Icc colour profiles by print labs

how can i set the colour printing profiles thas required by my on line print lab .thats needed for colour management used incolour profiles is ther ac to upgrade elements 12.this is required to go the correct colour when images are set onto a cd for printing to get the correct colour.

willspring,
Just to make sure: As I understand it, things worked in CS4, not only in earlier versions.
To reset settings in Illy, you may Move the folder, but it may not solve the issue (the simpler but less thorough resetting being to Ctrl+Alt+Shift/Cmd+Option+Shift during startup).
Have you made any changes, such as printer driver or whatever, between success and failure?

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How do you add a icc colour profile to a mac

I need to add the icc colour profile of the printers that print my photographs onto my computer so when i do the little post production I know what im getting from them. Any ideas how this can be done.

There are two library folders where you could install them:
To install for all users install in
Macintosh HD > Library >ColorSync>Profiles
To install only for yourself install in
Your Home Folder > Library >ColorSync>Profiles
Regards
Léonie

ICC Colour profiles help!?

Hi all,
I just started a new job and on Friday I sent my first work off to the printers.
It came up with error messages saying about colour error with ICC profiles being incorrect.
(I use a pre set export setting)
When I contacted the printers he said it wasn't a problem this time, but to take those profiles out my end next week/sort them out.
I have done a little reserach and looked on this forum to see if I can answer my question but i am left confused and I was hoping someone on here could help.
So my questions are:
What exactly is a ICC profile
How do i change or get rid of this so i do not have a error printing next time
Thank you in advance if you are able to help (i'm using CS6 atm)
Toria

Thank you for the reply,
This was the message i recieved!
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Toria

Colour profile for Epson printer

When printing from Elements 9, which ICC colour profile should I use with my Epson PX720WD printer?

Yes that should work as long as you keep all the settings consistent throughout the entire workflow. Also make sure you haven’t set “No Color Management” from the Editor menu:
Edit >> Color Settings

Where do you put colour profiles ???

Hi I hope you can help me we have our own icc colour profile that i want to synchronise in adobe bridge to use on the whole suite. Can you tell me where i have to put the profile for it to appear in the list when i go to creative suite color settings in bridge. Hope someone can help me please this is driving me mad !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many Thanks
JJK_Echo

You are right, that is not possible. Use Finder to manual copy the icc
profile to a place as described in a copy of a text from an Adobe Press
article that I pasted in this mail, choose which one you need.
Then in PS again go to color setting, under working spaces find the newly
added color profile in either RGB section or CMYK section and select it.
Also check the other settings you want to have active. Then save this color
setting with a clear and understandable name and hit OK. Then go to Bridge
color settings and now your newly saved profile is in the list and you can
choose it. Now you are done. You can also easily get it undone again by
checking an other one of the list.
Here is the copy of the text from Adobe Press:
Storing and Finding Color Profiles in Mac OS X
Mac OS X offers a bewildering variety of places to store profiles. You'll
find them in the System\Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder, in the
Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder, in the
Library\ColorSync\Profiles\Displays folder, in the Library\Application
Support\Adobe\Color\Profiles folder, in the Library\Application
Support\Adobe\Color\Profiles\Recommended folder, in the
Users\(username)\Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder, and in some cases,
buried several levels deep in subfolders in the Library\Printers folder.
Here's the deal: There are really only three places where you probably want
to store profiles. If you want to make a profile available to all user
accounts on a Mac, save it in the Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder. Don't
try to put it in the System\Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder, because
you're not supposed to manually edit the OS X System folderthat's why the
other Profiles folders exist.
If you want to make a profile available only to your user account, save it
in the Users\(username)\Library\ColorSync\Profiles folder. (If you're the
only user, you may as well save all your profiles there.)
If you want to make a profile available from the Color Settings dialog in
Photoshop when the Advanced check box is unchecked, save it in the
Library\Application Support\Adobe\Color\Profiles folder.
Hi when i go to color settings in Ps and try to load the icc profile from its
location it is greyed out and will not let me select it

Can you use a photo lab's colour profile in Elements?

