IBook Hard drive question

Hi all,
i removed the hard drive from a mac book pro 2.33ghz 15inch late 2006 120gb drive .. is it possible to fit it into my ibookg4 1.33ghz powerpc which has a 60gb drive
thanks
Rohan

RohanJM wrote:
Hi all,
i removed the hard drive from a mac book pro 2.33ghz 15inch late 2006 120gb drive .. is it possible to fit it into my ibookg4 1.33ghz powerpc which has a 60gb drive
You probably need an explanation. The MacBook Pro would use an SATA interface. The iBook line used the IDE (now known as parallel ATA) interface. They are not interchangeable.

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I have replaced my ibook hard drive but when I start up I get a folder with a flashing question mark. I have tried installing the OSX disk using the "C" key but can't get any further than the flashing "?." What do I do? What is the problem?

Which iBook do you have?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1772?viewlocale=en_US
Which version of the OS is installed, and which version are you trying to install?
You could try starting up with Startup Manager and see if it will allow you to select the OS X install disc as the startup disk. If so, maybe you can proceed from there. I would recommend repairing the hard drive first since you are evidently having a bit of a problem with it.

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You guys have never failed me yet so here's another:
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Shoot, on the previous, I forgot to click the "Yes, my questions has been answered" button.
Anyway, Dale thanks for your comments and suggestions on this matter for me. Your advice worked! FYI - here's what I previously posted:
chaemo
Great, I think I'm good now!
Thanks for your help with this, sorry it took so long to respond, I had to purchase a Fire Wire and try a few things before I could figure it out.
As you suspected, I did indeed need to get a Fire Wire to do the cloning (Ethernet is not the proper cable to do it with it turns out). So while I'm at my local Mac store I asked the tech guy about it and he told me the cloning was easy to do simply by using the Mac Disk Utility app and that I didn't need to bother with any outside software to do it. So I tried that but couldn't ever get it to work because it kept indicating that the disk was "too large," and again, I could get no further. So I went back to CCC, got further along this time, but again, ran into the size problem (I'm thinking here, that if my technical computing skills were a bit further refined, either one of these apps should probably work) . Finally, I tried the Superduper software, as you and Dale suggested, and that did the trick!
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yes, making a horrid lawn-mower or hellicopter sound at times,
then crashing. so i need to replace the hard drive,
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I feel extremely stupid for this post; however, I need to replace my hard drive. The system info states the drive as ATA. Does this imply SATA, PATA, will EIDE work ? Can anyone suggest a drive as well as as decent external drive enclosure to swap the data.
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58042
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2. There are no Mac stores of any description near where I now live, making it difficult to replace the hard drive. Is it possible to use an external hard drive instead?

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1) If it is a Blue screen sometimes with a spinning disc cursor or any messages to restart etc, you will first want to make sure to disconnect all external devices (USB Mouse/Keyboard, iPod, or anything else connected). Restart
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a. If it still happens then try replacing the bottom module with good
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3) Try resetting your PRAM. Hold down -option-P-R during startup till you hear the startup chime twice. This will erase all RAM disks if you have any. More info on PRAM
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