IChat AIM and Ports

I can iChat using AIM screen names with other Mac's, but I can't with my father on his PC using AIM and his AIM screen name. I have read through many posts on this topic, but have merely succeeded in thoroughly confusing myself.
I have an iMac with OSx 10.5.7. It is on a wireless network using a Netgear WGR614 router. I am using iChat version 4. My father has a Windows XP computer. He is using a D-Links DI-624 router. His version of AIM is 6.9. I have asked him to turn off "Real Time," although I'm not quite sure that he has figured out how to do that yet (he just turned 80 years old).
Can I correctly assume that because I can iChat successfully with other Mac users that my router is properly configured and that the problem lies with my father's set up?
If the problem is with my father's set up, this Apple support document suggests that with respect to configuring his DI-624 router, all he needs to do is turn off UPnP. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1787. But I can't tell if the document applies only to Mac users of iChat or to Windows users of AIM who wish to chat with Mac users of iChat. My father is in the latter catergory.
If my father must configure his DI-624 router, which ports mucst he open/forward? The ones that I have seen listed that iChat users are suppose to open, the ones that AIM users are suppose to open, both?
Finally, the DI-624 seems to permit two methods to open ports: "Firewall Rules" and "port triggering". Which should I use?
Thanks for all your help.
John

Hi
Which Netgear WGR 614 version do you have ?
Things don't really improve with this series until Version 9 (It's about the only dud for iChat Netgear there is.)
It should be doing UPnP
DOS (Or SPI) and Ping Blocking in the WAN Set up page should both be Off.
If that D-Link does UPnP then use that.
On his PC
He will need to do this Blue stuff in his Firewall
http://www.ralphjohns.co.uk/page12.html#_Service
Simplefied version
Go to Start > Control Panels.
Access the Firewall
Click the Exceptions tab
Add AIM6.exe as the method suggests (Navigate to the Program Files > AIM blah blah)
Enable UPnP as well in the List.
Your Post suggests you have Read this
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1968438
Turning Off Real Time supersedes this.
THE AIM FAQ and Pics about Real Time
If his does not do UPnP then use this page as well as the port 5190 listed he will need to enter as many as he can fro the Group 1024-5000
Unfortunately he can not add the Group and has to enter each port on one entry. (He will not get all the ports in the table - technically 4 should be enough)
9:44 PM Tuesday; June 23, 2009
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    .mac users are no different than AIM users. Same
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    I'm amazed that you actually can report that you have
    had successes with Win XP. I never have, even when
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    internet connection is "challenged" (poor wireless
    connectivity, limited (congested?) bandwidth,
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    screwin' around trying to get it to work, and I can't
    say that I blame them. It should just work without
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    panacea; I have found that setting QT Streaming
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    numbers have cured bandwidth problems that I have
    experienced (recall previous comment about challenged
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    My DL/UL is 4800/480 kbs, so I don't think that is the problem. Also, skype works flawlessly.
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    if so, do you subscribe to any of those services?
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    services or not) in the past, although I can't recall
    what they are -- I'd have to search through this
    forum to see.
    It wouldn't surprise me if charter is blocking something...I'm moving in about 10 days, and am getting a different ISP, so hopefully that fixes things. I don't have VoIP or anything like that.
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    Macbook pro 2.2 ghz   Mac OS X (10.4.10)  

  • IChat (AIM) server port change always reverts back to 5190

    Hi folks,
    I just picked up a new MacBook Pro the yesterday, have Snow Leopard installed, and am trying to get iChat to connect from behind my work firewall. I already have valid settings that work with other AIM clients:
    Server: kdc.uas.aol.com
    Port: 443
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    Humm,
    Update. In Ichat 5 the SSL item sometimes has to be preselected and when the new port enter you have to press the Enter/Return key to "set" the port.
    SSL can be turned Off afterwards if you want. (I do as the SSL server is less stable)
    8:47 PM Monday; November 30, 2009

  • Ichat/aim/adium problems

    when i sign in to ichat, aim, and adium, i stay logged in for a little while, but then it signs me off and doesn't tell me that i've been kicked off. it looks like i'm online but none of my friends can see me. there is a lag like this for a couple of minutes and then it finally tells me that the connection timed out if i try typing another message. this is very frustrating. i've tried reinstalling everything and it doesn't help. i have also tried changing the aim port to 443. does anyone have any insight?