Using PSE 6, I want to use a printer profile from a digital photo processing lab, so as to get accurately printed images. (Additonally my monitor is calibrated by a Heuy Pro)
The profile is 'FUJI 570 Supreme Lustre' which I have downloaded from the lab and installed on my Windows Vista PC. Following PSE Help instructions, if I go to the print option then from the drop down Printer Profile list, I can see, choose and select the Fuji 570 profile.
The problem is that this process only seems aimed at then allowing me to click on cancel or print (there is no save option etc). PSE seems to assume that I am connected to the Fuji printer and want to print the image myself, which, of course, I don't but rather want to save this image with the correct profile for the lab's printer and paper-type, so as to send the file(s) for my colour managed image(s) to be printed.
Is there any way that you can save a PSE image file with a colour profile like this in it?
If yes, how is this done?
The lab provides instructions as to how to do this with Photoshop but they are unfamiliar with PSE. In the lab's instructions it refers to View/Proof Set up/custom and unchecking Preserve Colour Numbers, Paper White and Ink Black. Is any of this possible/necessary with PSE 6 (or any later version?)
I have tried to resolve this myself but come to a dead end. If anyone can advise me how to achieve what I want to do, that would be really great or if it can't be done using PSE, to know that would be a great help.
(I have used this lab before without the profiles and whilst the results were good in several respects, some colours, not surprisingly, were not very accuate with my calibrated monitor)
Thanks for reading and considering my posting on the forum.

Thanks for this further advice- much appreciated.
I don't think the Edit>>Colour Settings is going to work as this means that the monitor set up becomes the profile. In my case the Huey profile (which is confirmed as it shows in the print set up preference/settings boxes). Although the Huey profile is important for accurate editing, it will not fulfil the lab'sFuji printer/papers settings.
It looks like PSE does not have any way to save to file with the printer profile (unlike Photoshop). This is a real shame.
It's an interesting issue, as I can't believe that I am the only user ever wanting to use a lab's profile to get better colour management and to use a photographic lab rather than an attached printer.
Anyway, thanks again for engaging in this issue and for your thoughts and advice - much appreciated.
Should I find a way to resolve this, I will post it on the forum.

PNG colour profiles - and this format for print

I know it's taboo to talk about PNG for printing.
But I can't find and I've searched the forums - there was a post made about embedding colour profiles a while ago.
I know PNG is a RGB only format, but I'm 36.8% sure I read something about embedding either RGB or ... wait for it CMYK profiles into PNG files.
If anyone can shed any light on this - and how about PNG for print - I've been against it for a long time - but it is a lossless format, it can carry 64 bit data.
I know I know - but I thought I'd ask anyway - see what people think.

You can't save a PNG with a profile out of Photoshop, but it looks like you can embed one via the image events scripts that ship with OSX (/Library/Scripts/ColorSync/embed). Unfortunately ID ignores the embedded profile and uses the document's assigned profile instead. PNGs do respond to ID's RGB profile and the RGB profile will have an effect on the CMYK separation when it happens.
Here's ProPhoto and sRGB:
From your ID document you can also assign a profile, which conflicts with the doc's profile, by selecting the png and choosing Image Color Settings.... So, you could assign AdobeRGB as your doc's profile and assign sRGB to all your pngs.

I have been having a issue with getting the colors on my monitor to match the colors fro my print lab. I now have the monitor calibrated to match the prints but when I open elements it doesn't use the same colors. If i have it use the calibrated profile b

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How to select the printer and select the ICC profile for printing with VBScript?

