IBook Sleep/airport problems

I'm having some problems with the sleep function on my iBook since updating to Tiger. I am currently running 10.4.2, and neither of the updates has fixed it.
Here is what's happening:
When running on battery, it will go to sleep normally, both by closing the lid and by by using the apple menu. It wakes from sleep fine and connects to my airport normally.
The problem comes when running off the power adapter.
The machine will not go to sleep, either by closing the lid or using the apple menu. The screen will go black, the pulsing light next to the lid latch will come on for a second, then i hear the drive starting back up, and the light stops pulsing and the screen comes back on.
The main problem is that when this happens, my airport will not come back on. when i try to mouse over the menu bar icon, i get an endless spinning beachball. Try to go to network preferences, same thing.
Everything else works and runs fine. The only way to fix the airport problem is with a restart (sometimes taking a "hard" restart of holding down the power button).
I've only had this problem since upgrading to tiger, and have tried changing the pwer management settings around, but i still get the same thing.
any help?
thanks
r.

well, after doing a huge search for it, for the past few months, i've been unable to come up with a solution. it's rather frustrating, as i use my iBook as my main machine, complete with iCurve stand and Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for easier portability. I'd like to put the thing to sleep when i'm not around, and have everything work when i open it back up.
I finally, today, did something that seems to have fixed it. After trying multiple things such as moving the systemconfig folder and repairing permissions, nadda.
Then i tried to figure out what might be keeping the machine active when i tried to put it to sleep. i checked all of the running processes, and the only thing that i could come up with was my BT keyboard and mouse.
I went into the bluetooth preference pane and unchecked the "allow devices to wake machine".
this seems to have solved my problem, as i've closed the lid, put the iBook to sleep, and woke it up all without airport or other problems since.
i'm a very happy camper.
I don't know why this just started happening since updating to tiger, and i don't know why it wasn't a problem when running off the battery, but it's fixed now.
I don't know if you use BT stuff on your G5, but it's worth a shot.
r.

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