    Hi,
    Try turning Off the SSL option in iChat  (And in Adium if it has it).
    iChat needs this manually reset if the Connection is lost to the SSL server at AIM  (It also goes down more frequently than the regular server).
    8:38 PM      Tuesday; June 7, 2011
    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
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     MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.7)
     Mac OS X (10.6.7),
    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • AIM and ichat, video not working

    I have 2 aol email accounts and aim with those. I am a little confused on some things. First I have the free aol email and instant messenger. Nothing is downloaded onto my computer, I just signed up for an email account and set it up in mail and ichat. I keep seeing things about versions of aol, well I don't have a version downloaded.
    Can this be the reason that I can not hear people when they conference to me? They hear and see me, and I see them, just no sound from them.
    A friend of mine has same computer I have, bought his 2 days before I bought mine and he said he's had no problem using his ichat. then last night he started having problems and he said the only thing he did was run permssions repair. Which I had also done. So either the permission repair caused something to change that we can no longer use it or there is something else going on.
    I have a linksys router, I have plug and play enabled, I have also tried enabling ports, there is no firewall. The friend has same setup and he NEVER went in and changed settings on his router, it just instantly worked. We also have the same ISP. No ports are being blocked by them. I have also enabled all ports to see if that would help.
    the other person I can not connect to is another story. I need to get mine up and running before I work on hers. She has a wireless pc, and dsl..I am going to check her setting, aol version, and such once mine is proven to work with someone.
    I also can not use big board games...I get a message that says I am behind a firewall (which I am not), I had also tried same thing with the ports, or it says that I have a translated network address. I am guessing that these problems are linked.
    Another person that is a pc tech suggested I setup static ip for my computer and all that mess, and we tried it and still no fix.
    Someone here suggested changing a setting in quicktime for streamline to be less than 1.5 it was set to 384 (or something) so I left it there.
    Yes, all microphones where turned on..it is built in isight.

    Well, this problem is solved, it took several different posts to get answers that worked.
    But here is what got me up and running.
    First, reason I can not connect to pc friend is because she is using the newest version on aim and she needs to be using 5.9 (tried finding who here told me that to give credit, but I can't find the info)
    I don't know why I can't connect to my mac friend. I may be able to now that I fixed somethings, but he's not been online for me to test it out. However, he was able to chat with other people and then he changed some things and now he's not. So, when he is online again I will go over his setup as well.
    Ichat would have worked with no special configurations for me, right out of the box. However, big bang board games will not let me get online and trying to get that online is where I changed things that prevented ichat from ever working.
    If you are having this problem with linksys or netgear router..just turn on plugnplay in router configurations. It is usually on be default. No need to have ports enabled.
    For you mac firewall, just have it turned on, no special ports being opened.
    I do have bonjour chat checked in settings, but I am told that this does not need to be checked. Do not have apple remote sharing checked.
    I do have 10.4.8 installed, so I did not need to go back to an older version.
    This just boiled down to I turned my firewall off and never thought that would cause me not to be able to chat.

  • TA20851 aim and ichat

    i have a macbook air, osx operating system version 10.7.3 and i've had it for a few months. recently my ichat stopped letting me vc, sceen share, or audio chat (i use my aim account on ichat). i have aim version 1.0.9. and i dont remember if i installed it myself or if it came on the computer. i tried going to the apple store and they said it was a problem with my aim and i dont know what to do...any suggestions?

    Hi
    Try logging on to AIM on port 443 rather than port 5190.
    Go to IChat in the menu bar > Preferences > Accounts.
    Log out of AIM and then use the Server Settings tab
    Set the port to 443.
    Log back in again.
    Tony

  • Having trouble connecting to AIM on iChat, adium and AIM

    hi guys,
    as the title states, i am having a **** of a time connecting to ichat through my wireless connection!
    i recently moved and have a new ISP provider (qwest). i have contacted them regarding port forwarding/firewall settings and they assured me that there is no problem with their modem. i tested this out by connecting my macbook directly to the modem, and i was able to connect to ichat.
    next, i adjusted settings on the motorola wireless router (model wr850g), turned off the firewall, port forwarding, UPnP! this didn't help at all. i contacted motorola and they assured me that it was not their product that was causing my connection problems and it was the settings on my mac.
    now, i have been able to connect to ichat when using a linksys router right out the gate, so all the firewall settings that i adjusted in the system preferences was new to me. so i followed all the directions there about sharing and firewall and performed all necessary steps, and i am still having problems.
    i am able to browse the internet, but things like azureus, ichat, adium, and aim are not working.
    before i contact apple regarding this issue, i wanted to see if there was anybody with the same type of problem. i have searched the forums the past 2 days and could not find anything regarding this problem. please help.
    the model of the qwest router is
    actiontec gt-701
    motorola wr850g
    thank you
    macbook   Mac OS X (10.4.10)  

    Hi mrayatpa,
    Both these devices have variation model numbers on this Page
    http://portforward.com/routers.htm
    It would be best if one was not doing DHCP.
    Preferably the modem should have DHCP turned off then the router should be set to ask to use a Static IP to the Modem.
    This will stop the computer being in two DHCP subnets that overlap and is probably the cause of the problem.
    As iChat uses ports above 1024 that need to be opened or allowed this needs sorting.
    Web Browsing and mail apps use ports below the 1024 mark and are not routers as such hence the reason the work no matter what the set up is (or how many subnets are involved)
    8:08 PM Saturday; July 7, 2007

  • AIM and iCHAT  HELP!!!