I try to automate my printing procedure in photoshop. The problem is that I don't know how to select the printer and select the icc profile for printing with vbscript like I manually do in the print-menu in photoshop?
Anyone has done this before?
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Client/Server version:
- D2KWUTIL.PLL library provides a 'Select Printer' dialog box to be used in Forms: WIN_API_DIALOG.SELECT_PRINTER
http://guenter-huerkamp.dyndns.org/oracle-doc/docs/html/d2kwutil.html
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Converting colour profile of final print package before printing

How do I convert the colour profile of a Lightroom custom printing package from Adobe Prophoto to sRGB before printing? For that matter, how do I save the thing? I have no interest in saving the template, or the collection separately, since neither has any use without the other. And without saving them as one finished item, I have no way to convert the colour profile of that item. I can see clearly from the appearance of the print preview that the above mentioned colour profile conversion is required.

You cannot change the profile in Lr to <sRGB>.
If you want to print sRGB, select <Managed by Printer> for Color Profile under Color Management.
Then in your printer's dialog select <sRGB> instead of <Application managed> (or similar wording - depending on your printer).
BTW: the term is not "Adobe proPhoto" it's "proPhoto RGB".

Photoshop colour profiles and Aperture

The local lab only has Photoshop colour profiles, nothing for Aperture. Any way to utilize these in Aperture?
They recommend their PS RGB profile. If I can't utilize it, I can get an image that is closer to my screen display, if I onscreen proofed using Aperture's generic RGB or sRGB modes. My last print job did not utilize any onscreen proofing beforehand and it shows -- way too blue in the print. Onscreen proofing using either of these RGB modes gets me closer in colour balance to the last print job, but contrast and brightness is still an issue (print is darker and flatter).
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A colour profile is a colour profile. Photoshop is just an app that uses them - there's no such thing as a PS-specific colour profile.
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Colour Profiles - Mac and Cannon MP980

I am really struggling to get colour management to work managed through PSE. First how to turn off colour management on my MP980 - I have researched several forums on this and haven't found a real answer. My driver doesn't seem to offer the "none" option. Then I can't get PSE to show my ICC profiles for my printer. They are there and funcitonal via ColorSync. Can anyone help? Follow on question - Can I use ColorSync to accomplish the same thing as managing colours through PSE? Any help greatly appreciated.

This ia a complex issue.
PSE can manage color profiles through the file or printer. It cannot manage the impossible.
SRGB is the universal color space.
If you can’t accept it then you need to manage your color profiles for printer and paper type.

Epson R1900 and iCC/iCM profiling...when do you give up?

I'm using Windows 7 64bit (non-SP1) and Lightroom 3.3 with a Epson R1900 printer.
Sorry if this is winded, but I've tried a lot myself and had to break down and post here.
I've read a lot of posts already about disabling color management in the printer or in LR 3.3. I've downloaded all possible profiles from Epson or other places that sound logical enough to help with my specific paper. I understand that my screen could be too bright or too dark and lightroom's interface itself could even give the impression of a photo being too bright or dark. I've read about iCC profiling twice, first in software then in the printer. I've used a Spyder3 Print SR and Spyder 3 screen calibrator.
No matter what combintation I try, my photos print too dark of course, but even worse, the color is really off (more than the brightness). Also, I understand there is a lot of printers so it can be hard giving exact toggles in options that might not even exist with ones printer.
Now I'm not nearly as educated as most of you on these issues, so I'm going to ask some questions (sorry if they seem "newbish").
First, I understand (or currently am under the impression) that Lightroom uses something called "MelissaRBG or a.k.a "BastardRGB" to print to the screen (?). If this is true, shouldn't the exporting iCC profile be MelissaRGB.icc? Now if this is true, shouldn't the Host (Win7) look different being set at sRGB than that to what is in Lightroom? It doesn't on my system. So again if this Melissa profile is true, does Lightroom only export in MelissaRGB between the print to screen and whatever given .icc profile you have chosen to export in? In other words, is there only a handshake happening with Melissa.
Second, where does the host .icc start and end. I assume since Lightroom does not come packaged with drivers for every possible graphics card, that the host's color manager has to pass off a matrix for colors to the Lightroom software.
Third, being that the above 2 questions might be out of a users simplistic control and that I can't see what I'm doing wrong, should one just use the basic controls of the printer module? In my case the best prints I get are when I use the printers modules color manager of "Epson Vivid" with a +10 in brightness and +4 in saturation. Of course, this isn't going to help when I want to print to canvas or may other paper types. However, all the profiling in the world with my Spyder3 Print SR might be correct, but I'll never know because the prints always come out way off.
All the trying and failure make me feel like the guy who is barely qualified to make small rocks from a boulder, just give me a hammer. Should I just give up and let it rip with sliders and keep my eyes closed?
By the way, there is really very little found easily through search engines that explain how the profiling should be SET UP on a computer in specific pratice . But yes, there is A LOT that want to walk you through the math and theory of it all, just not how any particular software handles it, not even the operating system.

