IBook won't find HD

I have an ibook G3 which I left on while on a trip. Upon my return it was frozen on the screen saver, I restarted and it came up with a question mark. I've since reset the PRAM, restarted with the option key, shift key, the x key... none of it worked. I then restarted with the OSX cd and the c key, went to disk utility but it can't locate the HD to repair- it comes up greyed out. On a clean reinstall it also cannot locate the HD- it goes up to the 4th screen and cant select the HD. I also restarted with the OS9 and the C key, it goes up to the third extension and then freezes... Restarted with the original applications disk and the progress bar goes to half and then it freezes...
I then got disk warrior and it just doesnt work at all...
I tried connecting it to another machine with the firewire to see if I could salvage some info, but it doesnt work...
I've got critical information on the drive, please advise!:)

same thing just happened to me and i almost had to get the logic board replaced, just make sure all the connectors are plugged in to the hard drive.
but the service centre just reset pram and ran some repairs from an external drive i think it was diskwarrior

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