    Just installed AIM on a DELL with Vista, trying to chat with a MacBook. AIM to iCHAT should work, right? But, iCHAT keeps screwing up and saying there's a communication error.

    For the last several days, I haven't been able to log onto my screen name. I have a mac book pro and have kept my aim screen name and used it for my ichat as well. I have done this successfully for the last few months.
    But now every time I attempt to log on to my ichat or aim I receive the same error message. "You have attempted to log in too often in a short period of time. Wait a few minutes before trying to login again." I waited about 10 minutes before attempting to log into ichat again and the same error message came up. I waited an hour and then attempted to log onto aim and the same error message appeared. I then decided to wait a day and try on a different computer and the same error message appeared when I attempted to log into my aim screen name on the mac and the dell computers.
    However, I am able to log onto both ichat and aim using my friend's screen name. Therefore, it appears as though the problem is with my screen name and not with the computers connection or with aim as a whole. I really need to use the screen name as I have had it for over ten years and don't want to change it at this stage. Please help me fix this problem as I seem to have attempted everything.

  • Audio & Videochat between iChat 4 and AIM 6.1. doen't work: Out of time

    Date/Time: 2007-12-15 19:52:11.782 +0100
    OS Version: 10.5.1 (Build 9B18)
    Report Version: 4
    iChat Connection Log:
    2007-12-15 19:51:56 +0100: AVChat started with ID 3786254818.
    2007-12-15 19:51:56 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
    2007-12-15 19:51:56 +0100: 0x10f02250: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
    2007-12-15 19:51:59 +0100: 0x10f02250: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
    2007-12-15 19:51:59 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
    2007-12-15 19:52:09 +0100: 0x10f02250: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
    2007-12-15 19:52:09 +0100: 0x10f02250: Error -8 (Did not receive a response from 0x10f02250.)
    2007-12-15 19:52:09 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
    2007-12-15 19:52:09 +0100: [email protected]: Error -8 (Did not receive a response from 0x10f02250.)
    Video Conference Error Report:
    Video Conference Support Report:
    Video Conference User Report:
    0.000000 @:0 type=5 (00000000/16402)
    [Local SIP port]
    0.000035 @:0 type=5 (00000000/16402)
    [Local SIP port]
    0.520890 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 0 bytes (0 entries).
    5.151496 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 80 bytes (2 entries).
    40.979496 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 0 bytes (0 entries).
    63.830880 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 0 bytes (0 entries).
    350.249885 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 0 bytes (0 entries).
    353.468607 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 80 bytes (2 entries).
    Message was edited by: Pooly

    Thanks a lot for your support, I changed the settings but it doesn't work again.
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    Date/Time: 2007-12-15 20:09:37.663 +0100
    OS Version: 10.5.1 (Build 9B18)
    Report Version: 4
    iChat Connection Log:
    2007-12-15 20:09:20 +0100: AVChat started with ID 3385539189.
    2007-12-15 20:09:20 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
    2007-12-15 20:09:21 +0100: 0xf1afb50: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
    2007-12-15 20:09:23 +0100: 0xf1afb50: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
    2007-12-15 20:09:23 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
    2007-12-15 20:09:34 +0100: 0xf1afb50: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
    2007-12-15 20:09:34 +0100: 0xf1afb50: Error -8 (Did not receive a response from 0xf1afb50.)
    2007-12-15 20:09:34 +0100: [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
    2007-12-15 20:09:34 +0100: [email protected]: Error -8 (Did not receive a response from 0xf1afb50.)
    Video Conference Error Report:
    Video Conference Support Report:
    Video Conference User Report:
    0.000000 @:0 type=5 (00000000/16402)
    [Local SIP port]
    0.000019 @:0 type=5 (00000000/16402)
    [Local SIP port]
    0.820401 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 0 bytes (0 entries).
    3.581413 @Video Conference/VideoConferenceMultiController.m:1476 type=5 (00000000/0)
    [IP And Port Data With Caller IP And Port Data: Obtained 160 bytes of local IP and port data (4 entries). Remote data was 80 bytes (2 entries).
    Message was edited by: Pooly

  • IChat and .Mac account and AIM and .Mac account...

    Hello.
    Well I'm using iChat or Adium with my .Mac account, for text chat only (sometimes for video or audio but it's not my wish for this).
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    Hi Sebastien,
    This Sametime ?
    I have not heard of this and that web site does not seem to indicate it is an AIM client even though the info you posted says that it.
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    There is a link from the Apple .mac list to the AIM name list but this might not be accessible to a third party app like this.
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