ICC profile problems

I have upgrades from Elements 10 to 11 and also updated my printer to an Epson R3000 I am trying to change the ICC profile but it just defaults to sRGBIEC61966-2.1 and wont take a new profile. After selecting a new profile closing colour management and going back in it has defaulted to the original setting. Even when having printed a photo. Can anyone help with this issue or experienced the same problem.

  Make sure your color settings are correct or that you don’t have “No Color Management” selected. Go to Edit >> Color Settings
Choose “Always Optimize for Printing” and click OK
Then open an image and click File >> Print
Then click the More Options button and choose Color Management
Ensure the top dropdown is set to “Photoshop Elements Manages Color”
You can select your media type from the Printer Profile dropdown.
I find Rendering Intent is best set to Perceptual.
N.B. When Elements manages color in conjunction with your chosen profile it’s essential to turn off color management in the print driver.

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