Icc profile locations inconsistent and confusing

I apologize in advance for this long winded post, but I really would like some help, if anyone is willing to indulge me. Ive done some searching on the forum, and got some info, but I feel Im still missing something.
My issue is with printer/paper profiles, and which to use to optimize print/monitor matching. A bit of background. I have not bothered until this morning to set up my Epson 2200 printer on my Mac Pro computer. Today, I finally did so. Im running an 8 core Mac Pro, 4 GB memory, and Lightroom Rev 1.1. I downloaded the latest Intel Mac printer driver from the Epson site, and installed the driver. In addition, I downloaded the paper profile for Epson Premium Luster paper for the Mac from the Epson site (I was surprised to note that the download was not just .icc profiles, but instead, a program that installed the profiles (though the program did not say where the profiles were going, or what the profiles were called).
Next, I followed the directions for printing in Lightroom that Scott Kelby included in Chapter 8, pages 272-277 and 290-295 of his The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book. I was able to find 3 profiles for Premium Luster Paper when I followed step 4 on page 291 of the book, when I used the other option for Profile under the Color Management pane. The profiles were called, exactly, SP2200 Prem.Luster 1440.icc, SP2200 Prem.Luster 2880.icc, and SP2200 Premium Luster PK, and I was able to select all 3 of them by clicking the checkboxes in front of the profiles and now they show up as selections for printing. Thus far, I have experimented with the 1440 and PK profiles, and printed images using both perceptual and relative rendering intents, and Ive found, to my poor eyes at least, using the PK profile, with perceptual rendering intent, yields the best printer/monitor match (yes, my Eizo ColorEdge CE240W monitor has been recently calibrated using Monaco Optix, in case you were wondering), not great, but marginally acceptable. So far, so good. Now, here are my issues:
I am trying to understand where the 3 profiles came from, since Im now paranoid about losing them, since I think Im headed in the right direction, at least. When I do a Spotlight search on my Mac, I have been able to find the SP2200 Prem.Luster 1440.icc and SP2200 Prem.Luster 2880.icc profiles under the Macintosh HD 1/Library/Colorsync/Profiles directory. However, the PK profile is not found by Spotlight. Instead, I seem to have located the PK profile by using the Colorsync utility, doing a repair profile, and then looking at profiles. The PK profile appears to reside under the directory Macintosh HD 1/Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter/ICCProfiles/, however, it doesnt exist as a separate .icc profile, instead, it appears to reside inside a file called SP2200.profiles, which does not seem to be openable.
So here are the questions:
1. Which of these profiles were put into place when I installed the printer driver, and which were created when I downloaded and ran the paper profile for Epson Premium Luster paper program?
2. Is there a way for me to extract the SP2200 Premium Luster PK from that SP2200.profiles file and put it in the same location as the other 2 .icc files, or should I not care? Im particularly afraid of losing this profile, since its the one that is working best for me at the moment.
Thanks for any thoughts on this.

Ans to Q1 - Macintosh HD 1/Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter/ICCProfiles/ contains installed with driver and Macintosh HD 1/Library/Colorsync/Profiles were installed by the download.
Ans to Q2 - Epson put them inside the "package" to keep them safe. You can access the package contents via the Ctrl+click or right+click context menu item labelled "Show package contents" (see attached screenshot), but I would
strongly urge you not to remove them from the package. You really don't need to care where they are because they're in the safest place. It's when folk try to get smart that the system bites them.

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