IChat AIM Problems withbanned users.

I was arbitrarily banned by an AIM room owner. I made a new AIM account, but iChat is saying that I'm banned, regardless of the user name / screen name. I am able to enter the rooms with AIM Instant Messanger, but not with iChat. Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks Ralph, but that's not it at all. I deleted everything to do with iChat, including the application itself. I also deleted ALL of my keychain passwords from AIM, as well as the signing certificate. Nothing has worked for me. I suspect there is another link somewhere in the system that has attached itself to iChat 4. Last night I even did a complete reinstall of OS X 10.5, then updated it 10.5.1. Time machine was on though. It still doesn't work. The Ban was lifted yesterday, and I had no problem getting into any of the chatrooms with AOL Instant Messenger. So something's up with iChat 4, at least on my system anyway. I could not find the file named: com.apple.ichat.aim.plist however. To better explain what happened, it goes like this. I had one screen name that was banned from an aim chat room. With iChat 4, none of my other screen names will work. They all say that I have been kicked out, and cannot rejoin. However, as I said earlier, AIM Messenger works just fine now. It's very strange, and I can only assume that something is wrong with another unknown file that is linked to iChat 4. Fortunately, the first time I deleted all the iChat files, it allowed me into the rooms, but only for a few seconds. Then an error dialog came up and said: your encryption link with "**** lol [email protected]" has been damaged, or broken, or something like that. So I assumed that that user was the hacker that broke my iChat. I have to believe at this time that something is wrong somewhere else in the system files that are linked to iChat 4. I could be wrong, but I've tried just about everything, except erasing my laptop drive, and reinstalling everything anew. So, I dunno?
Thanks.

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Has the PC end set up as per instructions? What version of AIM has PC end got?
http://ralphjohns.co.uk/page12.html#_Service
Have you done the following?
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Restart iChat
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iChat has an Idle coloured blob for Buddies that are Available but have not touched anything on their keyboard for a while.
Other client offer the chance to distinguish between Away and Idle-Away buddies as well.
iChat can not do this last option even though it is part of the AIM Protocols (it's ignored rather than not implemented on the iChat end) But as it is part and parcel so to speak your Buddies with clients that can tell see you as not Idle if you just have the Away message up.
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Hi,
Try turning Off the SSL option in iChat (And in Adium if it has it).
iChat needs this manually reset if the Connection is lost to the SSL server at AIM (It also goes down more frequently than the regular server).
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I've got iChat 4 and it usually works just fine for me with my AIM account but for some reason today every time i try and log in it first appears like it's logged in successfully but doesn't show any buddies online when they are and then a few seconds later it starts connecting & disconnecting over and over until i get a iChat Connection Alert saying:
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At this stage there seems to be three levels of this problem.
1) You have Logged in Too many times is normally solved by deleting com.apple.iChat.AIM.plist and restarting iChat
2) The extreme is to have no displayed Buddy List despite looking like you are logged in. This require ichat to be Quit - Activity Monitor used to Force Quit iChatAgent as it does not quit with iChat - The deletion of both com.apple.iChat.AIM.plist and com.apple.iChatAgent.plist
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Hi
Which Netgear WGR 614 version do you have ?
Things don't really improve with this series until Version 9 (It's about the only dud for iChat Netgear there is.)
It should be doing UPnP
DOS (Or SPI) and Ping Blocking in the WAN Set up page should both be Off.
If that D-Link does UPnP then use that.
On his PC
He will need to do this Blue stuff in his Firewall
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Simplefied version
Go to Start > Control Panels.
Access the Firewall
Click the Exceptions tab
Add AIM6.exe as the method suggests (Navigate to the Program Files > AIM blah blah)
Enable UPnP as well in the List.
Your Post suggests you have Read this
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1968438
Turning Off Real Time supersedes this.
THE AIM FAQ and Pics about Real Time
If his does not do UPnP then use this page as well as the port 5190 listed he will need to enter as many as he can fro the Group 1024-5000
Unfortunately he can not add the Group and has to enter each port on one entry. (He will not get all the ports in the table - technically 4 should be enough)
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Example pic 3 on this page. This shows this device as getting it own contact IP address by DHCP (like from your ISP). Further down the page in the pic it shows the device is also acting as a DHCP server to the local net.
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Another iChat AIM....

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Is AIM currently compatible with iChat or does it need the AIM client at both ends? Ralph's faq list is dated 2005
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If using Trillian do we all need usernames for their service (Trillian Astra?) or are the AIM ones still useable?
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Hi,
The info in the Users Tip have not changed in all that time.
Some things in the info do apply to earlier AIM Versions such as AIM 5.9
I have AIM 7. something on a BootCamp Partition and can Video from there to my iChat 4 computer (iChat 4.0.9)
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The Trillian Site has several versions for Windows
The one "on Sale" is the Pro version of 3.2
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How do I reinstall iChat, how do PC users video iChat with me, and should I just use skype?

