in loop mode yet, but I must admit that I don't believe the problem is with the hardware - particularly since both machines were is use right up until the downgrade
Doesn't seem to be likely. On the other hand, you have reformatted and secure erased the drives, and have run powerful diagnostic tools on the directories with nothing showing up, so a software based issue seems just as unlikely.
I'll be taking a look at the panic logs on both machines next
That will be helpful.
cornelius

Migration from Leopard to Tiger

I wish to migrate all data, settings and application from my imac running Leopard to my powerbook running Tiger. The migration assistant doesn't seem to work: setting my imac to a firewire drive using 'T' at startup and running the assistant on my powerbook, although I can see the firewire drive in Finder on the power book, migration assistant cant see it. Is there something i'm doing wrong

I'm running Office '04 and have these in my own library preferences folder:
com.microsoft.Word.plist
com.microsoft.setupassistant.plist
com.microsoft.OfficeNotifications.plist
com.microsoft.Excel.plist
com.microsoft.autoupdate.plist
Then there's a folder Microsoft User Data in my Documents folder.
That's the problem. MS tends to scatter files all over the place. I suggest you use EasyFind and/or Spotlight to search for Microsoft on your computer.
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Downgrade from Leopard to Tiger after Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update?

Can I downgrade from Leopard to Tiger after having applied the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update 1.0? This firmware update requires OS 10.5.2 or higher to be installed. Now that it is installed can I downgrade back to Tiger (10.4.11)?
I have a MacBook Pro 17 (late 2006). It ran perfect except for the occasional ignored first key press problem that these MacBook's have. In late December I upgraded to Leopard (10.5.6) and installed the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update 1.0 that is suppose to fix the ignored first key press problem. Ever since then I have had constant keyboard & trackpad failures. When the built-in keyboard fails, thankfully I can still use an external USB or Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. I've tried everything. I've reinstalled Leopard four separate times, reset PRAM, reset SMU, repair permissions, pressure on the keyboard cable under the battery (even though I don't think this version of the MacBook has that problem). Nothing restored my internal keyboard and trackpad. During this process I tried to re-install the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update using the original package file that I had downloaded, however I was given a message that the keyboard didn't need to be update because it already has the updated functionality and the installer package would then quit. Then I remembered that the original firmware update actually installed a Keyboard Firmware Update application in my Utilities Folder. When I ran the Firmware Update application in the Utilities Folder it instantly fixed my keyboard problem! Unfortunately the keyboard fix is not stable. It fails 2 to 3 time a week. Running the Keyboard Firmware Update application fixes the problem every single time, but this renders my MacBook useless as a portable (I have to have an external keyboard/mouse to run the Firmware application). I have, incidentally, tried all the other suggestions in the many keyboard threads in this forum (putting the computer to sleep, restarts, shut downs, PRAM & SMU resets, repairing permissions, running other applications, etc.), and nothing works except reinstalling the Keyboard Firmware Update using the application in the Utilities Folder. At this point I just want to downgrade to Tiger and go back to the way it was. I'll happily take the ignored first key press problem over a completely dead keyboard.
Please help.

Hi,
I was just wondering how you were able to get the macbook to accept the update? I had to take mine to apple store and get entire keyboard and trackpad replaced in my macbook. They then told me to ignore the update cause they did not have any other keyboards to replace if it happened again.

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