ICC profiles needed

Hi, I give up. I want to follow this procedure as found on the HP website:
HP Printers - Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop. However, after two days of searching I have been unable to locate the HP ICC profiles for my printer, paper and ink type, all HP products. They are not currently listed in the drop down profiles of step 3 in the above article. Some older deskjet models are all that are there. I am looking for the ICC profiles for:
Printer: HP Photosmart C6380
Paper: HP Premium Plus Photo Paper Soft Glossy Q5450A
Ink: HP Vivera Inks.
Does anyone have a link to where they are located? Thank you!!
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Creating Custom ICC Profiles for Color Photos
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (Photoshop 6 and prior: select File , then Print .)
   2.
      Select the Show More Options check box, and Color Management from the drop-down menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select Same as Source .
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use custom profiles. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     The paper type must be selected in the printer software even when creating a profile. Maximum ink volume limits are determined by the paper-type selection, not through the ICC profile.
With these settings, a print without any color management intervention from either the printer driver or the application will be produced. This print is suitable for measurement and profile creation
                    OR
Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (For Photoshop 6 and prior select File , and then Print ).
   2.
      For Photoshop 7 and CS, in the Print with Preview dialog, select the Show More Options checkbox, and Color Management from the menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select the profile that corresponds to the printer, paper type, and ink set.
   4.
      Set the ICC rendering intent in the Intent menu. Most users will want to use the Perceptual intent to give the most subjectively pleasing color reproduction.
   5.
      Checking the Use Black Point Compensation box is also recommended.
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use the profile. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     If you select an ICC profile for your printer under Print with Preview in Adobe Photoshop that selection will be retained, even when later using the Photoshop Print or Print one Copy functions instead of Print with Preview . If you want to return to using the default sRGB mode after using ICC profiles, you must go back into the Print with Preview menu and select either sRGB or Same as Source as your printer profile. If the profile setting in Photoshop is not consistent with the printer driver settings, wrong colors will result.
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