Just checking off a few things. You may have done all this and some has been said before, I'm just trying for the complete list:
I think you're saying you've calibrated your monitor with Spyder 3. As a check, when you check the profile in W7 control panel, it will show the profile you've created with Spyder 3 as the default for the monitor (if not, something's wrong)
I'm not familiar with Spyder 3 software, but does it give you the option of setting screen brightness? It should be 100-120 cd/m2. No more. If you can't set it in the Spyder s/w, try turning the brightness down and recalibrating with Spyder. You can also use the "Colorimetre HCFR" software (http://www.homecinema-fr.com/colorimetre/index_en.php) to measure profile parameters, including brightness.
Another check on brightness: get a piece of blank printer paper, and with normal room lighting hold it near your monitor when displaying something white. Does the screen look significantly brighter than the paper? If so, it may be too bright. Modern monitors are way too bright by default. My HP monitor brightness is set to 15 out of 100 to get 100 cd/m2.
When printing from LR, select in the "Print Job" area (bottom right in print module) "profile: SPR1900 Premium Glossy", or whatever the profile name is for the paper you're using (I'm guessing the name, I have an R1800). This is telling LR to colour-mange the printer, and telling it which profile to use.
Click Page Setup... (bottom L) and set the paper type in the Epson dialogue. Click Advanced (I think it's a separate tab in R1900, it's a button in Main tab on R1800) and in "Colour management" check ICM and (very important) check "Off (No Color Adjustment)". I'm not sure with the R1900, but on the Main tab, you may also have to "Mode: custom" and "No Color Adjustment" in the drop down. This is telling the printer driver that:
colour management is being used (so don't mess with the colours to make them "pretty", which it would otherwise do)
colour management is being done by the application, not the driver (in other words, telling the driver not to do anything itself)
The important thing is that colour management of the printer should be done in one place only. The method above gets it done in LR, you can also turn it off in LR and use the driver, but I recommend the steps above.
If all that's OK, it ought to work. Printed output is never going to be identical to the screen - they're different physical representations of the image - but colour should be fairly close.
You mentioned LR using a form of ProPhoto colour space as its working space. That's not an issue. It's just a convenience for LR, and has absolutely no bearing on the output. The only point is that the working space should be at least as large as the original image colour space, the monitor colour space and the printer colour space (so it's not limiting the colour). LR automatically converts the image to:
the monitor colour space when displaying images (provided you have an appropriate profile set for the monitor, which should be done by spyder 3)
the printer colour space, which you specify when you print, remembering to set the driver as above.

Colour Profile Bug in CS4 32 bpc Mode?

This has been confirmed on both Mac and PC by different users
(this topic was confirmed on another list before posting here).
One may be working on an image that has a different colour profile
than set as default in colour settings. For example, colour settings
has Adobe RGB while the current document is in ProPhoto RGB. If the
ProPhoto RGB (16 bpc) file is taken to 32 bpc mode, the status message
reports that the file is in a modified linear space based on the input
profile. One may then perform USM, for example and then return to 16
bpc or 8 bpc mode.
Here is the bug: Once the ProPhoto RGB file is returned to 16 or 8
bpc, it now has the working RGB space tagged of Adobe RGB, rather than
the original ProPhoto RGB as input before 32 bpc conversion. This is
not just a tagging issue, the numbers have been converted to working
RGB rather than the input ICC that was tagged to the image prior to
entering 32 bpc mode.
ICC tagged image operations have been divorced from colour settings
since version 6, the document can reside in a space that is
independent of colour settings. I can't recall other operations that
change the files colour space and tag without user intention.
If using 32 bpc edits, to preserve the input space, one either has to
change their colour settings to match the document or convert the
document to working RGB.
So why this reversion to working RGB and not the document RGB - bug or
design feature/limitation? Did CS3 work this way, is it only my
version of CS4?
I have searched the help notes, this forum and other Adobe support docs,
however I could not find this issue documented.
Sincerely,
Stephen Marsh

