ICH5R or Promise for Raid-0 ?

Greetings:
I just ordered 2 10k RPM Raptor S-ATA Drives from newegg, they should arrive shortly. I plan to configure my system with them as Raid-0 for increased performance, I just read the "Raid Setup Guide 865/875 LSR/FIS2R Rev 1.01" by Vango and it seems that my Mobo can be configured as Raid-0 with either the Intel ICH5R Controller or the promise controller.
Which one or the 2 controllers should I use? is there a performance difference with any them? any isssues, dangers or limitation with any of them?
I plan to intall my system as follows
Raid-0 (2 WD Raptor S-ATA Drives)= To boot/run windows and programs.
WD-80GB Drive (paralel) = For general storage
WD-40GB Drive (paralel) = For general storage
DVD-CdR Drive (paralel)
Which controller should I use for each drive for the best performance?
Thanks in Advance
-Andres Tinoco

I used to run Promise RAID on 875 board, but just for storage. it worked ok. My girlfried started bitching and whining about new pc so I had to give her 875, and i got myself 865pe. on 875 i installed raptors (sata 120g in raid+0 on intel chipset) It rocks!!!!! boot up speed used to be 35 sec. from push of a button till descktop load, before she put all kind of junk on her pc. On my 865 i installed two barracudas, on the same intell controller, I dont have promise chip on this board. I love the living hell out of it. Lock and Load!!!!
Couple suggestions though. Important: when you just started putting your pc together dont connect storage drives. Connect only drives you intend to use as C:
In yor case twin 'cudas. Otherwise windows might write some of the files on IDEE drive and you  will not have a complete raid. I had to reinstall windows again. Second suggestion: use windows Professional edition. Home sucks, as far as raid performance goes, lockes frezes reboots. I tried 3 versions of Professional edition 1-legit and 2-pirate copies, and finally setteled on pirate xp pro. One of the pirate versions refused to install intel raid drivers.
Third: DO NOT USE NORTON. PERIOD. I tried professional system works, it freezes the system, makes it run in 400X600, in 6 colours. It looks like norton refuses to recognize and understan concept of two hard drives in a raid array.
Good luck.

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    Quote
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