1. I deleted iChat awhile ago by mistake. I searched ichat in Macintosh HD, and the only result was iChat the application file, but its icon is a faded out IWeb icon. When I click on it, it just bounces on my dock, until it disappears and an error message pops up stating it quit unexpectedly. I tried dragging the result to my desktop then redragging it into my Applications folder, but the same thing still happens (faded out iWeb icon instead of iChat icon, bounces, quits, error message). I also tried installing the iChat AV (forgot which version) and iChat Update 1.0 Universal, both of which said I had to have 10.4. I have 10.5.8. Also, if this makes any difference, the current faded out iChat in my Applications folder says its version 4.0.9. I do not have my reinstall CD, and do not want to call support and have them send me one. Considering I bought my macbook in late 2008, and my warranty is up, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't help me anyways. I also do not know of anyone who has a mac so the sharing option can be crossed offed. Is there a downloadable version of iChat for 10.5. users?
2. If I somehow managed to reinstall a working iChat, how would PC users connect to me and vide chat?
3. Should I just use skype? Would i have to download anything? Is skype video chat free? What are the differences between iChat and skype, and which one is better?
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Hi,
Reinstall Instructions
Be SURE to Download (Manually) and Install the COMBO version of the last Update to the OS you did as iChat will need to be Updated (Software Update will think it is already done and you need to Fool it)
Re 2).
In theory it is just a question oif you using a valid AIM name in iChat
This could be one registered with AIM or one from @mac.com or MobileMe if paid for or a current trial.
In Practice it can need a bit of tweaking at both ends
They Need to allow the AIM App through the Windows firewall as an Exception (AS with any Non Microsoft app)
They may also need to turn off the "Real Time" option that does not work to iChat and effects A/V chats as well. (It is Sending as you type). It will be in one of the Menus of their Budy List.
Post back for more if you get stuck.
Re 3)
Skype does offer free Video Chat and some people resort to it when iChat to AIM does not work.
It is free (At present - and you only pay for the Connection to and from real phones)
Skype was bought by Microsoft within the last week and things may change at some point in the future.
iChat has better Video
Audio depends on the capabilities of your Mac and their PC but is probably about equal.
Connection methods differ and iChat's Video and Audio Chats are technically more secure (you can in fact log out of the Buddy List as they adre Peer-to-Peer where as Skype uses a little bit of everyone's bandwidth (Between 40 and 100 other End Users)
Other options are here
Video options are from 8 onwards
Mebeam is now called Koowy. (Video Chatting in a Web Browser using Flash)
NOTES;
Google Do a Plug-in for Intels to allow you to use their Web Mail Page Chat Option
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In there there are several options.
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Disable any Port Forwarding or Port Triggering. DO not use the DMZ.
Save settings. (you should still have Web browsing and Mail abilities).
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Enable UPnP.
Save Settings.
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You can limit the "Hops" to the number of devices the computer is from the Linksys (1 ?) to make it more secure.
On the main set up page you could limit the the DHCP range to the number of computers you have to prevent outside connections.
The ports you describe so far are only the TExt chatting and file sending ports
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IChat, typical issue regarding users not showing up

I have two AIM accounts; I have one for Home/Friends etc and one for Work Friends & Co-workers to contact me at.
I put both AIM Names on either buddy list, recently they just stopped showing up on each others list on the same Mac running 10.5.8 and iChat 4
I did all the remove com.apple.ichat.aim or whatever plist files but it reverts to doing that ever so randomly.
it even happened under a different mac running snow leopard and that version of iChat. though that one seems to be abit more stable.
is there a fix or anything for it? atleast something solid..this is the first it has happened to me, just all of a sudden.....
thanks.

Hi,
The above pic is what the Messages pane shows when the View Menu > Messages item is changed to Text.
It will also show the Background Pic if you drag a Pic to the Chat window itself (or even to that white Space show in the pic)
There can be several reasons why a Buddy will not appear in the List
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2) You have them "Blocked" or Not "Allowed" in the Accounts option in that pic then the Security tab.
3) The same thing happens if they Block or use Allow Buddy list only or Allow Specific People and don't add you to the List involved (either the Buddy list of the Allow Specific People list)
4) Variations on misspelling the Screen Name including:-
a) Adding and AIM Name with @aim.com at the end.
b) Adding an @Mac.com name as an AIM Name (And not including the @mac.com bit)
c) Adding a MobileMe name as and AIM type (and not adding the @me.com bit)
5) In ichat 4 and 5 only setting a Buddy list to Invisible. In iChat 5 this can be done to one Buddy List at a time.
6) If talking about your own Screen Names showing in two places it could be a Buddy List is Not allowing Multiple Logins and one is being Logged out as the other signs in. (It has been some while since iChat allowed you to add your own Screen Name to your own Buddy list).
7) Messing in another Mac User Account using the same iChat Info to Test Parental Controls can also make Buddies Disappear you you do not set the Parental Controls to Allow iChat before changing Mac User Accounts (it marks all none Allowed Buddies as Blocked which is a flag at the AIM server and will be seen that way in the main Mac User Account as in 2) above)
Notes:
Your Screen Names and Passwords are held in the Keychain and are called back from there if you delete the .plists (well in this case com.apple.ichat.AIM.plist)
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