Can anyone post a supporting argument for the current behaviour (design or bug). While in 32 bpc Photoshop "knows" what the original profile is (it is listed as being in a linear state), while on default conversion to lower bit depth the data is converted to working RGB, rather than the document RGB prior to conversion (if different to working RGB). Am I missing something - is this a good thing, should this be behaviour be changed?
OK, topic drift it is!
Buko/progress, it is not so much bit depth in this case, it is gamma encoding - or lack thereof. 32 bpc mode processes in linear gamma, which can have an effect on some operations for certain receptive image content (tonal moves, USM, interpolation etc).
As one example, some links to linear resampling can be found in the comments at this blog:
http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2008/11/resize-smaller-part-2.html
I prefer the 32 bpc route to linear processing rather than the alternative, which is 16 bpc and a hacked custom RGB profile set to gamma 1.0.
I don't like linear USM for output sharpening (nasty dark halo artifacts). However, for subtle capture/acquisition sharpening linear USM may be preferred for certain images. I generally sharpen with blend if sliders limiting the intensity of the light halo, which comes close to one aspect of linear sharpening (light halo reduction). This can also be achieved by blending the USM in two separate layers, set to darken and lighten blending with reduced opacity.
While on USM and gamma, there are some L* based RGB working spaces such as L*RGB or the new ECI RGB which behave the same way as Lab mode Lightness channel sharpening (when set to Luminosity blend). As the response of the Lightness channel is different to linear gamma and standard gamma encoded spaces, for some image content one may be preferred over the other as the processing space.
I would still like to explore the original topic/post before submitting a bug report. How do you think things should work?
Regards,
Stephen Marsh

How to improve or get the right colours for my printer

Hey guys, I have just used an EyeOne to configurate the right colours of my screen. Just that when I use Photoshop or I watch at the pictures, I want to see them as they really are. I've done it, but now I have the second problem. It works for sending pictures, for sending them to print... But my printer(an Epson) prints them too dark and too redish.... But my screen is just perfect.
Do you know how can I manage to configurate the way to change the colours of my printer with some app or some configurator??
Thank you very much for your answers.

Your EyeOne has calibrated the display, but you will also need print profiles.
First, without a printer profile, you will get the most accurate print by using the printer manufacturers, in you case Epson, inks and papers.
You can use alternative, but quality inks, and alternative quality papers. Wether using these or Epsons, you will need a print profile.
The print profile will usually make a much larger difference than just calibrating your display.You will need a different profile for each paper and ink combination you use. Some paper manufacturers supply downloadable profiles, but these will only be accurate if all of the Epson printers of your model have identical characteristics, this is rare, hence the need for custom profiles. Some paper manufacturers will supply you with a custom profile free, or you simply download the target image, print following their instructions precisley and post the printed target to them for a custom profile. They then email the profile back to you. There are also commercial companies that do this to. Another option is to purchase a calibrator that profiles your display and printer, but that tends to be expensive. Look here at various options here from just one of many suppliers http://spyder.datacolor.com/products.php.
Look here for options available from a typical paper supplier in the UK. http://www.permajet.com/30/ICC_Profiles.html. Then read these sections relating to the previous link.
What are ICC Profiles and why do I need them? CLICK HERE
What is the difference between a GENERIC and a CUSTOM ICC Profile? CLICK HERE
That should give you and idea of what needs undertaking for print colour accuracy.

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